A little. But since one of the themes of the story is how generations are replacing and surpassing each other, it makes you wonder about other classes. These nameless or filler generations that nobody cares about.

 

Not really as there only seems to be clumps of age groups in the manga. I was under the impression that Kakashi advanced through the shinobi ranks at a very fast pace. Genin at 5 or so and chunnin a year or so later. This chapter seems to contradict that.

I'm expecting something very convoluted in ways of explanation on Obito.

 

I find it more of a stretch that all of Konoha's clan heirs landed in the same class. Even Naruto is probably the heir of the Uzumaki clan, unless that fell to Nagato or Karin or some random.

 

I doubt that it will be anything other than the real Obito at this point. It just seems likely that Kishimoto will indeed go through with this :facepalm. Having it not be Obito afterall would be an amusing troll from Kishi I guess, but I just don't belive it anymore .

I wonder how he is going to fix the timeline. I mean was Obito not just a teenager at best during the Minato thing. And what the heck was up with Obito claiming that he had waited a long time for an opportunity to get Kyuubi? A couple of years? Unless it really goes stupid and Kamui really does allow timetravel.

As for why Obito did not know how Minatos technique worked, I would speculate that maybe the Tobi that was responsible for fighting Minato was actually a different Tobi from the one we see now/Obito. But I don't really see how that fits given that Kyuubi!Tobi also used Kamui. I guess its possible that someone temporarily used Obitos eye and then gave it back. Silly, but given how easily people swap eyes in this series, not impossible.

Bah, none of that makes any sense at all. I am really disappointed in Tobi being Obito. I would much rather have had Tobi be someone more exciting and interesting. Obito is quite likely going to be boring and pathetic storywise. I would wager we will see a flashback where Obito turns evil because Rin did not love him or somesuch nonsense. Either that, or he is mindcontrolled which is just as bad.

One thing is clear. Obito will end up being tnjed by Kakashi/Naruto and converted back to the light side of the force somehow. I guess thats one potential source of interest. I mean if Obito always was Tobi, then he killed both of Narutos parents and tried to kill Naruto himself as a baby. Might be interesting to see how Naruto deals with this and whether this would challenge his new belief in forgiveness. Though I suspect its more likely that after Obito is converted, he will conveniently make sure no such problems arise by doing a Nagato and killing himself somehow.

 

Kishimoto's drawing is confusing. Gai/Kakashi/Obito can't be the same age either since they graduated the academy 7/5/9 respectively.

 

I would say that this is a shark jumping moment, but let's be honest. That ship sailed a long time ago.

 

The databooks shows Gai, Kakashi, Asuma and Kurenai to have about the same age. And the first scene shows them joining the Academy along with Rin and Obito.

That said, Kakashi getting his promotion to Chuunin when he is teammates with them doesn't make any sense, since it should happen years ago.

 

Kishi is apparently invalidating the databooks, which I suppose he has a right to do.

Is there anywhere in the manga that specifically says when Kakashi became a chuunin? If not, then this is now the new canon.

 

What a dissapointment this chapter was, it just seems Kishimoto just tried to cram too much in without regard for his story and that's not including the reveal. As others have said it has to be either possesion ala Orochimaru or it actually is Obito.....and I'm not fond of either option.

Don't you say you're quitting reading Naruto every couple of weeks?

 

Let's call it an even once a month, perhaps more often when the story is focusing on Sasuke. Manga still jumped the shark a long time ago.

 

I actually snorted a bit.

EDITed for smashing.

 

Man, lotsa hate in this thread. I suspected just as soon as we learned a bit more about 'Tobi'.

I'm actually pleased to be right, and am not going to jump to conclusions until the whole thing is explained. Possession or brainwashing/corruption by some external force does sound likely though.

Haters gonna hate, though.

 

Meh, it's not too much of a shock but still a bit of a letdown. I was somewhat expecting an alternate Naruto or time traveling one who was trying to stop an even bigger mess further down the line to be honest. Still if it turns out this is some sort of revenge trip on Kakashi being so much better than him I'll be pissed off.

 

Oh, we all saw it coming. We're just mad because it's really fucking stupid.

 

Do we know how much time passed between Obito getting crushed under the rock and the Kyuubi incident with Tobi?

Would he even have had enough time to develope the strength to not only fight Minato almost evenly but also to go through with the rest of the freeing the Kyuubi thing?

I really hope the next chapter will not be just like: have some color pages, kthxbye. I really, really hope we do at least get some explanation now, no matter how stupid. Almost anything would be better than this at this point I think.

 

It couldn't have been any more than five years, in my opinion, essentially giving Minato the time to learn the ropes of being the Hokage and time for the war to finish. Wasn't it basically dying out when Obito died anyway?

 

Someone put together a timeline. There is only one year between Obito and the Yondaimes death. Of course, given how Kishimoto has been completely ignoring his own canon, there's no guarantee that he'll even remember it.

 

No one noticed Anko in the chuunin exam, at the same time as Kakashi even though she was 6 years younger?

 

First of all, it seems fairly obvious to me that shinobi of the previous generation were sorted by age group, not strictly their year of birth. Probably something to do with wartime recruitment policies and manpower issues.

Secondly, like I already said, it's clear that Kishi is invalidating the databooks in favour of this new canon. Whatever makes it into the manga basically overrides any information that was already given elsewhere years ago.

Obviously there are plenty of Konoha shinobi besides those we know of. The ones we know the names of are in some way significant to the story. I'm not bothered by the fact that pretty much all the known ninjas of that generation were in one Academy class. They've been the focus of Kishi's attention because they were all fellow classmates of the previous 'plot-significant' generation. It's very possible that Kishi just asspulled all this stuff recently, but he's obviously been trying to flesh out the last generation to a greater extent. For instance that stuff about the Yondaime's personal bodyguards who could perform Hiraishin. And now the latest chapter's revelations.

Considering Tobi is Obito, it's important to show that his generation was also an important and familiar one, or else no reader will really care about him.