Because that became obvious about two hundred plus chapters ago. It's getting old. It's all been said before.

 

I've stopped reading Naruto manga some time ago though I've been reading this thread. So can someone summarize the whole Tobi is Obito thing?

 

Tobi is Obito.

 

I might even be tempted to go so far as to say: Obito is Tobi.

 

He has a point.

But then, so does Howdy.

Basically, before he died, the real Madara saved Obito, but due to injuries Obito couldn't escape for quite some time. When he finally left his recovery area to go try and help save Rin and Kakashi, the first thing he sees when he finally gets to them is Kakashi just after shoving a Chidori through Rin's chest just like Sasuke did to Naruto at the Valley of The End.

That's all we have so far.

 

The only reason that I still sometimes catch up with the manga, is that some fanfics reference the new stuff that comes up.

Although the fights seem to have become much more boring recently.
All the characters seem to be using only their 'ultimate' techniques. It's pretty boring.
It almost looks like Pokemon - everyone is only allowed to use a small number of skills and if they learn a new one, they have to forget an old one.
Sasuke seems to be exclusively using his Mangekyou special powers, etc.

 

Not sure if you read the manga, but even the Pokemon manga shows a much vast "skillset" compared to Naruto, sad to say!

 

I dunno Tobi vs Minato fight was boss.

It is only reason I still read the manga, there are still few diamonds buried in that shit.

 

I don't know that I've had a post in here that couldn't be summarized as "Moon's Eye Plan: Your Argument is invalid" but yes. This is the best possible ending. It's sucked for years, and Kishi is just straight up trolling. This would be the best thing to happen in the manga since the fox got named after that Yu Yu Hakusho character.

It would have to be handled like that "You can't ignore my girth" picture too.

 

Fanon is that she is an Inuzuka due to the markings on her face but who knows.

 

I read it as her being under their control, like an extremely advanced genjutsu, but one Konoha could have reverse engineered from her body.

Or poison or something that Kiri had that had been used on her and would have killed her anyway, that the body would have revealed ala Sasori's poison, and allowed Konoha to develop an antidote.

So, it could have been a mercy killing by Kakashi, knowing that she would die, so he killed her himself so that it wouldn't be as painfull.

 

Oh goody, more inexplicable power-ups. Who trains these days anyway?

I suppose if this killing was sanctioned by Konoha and Kakashi was deemed in the right, this would explain why Obito had no problem going after Naruto's family.

 

Maybe Kakashi just slipped and fell?

Anyway, the more I see of Obito, the more stupid he becomes. I have to say, the dual mangekyo awakening was a cool panel, but that leases the question as to why Kakashi didn't use his ability earlier?

He just never realized he had it? He never knew there was a stage beyond vanilla Sharingan?

 

I think it was more that Kakashi couldn't use it because he didn't have the chakra for it - or his body was not attuned to it. As he was before the time-skip, just calling it out probably would've put him near death. Also, he was cetainly aware of the Mangekyou when he faced Itachi after the Sand-Sound Invasion arc.

So Obito can use Mokuton too? Seriously? Hashirama's had his DNA stolen and later his powers bastardized by Madara, Orochimaru, Kabuto, Danzo and now Obito (Tenzo too, though that was Oro's doing). He has to be the most abused character in the history of Manga.

 

Yamato was acceptable. It was shown and or implied that a shitload of Science, capital S, was done to make him able to use the First Hokage's bloodlimit, and even then at only a fraction of the potential - he was the only survivor in a test group overseen by a mad ninja scientist who's specialty was bloodlimits. That's acceptable. That's a decent back story.

What's not is this crazy bizarro shit where putting their body in your body somehow equates to being able to use their bloodlimit. The First Hokage's face? Sharingans in your arm? What the goddamn fuck. At least Kabuto was an apprentice to the crazy gene-splicing ninja scientist and a medic nin, so he had an excuse for being able to become Kabutomaru.

So what, if I take one of Kimmimaro's ribs and make a nosering, do I get to make spine swords? Does eating hyouten ice let me spam Demonic Ice Mirrors?

