Well, yeah, but we've already seen in this show that characters rarely make the cool, logical decisions, lol. Especially in that moment, when his son just came across him having killed Shane, I can actually understand his distraction.

Maybe he didn't think it would happen that fast. Maybe the writers just contrived a situation where Carl would have to shoot Shane.

Honestly, if that's not what the CDC guy told him, I don't know what the hell it could be.

Anyway, nobody else thought the cow thing was weird? All disemboweled but still mooing?

 

Zombie cow. Duh.

(IT MAKES NO PERFECT SENSE).

 

In the comics, Shane doesn't come back alive straight away. They bury him and when Rick finds out they come back to life whenever you die, he comes back to see him slowly clawing his way back to the surface and puts a bullet into him.

One of the best scenes in the comics, hands down.

 

Yeah, it's got that whole...

'I kinda think you'd be just fine with me clawing under the earth, but that just don't sit right with me... BLAM!'

Powerful stuff.

 

Good season finale, lots of the old ultraviolence.

Rick lays down the law: "This isn't a democracy." Damn straight.

And season 3: Prison.

Holing up in a prison is actually a very good idea in a zombie apocalypse. Close to a fortress as you can find, short of a presidential bunker or Fallout-type vault space.

NORAD also comes to mind as a good spot to go to ground. Saw a special on TV about it one time. Big-ass vault doors, a reservoir, in a mountain hardened against nuclear attack.

 

Why didn't they just run away in the first place when they saw so many?

 

Umm.. Okay. The katana wielding, cloak wearing, walker pet having, fucker is a little over the top.

I get the katana, I suppose. If someone had martial arts training, I could understand. It takes more force to cut someones head of than to smash their skulls, so a baseball bat or a pipe would be more effective, but it is fast and if it was all that was handy, I wouldn't complain.

The zombie thing is really implausible though. Say you do take the time to take off their limbs and jawbone, would they really just follow you around like pets. I'm assuming fucking not. Jawbone or not they would do every thing possible to knaw on you. And, why? Why and the fuck would you want a couple of walkers on a leash?

The thing that really pisses me off, though, is the cloak. Name the most useless, most couter productive, stupidest piece of clothing you could wear in a zombie apocalypse. A cloak. It would hinder movement and vision. The two things most vital in a zombie fucking apocalypse.

Someone that stupid/crazy should have been dead by now.

 

I thought more about why they didn't just drive over the zombies. The whole battle scene was stupid the way it was done. But it's a general problem of the TV show and comic. If you know they are attracted by noise why not attract them and kill them in groups like they did in the barn. If the show would use common sense but there's almost none.

I know the comic and though I like its atmosphere its shallow and throw away plot can get quite annoying. It's a never ending repeating formula which was a success in the beginning so the writer continues it forever more only with new background settings and new characters after each culling. I hoped the TV show could be something more but the way it works now I don't expect it.

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It's a character from the comics which was introduced the same way.

 

In the comic I think it was explained that her having the zombies on a leash helped to keep other zombies away, I took it as similar to how Rick covered himself in zombie guts to hide his smell.

But I agree the character is over the top she's easily my least favourite character.

 

I am just curious, is everyone this stupid in the comic too?

If you are driving an RV through a herd of zombies, keep the door FUCKING CLOSED.

Once the people you are trying to rescue are on the top, DRIVE THE FUCK AWAY. Do not go to the said door so that zombies can eat you.

Oh and the "This isn't a democracy." was bad-ass.

 

No, everyone is not this stupid. That RV shit would never have happened in the comics. In the comics, you get more of a sense that things are beyond hopeless, too, which justifies more of the characters' actions - such as suicide. Maybe its just the medium transition.

Also,

 

Also, writing for Rick sucks.

I KNOW that he was right in killing Shane but the way he explained it to Lori I got half-convinced he should be burned as a demon. All the time I was waiting for him to say "... and then he pulled a gun on me." But he is like, "Oooooh, I killed him and I LOVED IT!!!!".

When he explained it to the group, he should have been like, "He tried to kill me, so I did him instead. You know? Self-defence?" But he explained how Shane was dangerous to the group (which considering Rick and the group's ideals is not enough reason to kill Shane, Randall was dangerous too) as far as I remember he mentioned Shane setting up the entire thing only in brief and towards the end. This is a lame attempt at unnecessarily creating drama.

And I really don't understand Lori. She has ONE job. Control Carl. But he has escaped twice, once he caused the death of Dale and the second time he brought a horde of zombies on the farm killing 3 people, destroying their safe-home and what-not. I get it that he killed Shane and saved Rick but if he never went there Rick would not have taken his eyes of Shane and would have disposed him off in a silent way letting the zombies pass.

