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Tengen Toppa Gurren Laggan

Discussion in 'Books and Anime Discussion' started by Jake96er, Apr 9, 2012.

  1. Jake96er

    Jake96er First Year

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    After this thread, I proceeded to rewatch the last four episodes of TTGL, and was glad I did so :p This anime is too good.
     
  3. Jarik

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    Loved TTGL. Don't think I'd go as far as to say it was one of my favorite, but it certainly stood out as a very unique and enjoyable anime to watch.

    I loved the way it'd be utterly ridiculous and uplifting in most parts, and yet have well developed, dark and sad themes in others. It almost became a crack parody anime, and yet you still took it seriously as the plot developed.
     
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    I really fucking enjoyed it. And not even "as an anime"-- I legitimately thought it was good compared to western shit.

    Given that the only other anime I can say that about is Cowboy Bebop, I think that says everything I need to.
     
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    So I watched it. The only spoiler that I knew about this series was that power levels will go up to ridiculous level after someone gave this series as Type 5 civilization example on wikipedia. But nothing more.

    At first I was like - well that's funny series. Then after 8th episode I was like - once again you took me by surprise Japan. But around the half of the series I was like - this story is getting really cool. By the end I was like - I can't take so much awesomeness at one time. And after ending I was like - all things considering that was still rather depressing.

    Also, somehow I didn't notice who did this series till I watched the last ending and I was like - that explains everything about this series.

    EDIT: Saw movie version of final battle on YT. Didn't think it could be done even more awesome, but it was.
     
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    Speaking of the movie, what exactly is it? Is it just the last few episodes condensed into a movie, or what? The ending was depressing, yes, but I've seen entire anime that are depressing (Evangelion comes to mind). Hell, the original ending for Evangelion is about the most depressing thing I've ever seen.

    And there's a rumor that he created the movie because he received so many death threats.

    But I digress. As has been stated many times before, Gurren Lagann is awesome. It's like... condensed awesome. It is the product of combining No More Heroes with Branston Pickle (if anyone gets this joke, I salute you).
     
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    There are two Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann movies, creatively titled TTGL: Gurren-hen and TTGL: Lagann-hen. They basically summarize the two main parts of the series and don't actually change enough to really warrant a viewing. And no, the ending to Lagann-hen is completely identical to the end of the series outside of the final battle being slightly more complicated (much to my chagrin; I didn't like the actual ending, felt like a diabolus ex machina so GAINAX could keep their reputation for absolutely never having a happy ending.)
     
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    I agree with solomon. The TTGL movies were okay, but didn't break enough new grounds.

    While I liked the large number of Tengen Toppa machines in the movie version, I enjoyed the original version's final battle scenes, especially those heroic sacrifices, far more.
     
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    Evangelion is like a pinnacle of every depressing anime (and not only) created. Which makes sense since its creator had a depression for few years before he started working on it. But the fact that it was more than a decade ago makes me wonder if Rebuild will have a happy ending. Or what GAINAX takes for happy ending as showed in TTGL.
     
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    When I saw Gainax was involved in TTGL it made sense why the ending of TTGL was the way it was.. but imo the second half of the anime was just lacking in respect to the pure awesomeness of the first half.
     
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    The TV series? That ending is the exact opposite of depressing. The movie on the other hand, End of Evangelion, THAT is depressing.
     
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    You sure son?

    The ending of the TV series is everyone reduced to primordial soup, as I recall, and nothing else happens afterwards.

    The ending of the movie is Asuka and Shinji on the beach, presumably the new Adam and Eve.

    They're both depressing, one is just less-so than the other.
     
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    The TV ending just shows all the characters surrounding Shinji, clapping and saying "Congratulations!" because he's supposedly figured out how not to be a dysfunctional mess of depression anymore. No soup involved. Or logic, plot-wise. We go from Shinji and Misato discussing Kaworu on a beach at the end of Ep. 24 to something completely different for the last two. Ostensibly it's supposed to be a portion of Instrumentality, stuffed inside the craziness we see in EoE. Either that or something else entirely.

    End of Eva is the "true" ending, and yeah, that shit's depressing.

    Haven't seen Gurren Lagann yet, but it's on my list. Right now I'm watching Birdy the Mighty: Decode and Vision of Escaflowne.

    EDIT: Oh, and the "Shinji and Asuka are the new Adam and Eve" thing is false. Rei and Yui both said that others could return, and they likely will -- it's a sure bet that an existence as a puddle of orange gloop wouldn't exactly be ideal for most people. They're not going to be alone on that beach for long. Check this site out, particularly this list of Eva misconceptions. It's very enlightening.
     
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    This is what I get for not having watched Eva for 3 years. (God, has it really been that long?)

    I used to go to evageeks all the time, but I haven't, lately. Mostly because I haven't been watching a whole lot of anime, of late. The big one for me at the moment is The Big O, which I have yet to start but caught bits and pieces of as a kid when they aired it on Toonami.
     
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    You can still argue that they are, but only in a way that they're first man and woman to return. As for the rest misconceptions I wasn't even aware of most of these wrong theories (especially amusing was about the Asuka-Rei-Misato amalgamation, though I'd like to see how this "ideal" woman for Shinji would really look like and behave).

    Back to TTGL. There is not much I'd change in the series (maybe only Nia's fate, but it's a very small change), but I still looked at its fics to see if maybe someone else had some interesting ideas about how to make it different. Unsurprisingly, I didn't find anything that could be described as at least decent fic, though I didn't search for it very hard.
     
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    The only TTGL fics I've ever read:

    Paper Airplane
    Their fairytale was not a fairytale. — SimonNia
    Romance/Drama - One-shot

    Sound of Pulling Heaven Down
    What if Simon and Nia hadn't met before her transformation? Now, three years following the destruction of Earth, they find each other at last...but is it too late? AU, Simon/Nia. Contains UST, coarse language, mature themes, and haphazard space battles.
    Romance/Sci-Fi - 18 Chapters - WiP

    ...And I've only just noticed they're both romances. :eek:
     
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    Ahem...

    In Evangelion, the angels have a core referred to as an "S2 Organ" which is the source of their immense power.

    S2 means Super Solenoid, just like N2 bombs are Non-Nuclear and the collar on Pen-Pen says Pen2.

    Solenoid = Spiral = Angels and the Mass Production Evas run on "Spiral Power". How's that for an amusing connection between NGE and Gurren Laggan?

    Yeah. The end of the TV series was done that way because they'd run out of money and couldn't animate the massive fight scenes you see in End of Evangelion.

    The TV end is basically another glimpse of what's happening in the characters' heads during Instrumentality.

    For anyone who has seen Evangelion and doesn't understand it, or did understand it and is just interested in listening to some thought-provoking discussion on Eva, you should visit Revolution of Evangelion, and (especially!) the associated You Tube channel.