This is such blatant fanboyism that I am suspicious that this new member is rather trollicious.

For future reference. Sasuke sucks, and if Karma were part of the Narutoverse he would be raped to death by a thousand infested buttmonkeys.

 

My post was about the kage, not the Konoha 11. I might have thought that was obvious given I quoted a statement saying "why have none of the kage died yet?".

Also, I'd say it is easier to not die than kill someone. Even is your enemy is shooting laser guided missles at you, that doesn't stop you from hiding under mountains. It's not like the mage haven't taken any damage, simply that the damage hasn't been fatal because they are just that good. Keep in mind these are supposed to be the best shinobi each major world power has to offer. Even with Madara's had no jutsu, it seems to me more an aspect of their insane skill as shinobi that they are still alive.

 

Even if WD already addressed your blatant fanboyism, I will as well. The Konoha 11 would destroy Sasuke in a fight, and here's why.

TEAMWORK.

He can't do fuck-all when Shikamaru has him trapped in his shadow, and Ino takes over his body, then allowing Chouji to turn him into a fucking stain on the ground.

Neji shuts down his chakra, allowing Lee to turn him into a punching bag and Tenten to turn him into a target. Before you say "Oh, but Sasuke could just brute force his chakra like Naruto did", no, actually, he couldn't. A) Naruto has loads more chakra than Sasuke will ever have, and B) Naruto has this cool thing called the Kyuubi that gives him a healing factor.

Hinata also shuts down his chakra, allowing Kiba to, again, turn him into a punching bag. And, hell, even if he could brute force his chakra out without rupturing the tenketsu, Shino can use his kikaichu to drain all of Sasuke's chakra in a matter of seconds.

Sai's paint thing has no limits, as far as we know. He draws something, it comes to life. There's a whole load of things he could do with that, and someone far more creative than I could go into details.

Sakura could also turn him into a punching bag, if she'd just get over her little crush on him. Hell, she could bury him up to his neck in dirt with one decent punch.

Also, there's the little fact that every one of the teams probably has some semblance of teamwork with each other, since they were all in Konoha for 2.5 years before Naruto got back, they probably did some training to get ready for the war, and all of this goes without mentioning their sensei who aren't dead and are combat-capable.

 

Unfortunately I'd have to agree with Izanagi with the fact that Sasuke would wipe the floor with the Konoha 11. This is due to the fact that you are using normal-person logic, and not Kishimoto-logic. Sasuke has been put up as pretty much the main character alongside Naruto. Add to that the extensive Uchiha-worship that Kishi has, and you have someone who will never, ever ever be taken down by anything less than his counterpart. Maybe he'll get smacked around for a bit, maybe he'll get by by the skin of his teeth, but one way or another, he's going to win to see that final battle. It's not a happy thought, but it's the truth.

 

It has nothing to do with Sasuke's relevance to the storyline. He's been shown to be in the high tier of ninja in the series on panel.

He would troll the shit out of the other rookies.

 

Sooo.. what was that Will of Fire thing again? New generations something something then the last?

 

'Tis standard Shonen Fighting Series logic. Numbers and teamwork mean nothing; the only way to win is to have a higher power level.

Which is a shame, because one of the things that Naruto so interesting early on was the way it didn't follow power levels so slavishly. Winding back to the Wave Arc again, a pair of genin fresh out of the Academy managed to get the upper hand on a jonin through a combination a good tactics, teamwork, and a bit of luck. I thought that was pretty cool, and wish the manga still worked that way.

 

If only. Sasuke just needs to let go of his hate its past retarded at this point . :

You I can totally see Tobi doing that. After he and his six path gets owned by who or whatever he uses it to summon Madara.

Naruto and Sasuke make nice and fight Madara. Then Madara summons the moon and crashes it into earth destroying it. :awesome

 

Actually, no. I doubt this battle is going to happen to begin with, but if it does it will end in a Sasuke victory. Nobody is going to stop him aside from Naruto himself. The story won't allow it. You can argue back and forth about the power of teamwork all day (fat lot of good that's doing the five Kage at the moment btw), but a theoretical is meaningless to what will happen in the actual manga.

 

In all fairness, Sasuke could probably get the drop on and utterly annihilate the other rookies with his machine-gun Amaterasu. They really have no defence against that sort of firepower.

