Hmm, no, I sort of agree with Para. I think that a judge lynch puts too much of the onus on one man's anus.

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ebwop: a girl on skype yelled at me, so assume that I haven't said anything but that I agree with para.

 

What are you talking about, Lungs? They wouldn't be doing anything besides picking from two people and clicking the lynch button. I mean, sure, they could pull a StrikerLee and derp themselves into oblivion via kamikaze, but it's best to stay optimistic to such things, eh?

 

Never, ever assume competence.

What if Lungs was judge? D: That would be a disaster.

 

Lump vote: Ash

Because, why not?

Also, I agree with Menace's idea,

coupled with this.

 

You're not the angel Castiel. You're a dirty white knight.

 

Pretty much this. At best we avoid a Last Gasp. Realistically a lynch fails at a critical point.

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Ninjas fucking everywhere.

 

lynch castiel

this can't possibly go wrong :derps:

 

Lump Vote: jwlk

Menace's idea was half-good and jwlk addition made it take that step needed to become complete. It's definitely pro-town, so I'm cautiously optimistic about both its devisers.

How? Unless you mean a mislynch (which are normal and happen with collective lynch-decisions, too) or sudden inactivity by the Judge that causes a no-lynch, I don't see that as a realistic problem.

It's more likely that the Witches will correctly guess who the Judge is, I think, but if he/she is a little bit smart, he/she can mostly avoid that. This doesn't include sort-of-extreme situations like us fixating on lynching the Judge and nominating him/her often, while he/she obviously keeps on picking the other target. But this could be used as misdirection too and WINE WINE WINE.

 

You really love answering your own questions don't you? To semiquote you, yes, I do see late game where the lynch becomes dependent on a role that could have been kiled the night before. Especially when you consider the size of this game. But then you already knew that.

 

I have a completely different reason in that

Things Just Sorta Die when there's no pressure to get an actual lynch wagon going. People will wave non-nonchalantly at one or two people and go "yeah one of them."

Like avoiding a last gasp is all well and dandy but I don't know if it's worth it to remove the pressure from people to actually look at the thread and cast a vote.

 

Lumpfriend Votals
KaiDASH: (3) Lungs, Vira, KaiDASH
Jwlk: (2) Jwlk, Uncle Stojil
soundlyParanoid: (2) soundlyParanoid, Gambit
Menace: (1) Menace

This is a plurality vote.

Lynch Votals
Lungs: (2) Lungs, Menace
KaiDASH: (1) Ash
Castiel: (1) KaiDASH

With 13 alive, it is 7 to lynch.

 

fake votes suck and nobody cares about them, before you bring that up

 

Listen, there is really no point arguing about this.

Unless someone genuinely has a mechanical problem/found an issue with judge ultimately deciding the lynch, then we can play the game like normal. The only thing is, don't hammer the lynch. Use Deadline votes. Whatever you have to do, and lets find 2 candidates to lynch, and have the judge decide.

With that, Deadline vote: Kalas

What you say makes no sense, judge is always town, and unless the judge purposefully wants to lose, he'll kill one of the two people we say. we only use the judge the first day, anything after that we lynch normally.

 

Honestly, I had just woken up and I stupidly didn't consider the Judge being night-killed. Yeah, I was that drowsy.

/me facepalms

But the idea still has merits for the first day.

It's not actually a fake vote since it will bring the death of one of the two voted players 99,9999%. So the "caring" should be just about the same as per a normal lynch, only with the added bonus of making two wagons and of knowing the Judge will survive day 1. It's not much but it's worth considering, IMO.

 

Do you know what I find hi-larious jwlk? Good mafia players blatantly grasping at straws to justify theor lynch vote. If you can be bothered to go back and read my problem with yours and Menace's plan was the very realy possibility of the Judge being NKed at a very inoppurtune moment, aka tje endgame.

A problem you not so subtly acknowleged with your last second 'well we'd only use the judge on tje firstday anyway'.

 

This whole "plan" is and was always only meant to be used on the first day, nothing else would make sense...

So unless I am missing something, there are no night kills before the end of D1.

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What was the problem, again?

 

Oh there are many jwlk, but I'm going to keep this simple so I can go to bed.

First of all, I have zero problems with a Day 1 lynch being carried out by the Judge.

Secondly this plan was not conceived, presented or taken as a Day 1 only thing. That only became a thing when I pointed out the gaping, scum friendly holes in it.

You quoted me this:

So let me quote you this:

Which, unless your pessimistic enough to think we'd lynch the Judge Day 1, implies a timeline extending past Day 1.

THAT'S my problem with this. My problem with YOU is your ability to read a post and only see the parts that support your previous conclusion. This was obviously not a Day 1 thing (you're backpedaling if you try and say otherwise), I'm not the only person who realized that and I wasn't the first to point it out. So..

Deadline Lynch Vote: jwlk

 

Rereading everything, I'm pretty sure I was the only one stupid/sleepy enough to extend the plan to the following days. And your quote doesn't actually prove your point, Kalas, unless I'm missing something. Again.

But enough linking myself to jwlk. Carry on.

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I was missing something.

This is exactly the purpose of the plan, I think.

 

I'm in the judge lynching camp. It makes sense to narrow the pool of potential suspects down by one on the first day, because nobody has any real idea of who is scum and who isn't.

As for potential lynch candidates, Kalas is obvious choice (though I'm not getting major scum vibes at this point, just that he picked a minor detail that was made in error and expanded on it), followed by Lungs, Kai and Stojil because Lungs is Lungs and his rulesets suck, I distrust Kai on principle and Stojil made a derp (so really, I've got nothing at this point).

 

Yeah, the whole Judge lynch thing was only for today, Kalas. Hence the part Jwlk quoted. The part you quoted was more a happy afterthought than anything.