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A history of the wizarding world

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ray243, Jul 26, 2012.

  1. Red Aviary

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    Failing to produce a son had a little something to do with that. Henry was a bit of an asshole.
     
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    This topic is rather promising. -cackles-
     
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    It's been done/discussed at many places, but it would be interesting to see the interactions of the Rome in the Middle Ages (meaning mostly the Vatican) dealing with magic.

    If anyone knew about it they would - Popes dealing with wizards. Maybe a mutually beneficial arrangement - the Church was sure big on miracles/signs. What better way to provide them to the public than magic. e.g. Borgias and magic has been used in pop culture before. Possibly conflict/power struggles eventually culminating into fiercer and fiercer witch hunts that finally drives Wizards into hiding? (Yes a lot of wizards take burning as a joke, but it still contributed to them going into hiding.)

    Also, the Black Plague having to do with something magic or affecting the magical world more than Muggles? Possible explanation for the beginning of the ridiculous demographic/population difference?
     
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    Is that spam, or just retardation? It doesn't look like it's even advertising anything.
     
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    It's a bot I think, possibly advertising the sig link. Drop a part of the text at google and you get a blog post on the Guardian.
     
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    On the American tangent, maybe Frederick Douglass or Harriet Tubman? In the first case, we've got someone who escaped slavery, evaded authorities long enough to stay free AFAIK, and lived to speak and write about it. In his own account of his escape, he narrates only a portion before refusing to say anymore about just how he managed to get to the North. IIRC, he learned how to read and write from his master's wife. Maybe a witch who recognized his talent?

    In the second case, we have a woman heavily associated with a system that helped a great deal of slaves escape using underground tunnels, unlikely allies, well-hidden safehouses, astronomy, and things like signs etched into trees.
     
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    This reminds me, rather obvious: I thnk the greatest potential in American history is the Cuvil War. Opposing magical sides as well. Traditional forms pf magic vs more radical innovations (no I don't mean magical cell phones/Iron Man - more like integration of African magics/Native magics considered inferior by the South). Could even set the stage for the segregation debate. Maybe landowners in the South vs New Money of the North? Basically like blood is the great diving factor in Britain, something related to the Civil Warand it's consequences could be, for America.

    Not to mention older eventsAmerican Revolution/Salem Witch trials but these seem 'flatter'/more black and white to me dramatically...hence I suggest the Civil War focus.
     
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    About the Americas an obvious question to consider is who were the wizards and witches who first went there? Were the British dominant, or did the French or Spanish have more influence on the magical side? Were there rich families establishing plantations or poor people fleeing from oppression?

    At the time of the Civil War the statute of secrecy would have been in place for nearly two hundred years, and the wizarding side of America could be very different from the muggle side. The Indians might even have been stronger on the magical side (where the European wizards wouldn't have had the advantage of weapons technology), and the European magical colonization might be limited on the eastern coast only. I could easily see Indians being extremely good in the sort of hit and run tactics and guerrilla warfare magic tends to favor.

    Also an interesting topic might be what kind of new innovation would have happened because of the colonization. New potions ingredients and therefore new potions come to mind first.
     
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    Europeans have wands. JK Rowling said that wands were created by european wizards and they would probably have kept wandmaking a secret from the indians.[​IMG]
     
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    As an option to the American Civil War aspect, what if you claimed that the initial settlers to the Americas were those whom rejected the establishment of the Statute of Secrecy, and eventually the cultures of the North and South split as the South began to pull for secrecy and the North demanded a society in which everyone was equal. Or vice versa. In either case, to remain true to canon the faction demanding secrecy would have to be the winners.

    The only reason I'm even thinking about this is that with the Civil War angle, there would be no reason for the wizards to have a conflict as slavery is not an issue considering the existence of house elves.
     
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    Problem with this you have to remember smallpox, measles, yellow fever etc did most of the 'heavy lifting' in the conquest of the Americas (loss rates from this source alone was calculated at around 28-1, according to Thomas Mann's book 1491) and Native American 'Wizards' had no frame of reference to deal with magical versions of these diseases any more than muggle 'Shamans' (yes, maybe the same people) and would probably die at simular rates.

    Basically native wizards would drop from dragonpox the same way muggles died from smallpox.

    Still, Native Reservations/Reserves etc seem to be places where the Statute of Secrecy enforcement might be very lax and even possibly ignored, except when outsiders are around.
     
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    An evolution of the wand, or whatever magical conduit is used around the world would be interesting. The slow improvement of magical attunement over the last two-thousand years could be a compelling read in its own right.
     
  14. anilorak

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    To begin with, if you wish to write a full history of the Wizarding World, please remember that you should do it in such a manner that nobody gets bored while reading it.

    And the history of the spells. How does inventing of a spell look, how spells were discovered, etc. I mean, it wasn't like that in prehistoric age first wizard was born and suddenly he knew a particular spell for lighting the fire. He must've invented the spell, but the question is — how does one invent the spell? Maybe ancient Egyptians were involved in this business as well, gathering the knowledge of magic? After all, their civilization was so much on the border between magical and non-magical life.
     
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    That would be subjective to the people reading it. There are many people who find that reading any history book is an extremely boring process.



    I would assume that the initial discovery of magic and the early usage of it would occur way too early for us to have any records of it.

    The same way we do not have any historical records on how the early historical civilisation rise, or how man discovered fire.



    One interesting thing we can explore was the fact that Ollivanders have been making wands since the 4th century BC. This can either mean the wizards in Britain kept a much better historical record than the muggles regarding the early history of Britain, or the Ollivanders migrated from another region that kept a much better historical record.
     
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