I thought there was a reason that Kumo needed a Hyuuga alive to steal the Byakugan. Transplanting bloodlimits CANNOT be that fucking simple, otherwise everyone would be doing it. Killed an Uchiha? Sweet, let me just stick those Sharingans in my ears so I can hack causality in a pinch if I need to.

 

I still can't get over the fact that in the world, where hunter nin destroy bodies so that enemy ninja can't get information about techniques they used, the people in Konoha (and seeing the shitton of people Kabuto brought back the other villages too) absolutely refuse to burn bodies.

I am going to ignore the similarities to shinto, in which bodies are burned and that they are in the land of fire but why the fuck are they not doing it in a place where gene/body part theft seems to be common place?

Heck the Hyuuga even made up the most dysfunctional way of protecting their bloodline limit because it happens so often and no one can be bothered to burn their strongest bloodlinelimit users?

On that matter, how did everyone believe Shisui's death was a suicide when he was missing both eyes? Or how did no one realize that the dead Uchiha's were missing their eyes too?

So much could have been prevented if they had stuck to the already established fact of burning bodies.

It wouldn't gall me so much if it weren't so easy to prevent. None of the villains of the manga could have really succeeded if they had burned the Shodai's body.

 

Nah Shisui had erased his corpse thats why Kabuto didn't bring him back to life. The only evidence was the note hence the suspicion on Itachi killing him.

http://manga.animea.net/naruto-chapter-550-page-12.html

But otherwise the reason for Rin's death is already seemingly to feel kinda underwhelming, I mean Kakashi passed out and they could have retrieved his Sharingan (If not Obito) so what was the point of killing Rin, I doubt whatever secret about her body could be more valuable than Kakashi's Sharingan.

 

I thought he drowned? Wasn't that what was said in the flashback?

http://i04.animea.net/32%2F222-fixed_ZNSBT%2F13-ZZRWL.png

Guess newer chapters count more but still, weak.

 

FUCKING THIS. It's established in the fucking Wave Arc that proper Village protocol is to burn dead ninjas so people don't steal their techniques and bloodlimits. There are so many stolen bloodlimits showing up that should not have been able to have been stolen.

Uchihas I can believe Danzo having access to (access only, mind you - arm eyes is still bullshit). There's a shit-ton of them and Danzo pulled black op shit and took the bodies immediately after death (though I am perplexed as to why Orochimaru couldn't just take some random Uchiha's eyes - technique copying is why he wanted them and all of them two-tomoe and up do that more or less the same. He's a fucking sannin who specializes in ninjutsu, who managed to hide an entire gene-lab from the God of Shinobi. You're telling me he couldn't arrange a single accident for any Sharingan-bearing Uchiha before the massacre went down? Certainly didn't stop him from napping all those kids off the streets. What shit.)

The First Hokage, on the other hand, should have been atomized on the spot, given his ability to CONTROL BIJUU, along with the Second just on good principle. I can't believe it not being just common-sense ninja policy for all villages to destroy all evidence of their ninja, especially fucking Kage-class ninja, immediately upon death. And yet somehow, every village managed to leave enough DNA around for Kabutomaru to summon zombies of them.

There's no way villages are that dumb. I loved the fighting arc of the zombie Kages and enemies to death, but it was just plain stupid.

In which case, Kabutomaru must be bullshitting about the needing DNA part of Edo Tensei - but that makes even less sense, as if that were true, he would just take the Elemental Countries' S-Class obituary list and start spamming immortal zombies as much as he pleased.

Geh. Naruto necromancy does not make sense.

 

Well wasn't it implied that Madara got his Hashirama cells during his final fight with him? Burning his body would have likely stopped Orochimaru's experiments with the cells but were unlikely to affect what Madara and Tobi are doing.

It makes some sense if you consider that most of the ninja probably died in combat. Their bodies may have never been in possession of their village to destroy in the first place. They could have been in the labs of rival villages being checked for secrets. Granted Oro somehow managed to get his hands on Minato's dna when Konoha certainly had his body. There's also the possibility that they only destroy what they think can be used by the enemy but bury the rest. Kabuto's jutsu doesn't take much to work.