Then she asks Rick to "defend" his family from Shane. Then she goes to Shane and has a trip down the memory lane of their time together. If I did not know better I would have thought she was setting them up to kill each other and then jump on T-Dog or maybe Daryl.

 

Goddamnit, as much as I hate Rick that picture is awesome. And I just changed my avatar too

BTW just started the comics. And Rick is just hilarious. "I'll let you stay here until this stuff blows over." It's odd when you know how dead wrong a character can be.

 

I only just got around to watching the episode, so, yeah. All in all, it was a decent episode, and actually provided some good old violence in a season that was largely about the drama.

Onto my gripes about it.

Lori... Lori basically just solidified her position as a dumb cunt, if she hadn't already. At first, she seemed fine with the idea of Rick killing Shane. Then, he said that Carl was the one who put down the walker wearing Shane's skin. Suddenly, it's a big deal, enough that she refuses to let him explain any further.

Carol. Carol is useless, as evidenced by the fact that she decided to pick up a stick to defend herself against a bunch of walkers. Okay, that's understandable, she doesn't carry a gun or know how to use it, but she also unnecessarily creates drama for the group every single time she opens her mouth. "He shouldn't have kept that from us." Bullshit he shouldn't have. He didn't know for sure, and until he did, there was no use in telling everyone, because that would create unneeded tension in the group. Everyone would have everyone else in their crosshairs. Furthermore, that would just give Shane an excuse to kill Rick. "We're all carriers, ain't we? He just turned faster than the rest of us." And another thing, Carol saying that Daryl is basically Rick's thug. Do you know why she sees things like that? Because Rick trusts Daryl to do the shit nobody else wants to do, or go do something like look for firewood and come back.

Maggie being stupid and then getting shot down by Herschel was good, in my opinion. It shows that the man has come to accept reality, which I can respect, and at least he's not falling apart because his farm is overrun.

As far as the Ricktatorship goes, I think it's been a long time coming. They look to him for guidance, but as soon as he fucks up, they can do better. In my opinion, he should've challenged that way of thinking a long time ago the way he did.

As far as Katana + Cloak girl, I don't have the second hardback of the graphic novel, so I have no idea who she is, but yeah, I agree with the general consensus, a cloak is fucking retarded. You should never wear loose clothes like that in a zombies situation. It'll get snagged on something or, better yet, a zombie will grab it while you're running away and choke you with it while you struggle to get free. A katana, on the other hand, is less so, even if the damn thing only has one edge and you've gotta swing it just right to get a decapitation like she did. Again, as people have said, she probably keeps the walkers for the same reason that Rick and Glen covered themselves in walker blood and guts, so they can't smell them.

On the subject of Andrea, she swooped in and saved the day, only to be left behind. I liked that as a plot element, because it showed that the group was capable of leaving someone if push came to shove. She escaped into the woods, and showed herself resourceful enough to use the butt of the gun as a club (among other things) to kill walkers, although why she was wasting time (and ammo) to shoot them was beyond me. If you have 3 left in one magazine and a handful in your pocket, you're going to want to conserve ammo. Kill only those who are directly in the way between you and your destination, even if you have to go around some. It's more intelligent, but, as was said, not everybody on this show makes the best decision.

TL;DR: The show's women are stupid.

 

This seems to make sense at first, then you think about all the times that there are only two group members together or when that kid wanted to kill herself and the possible consequences. What if someone was hurt, I mean look how fast Shane turned. Not to mention that it's just not for him to fucking keep to himself when it threatened the lives of everyone in the group. And in the post-zombie world, Jenner's word was perhaps the closest thing to a sure thing there is.

Also, on the Ricktatorship, he was a victim of his own indecisiveness. Sometimes he would declare everything a democracy and get people to vote -when he wanted some way out of a situation he knew damn well he had to deal with- and others he would make a blanket decision for everyone, like when he spared Randall -twice- when he knew damn well he should have done it. So when it suited him he switched between dictator and Mr. Democracy, so he brought it on himself. It's not like people were pounding on his door begging for the right to vote.

And yes, every single woman on the show is worthless apart from Andrea, and apparently she's gone too.

 

Season 3 Premiers Sunday, October 14th - Season Preview

 

Rick turned out to be way more bad-ass than I was expecting.

 

I see someone has been reading the Zombie Survival Guide xD.

Also, I did not just see a zombified Darryl. I refuse to even consider it. It was some random mook.

 

... I refuse to re-watch the video now just because I fear I'll see that too. Having not read the comics, I noticed Hershall just stopped showing up around the 2 minute mark so I assumed when they ran into the Walkers in the prison that, yeah...

Please don't make Darryl a walker.