Naruto is fast enough to avoid it, and with a clone in Sage Mode he could almost preternaturally sense incoming attacks, even ones that move as fast as Amaterasu. And in Kyuubi Chakra Mode or Bijuu Mode he can sense dark emotions, so Sasuke would be broadcasting his intentions loudly the whole time, giving Naruto a large advantage. So, Naruto is still more than a match for Sasuke, but none of the other rookies are, even with teamwork.

 

You've lost your marbles mate. None of that is plausible. They have to get through Susano'o, avoid eye contact, and dodge the Amaterasu arrows, nevermind his Raiton jutsu that render close range combat nigh impossible for ninja of the Rookie's caliber. They're lowly Chuunin-level ninja. Against pre-mangekyou Sasuke, they've got a shot, but now?

Puh-lease.

 

Bahahah what Naruto have you been reading for the past few months?


Now and again, I imagine myself starting to follow Naruto from the time-skip, not having read Part 1, Since the first few chapters/episodes and sort of like an introduction, it could work. Only it'd suck. I would never follow Naruto without Part 1. Part 1 was interesting. Part 1 was innovative. Now the only reason I keep reading is a combination of morbid curiocity and me not being able to give up on all the hours I've wasted reading/watching/playing Naruto. I don't think I'd be able to stop now.

 

Did you actually read the post you quoted, Republic? Because if your post is supposed to be some kind of response to mine, it doesn't make any sense. At all. Your "response" is a wonderful little piece of anti-logic, leaving every single person who reads it just a little less capable of forming coherent thoughts.

 

I'm pretty sure that Kabuto already had the vast majority of the Edo army formed and ready to summon before he approached Tobi about the alliance.

I'm not so sure. From the way the chapter has Madara responding to Oonoki and Tsunade it seems like Madara had this perfect Susanoo in his glory days. I assume that Madara went out of his way to capture the Kyuubi because Hashirama also had the ability to subdue bijuu and may have had some himself.

 

Redshell Naruto's healing ability is from being a Senju/Uzumaki not the Kyuubi.

 

This is one of the things that I now find very frustrating. Naruto has always been said to have enormous chakra and we've seen the incredible healing factor, but how much of this is because he's the Kyuubi's jinchuuriki and how much is because he's from an exceptional clan?

I really wish Kishimoto would be more blunt about these things.

 

To clarify - I was talking about Edos that Tobi used as his Six Paths.

 

Because the Kyuubi can't speed things up at all, right? I mean, after all, it's not this deity-level being that's pure chakra.

Also, I really do not care if his healing factor comes from the fact that he's descended from the Rikkudo Sennin. Nobody heals that fast, even with an increased healing factor. What was it, a matter of seconds after he jabbed that kunai into his hand in part 1? Yeah, sure, being from Uzumaki/Senju probably does give him something, but you're just going to sit there and tell me that the Kyuubi isn't making his healing factor work overtime? Try again. This goes without saying that we're not even really sure about the Senju, here. The only evidence to that effect is that Mito married into the Senju clan, and there's nothing that says that Kushina is Mito's daughter, just a distant relative.

The only other character that I'm aware of who has a comparable healing factor is Wolverine, and at least he feels pain when he's regenerating something.

 

This. It wasn't up till then that I got hooked, from then all the way to the end of the Chuunin Exams was a fantastic spree of awesome and was probably Kishi's finest work imo.

 

I think it's pretty clear that Kushina is not Mito's daughter, given that Mito is Tsunade's grandmother and Tsunade is older than Kushina would be. If I were writing a backstory for Kushina, however, I would have them closely related. Would make sense.

Concerning Naruto's healing factor:

Karen is said to be an Uzumaki and she was able to heal not herself, but Sasuke after Killer Bee turned him into a pincushion. Her healing abilities might be the best in the series when it comes to straight regeneration. My question, then, is does Naruto share this sort of amazing regenerative ability or is it simply because he's a jinchuuriki?

Consider also that when Killer Bee first goes into his shroud mode his skin starts to peel off a-la 4 tail Naruto, yet when we see him after the fight he's fine. Seems that any jinchuuriki has at least some accelerated healing factor.