Oh didn't see the last posts. So if Stojil is unaligned then I must double-back on my reads.
Not. Cool.

 

But now I'm wondering why Lord Voldemort would be a neutral SK. Shouldn't he be with the Death Eaters, or something? I never got the impression Voldemort wanted everyone else dead.

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In canon I mean.

 

It's Voldemort, a genocidal sociopath. Wouldn't shock me if he could win with the Death Eaters and win even more just by himself.

 

I just realized this isn't likely to occur.

 

I was rather dubious myself.

 

Well, anyway, I suspect he was either trying to attract the lynch or the night kill (onto him, a VT, rather than a PR), or to just generally trick scum into doing something stupid like suddenly switching wagons. Could be wrong though.

Jeapordizer, your post on the last page is either strong evidence that you're town, or the biggest pile of WIFOM I've ever seen in my life.

 

WIFOM? Watisdat?

 

Wine In Front Of Me. It's another way of saying WINE.

 

Thanks.

On one hand, it is genuine. On the other, it would be really cool if I had managed to snag the prize for biggest WINE/WIFOM .

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And just to say it, I'm pretty sure all teams are accounted for:

Case 1: Town has a vigilante
Can be explained by Wetnurse and AngelRick being lovers. We had 2 consecutives mislynchs, he acted, he got Tom. (kudos for that btw, he wasn't anywhere near my scum-reads)

Case 2: Town has a killer-role
Can be explained by AngelRick and Wetnurse NOT being lovers. He got Voldemort, kudos.

Case 3: 3 teams.
Voldy team kill Wetnurse or AngelR, scum team B kill the other N1. N2 Tom kill Lochness, scum team B kill Tom.

Case 4: Vigilante+3 teams/Killer+3teams:
2 NK target a single person and 1 NK on another 2 consecutive nights, or just on the 2nd. I find it unlikely.


With Lochness death the existence of power roles is confirmed. If we consider the set-up (closed), I feel the Town HAS to have a killer/vigilante/night-kill ability to even things out. As such I think we are in Case 1 or 2 and that "third-party Voldemort" was to mislead/keep us as uninformed as possible/had to do with the fluff.

 

So there are seven of us alive. Since I know I'm town, that means there are six people who could potentially be scum:

Jeopardizer
Kalas
Mishie
Republic21
Riley Poole
Rubicon

Now my guess, since Stojil flipped third party, is that there are three scum hiding among this six.

The three that I've found scummiest over the course f the game are Kalas, Republic and Riley.

So I ask myself, "Is it possible that the three are in a scumteam?"

Well, Riley and Republic can definitely be partners. Riley chainsaw defends Republic, in post 195. then Republic lists Riley as a town read, inexplicably, in post 201.

The only reason I can see that Kalas might not fit into this scenario is because of his lynch vote on Republic, in Day 2. However, that vote was never going to turn into a lynch, and he follows it up with this:

So there could certainly be a connection between those two.

Another thing that might be worth mentioning is that LochNess wanted to lynch Kalas on Day2. In light of her flip, we have to wonder if maybe she checked him N1 and got a positive result.

So for those reasons, Lynch Vote: Kalas

What do you guys think?

 

I agree that there are 3, maybe 2, scum, since there was a SK.

Of the livelist, Mishie is definitely scum. I mean seriously, why aren't more people on his case?
I have many more suspicions and thoughts on the still alive players, but since we don't have a margin for error on this Day's lynch, I will:

Lynch Vote: Mishie.

I find it very interesting that Bill Door didn't mention Mishie at all in his scummy list.

 

Why exactly is mishie scum, Republic? I don't include him in my list of the three scummiest players because he hasn't been one of them. He's made some good points, albeit in too few posts, and he's the only person who wasn't on either of the mislynch bandwagons.

So yeah, I don't think he's scum.

 

What does that have to do with anything? Scum don't care what wagon they're on.

 

It's a sign the he hasn't been bandwagoning in the same way people like you, Riley and Republic. And most of the time scum do end up on mislynch bandwagons. Not every time, but I'd expect a scum player to be on one of the two at least.

Also, feel free to post people. Riley and mishie, I don't think we've heard from you today. What are your thoughts?

 

I honestly think that you've just won the game for us Bill Door, I've also been suspicious of Riley for a while, and the fact that Republic responded so agressively when you voted for Kalas is kind of a bad sign... And well, it does fit that there would be 4 scum in this game, and since stojil was a 3rd party, that leaves 3 scum as a team left. So uh
Lynch Vote: Kalas.

 

Soooo.. scum vote how they want. On a wagon, not on a wagon, almost like it doesn't matter to them.

Heres a thought for you Bill, Lochness obviously didn't check me. How would I be alive, as scum, if I had been checked. Thats not the kind of thing you sit on.

 

Eh, not every cop will reveal with only one result. Sometimes they'll wait if they feel they aren't in threat of dying that night. Especially if it's a N1 check and they have no guarantee of doc protection.

I'm not saying she definitely did check you, but it's a possibility.

 

I love this.

"If I was scum and LochNess checked me, she would have posted in the thread that I was scum. So LochNess obviously didn't check me. Because I'm scum. With Mishie."

Vote: Kalas

also:

Seriously bad comment.
/twinges

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Just realized that's too many votes on Kalas.
Unvote

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Huge FoS: Kalas instead, so we don't risk a hard lynch

 

Votals!

Kalas: (2) Bill Door, Mishie
Mishie: (1) Republic21

Abstaining: (4) Jeopardizer, Kalas, Riley Poole, Rubicon

With 7 players remaining, it is 4 to hard lynch. There is no soft lynch.

45 hours until Day Three ends.

 

My issue BillDoor is that every person you've pushed a lynch for has been a vanilla town. You also defended Stojil who we all now know was the third party killer. I also will point out that you seem extremely sure that Kalas was checked by the cop when in fact we'll never know because they're dead unfortunately.

The next big issue I have with BillDoor is that he claims I, Kalas and Republic are bandwagoning the same people when in fact the only time any of us were on the same bandwagon was for the Sacrifice lynch. Which we all know BillDoor took the lead on and we all see how that ended.

Billdoor, you'll know your assumptions are getting out of hand when they're based on false premises.

Next I'm not sure exactly what a chainsaw defense is, but I can certainly tell you I wasn't defending just Republic, but the idea that pushing a lynch on someone who can't respond is a scummy mover and should have been a big tell. Unfortunately I can't claim I was right on the person who pushed the lynch as Jeopardizer seems to have disappeared for now and the only posts we have from Jeop are about game mechanics and nothing on who they suspect or why and therefore I have no reads except for my earlier ones which all pointed the wrong direction.

Finally, I can't believe we're dismissing Rubicon and his role-reveal. His post earlier is entirely stupid. What Kalas said is true, if Lochness knew that Kalas was scum and knew we were getting towards the fewer amount of people, then why didn't they share it. If there is someone who was in communication why aren't they coming forward now? If they came forward and shared what LochNess found, the game would potentially be over.

I think BillDoor, Mishie and Rubicon are acting the scummiest right now, especially since both of you are throwing a bunch of shit and hoping it sticks to something. It seems like you two are trying to push a bandwagon that could only happen in endgame. "All scum pick one person and dogpile it for the win."

Therefore my vote is to Lynch Vote: BillDoor.

especially considering you said and I quote "Since I know I'm town, that means there are six people who could potentially be scum." so quit making an ass out of you and me.

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The issues I posted regarding Jeop posting only about mechanics are regarding play since the last Lynch/NK, just for clarification.