Uhhh...You're only about two weeks late to that discussion. And it was pretty pointless to begin with; lord knows I only went along with it for the lulz.

Yeah, that would be a bit of a problem, though Dumbledore might have been able to do something about it; Taure was definitely right about it being a (potentially) critical moment in the series.

As for me, I've got something of a procedural question here. If there's a fic in the library whose links are all dead, then should I necro the thread just to bring that up, or is there someone else I should ask about it?

 

Send a PM to the Library mods instead.

 

On a smilar note, I'm trying to update my fic and it won't let me, saying the thread is 30+ days old. Obviously I'm not gonna necro my own thread. PM moderator for access or something?

 

I think there's a check box you're meant to tick when posting in the thread.

 

Thanks good sir.

 

What would happen if Voldemort were to be kissed by a Dementor? Would that be it, lock him up somewhere and leave him then search for the Hocruxes at their leisure. It would kind of add a nice touch to the reason he allied with them to begin with.

Also the only reason Harry Potter was special was because he was the only one that could kill Voldemort, right? Anyone else could have beaten him and captured him and then started looking for a way to kill him. Kind of like in MBF in Midnight tides when Brys just dismantles Rhulad not killing him but inflicting crippling damage so that he could be dealt with without him resurrecting.

 

The Dementor would get a stomach ache and vomit him out of course.

Huh... Now that I think about it, that might actually happen. Given that he has his soul anchored to the mortal coil his Horcruxes might pull his soul fragment back out of the Dementor .It might not be able to actually digest/do whatever it does with the souls it consumes.

That might be a reason why Dumbledore never tried to destroy Horcruxes using Dementors.

 

What if having the Dementor consume the soul of a Horcrux (assuming they can even do that) would be the equivalent on turning it into Horcrux?

 

What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object?

I'd say the magic of Dementors is stronger than something a school kid can cook up on his free time, but as there's no canon answer it's up to you.

All in all I don't like the idea of Horcruxes being some sort of end all be all gadget of immortality, it just seems too easy. There should be literally hundreds of people hanging around with their souls anchored if there wasn't some major drawbacks.

 

I did try to answer that question, though I haven't finished the thought.

 

I'd assume that a Dementor only consumes the portion of the soul within the Horcrux, akin to eating a slice of pizza instead of the entire thing.

On a similar note, I'm curious as to what effect phoenix tears would have on a damaged Horcrux. I imagine it would repair it, since basilisk venom proved itself magically potent enough to effect one, and phoenix tears are at least equally as powerful, if not more so.

 

How exactly would a horcrux get damaged. In canon they were almost indestructible apart from a few things that destroyed them instantly. If the casing of the horcrux gets damaged, I imagine it would destroy the horcrux itself before phoenix tears could do anything. Not that they would anyway as what phoenix would want to save someone with a horcrux?

 

Aside from the horcrux in Harry and the other in Nagini, why would phoenix tears repair a horcrux?

Phoenix tears heal; they don't repair. You can't slather them on your computer when the CPU takes a shit, or put them in your car's fuel system so the engine won't throw a rod. :awesome

 

Good lord that is most hilarious dialog in parseltongue ever. :awesome :fire I can't stop laughing.

 

I don't know... there are some damned funny moments in Wick by Slitherincess: Because Pansy tells Harry if he wants to get any, he'll have to ask in Parseltongue.

Particularly, there's a scene where Harry gets caught telling a picture of a snake, "Snake, I want to fuck you." while trying to train himself to speak Parseltongue at will. :awesome

There's an amusing scene with him practicing parseltongue with Hermione, too.

 

The reason I was thinking of what effect phoenix tears would have on a Horcrux is due to their nature - do the tears distinguish between organic creatures with soul parts and objects which shouldn't possess one, or do they just try to heal anything with a soul in? And the closest you could get to healing an inanimate object such as a diary or locket is to repair them.

So I suppose the question could better be phrased as what determines whether phoenix tears are capable of healing something? Will it heal any organic creature (within reason) or does it react to the presence of a soul?

 

The whole purpose of a horcrux is to prevent the soul from being directly accessed. The only way to destroy a horcrux is to destroy the physical container, beyond the ability of magic to repair.

Ergo: a dementor would have no effect on a horcrux.

Maybe on a living one like Harry, though. As Dumbledore said, Voldemort was somewhat crazy for making a living horcrux.

As for Voldemort himself: we know exactly the mechanism by which horcruxes function: they anchor the soul to the Earth. If death can't steal his soul away, I doubt a dementor can. (Apart from that, one wonders if dementors would even perceive what Voldemort has as a soul. It's possible their powers only apply to whole souls. I've always felt, since HBP, that Voldemort's horcruxes explain his ability to command dementors).

 

Wasn't Voldemort immune to Dementors? I thought that was why he could control them much easier than the Ministry could.

I always thought of Dementors like a fungus rather than sentient beings. They feed on negativity and their presence suppresses any positive emotion in the people present. Eating souls isn't necessary for survival but they do it opportunistically. However I assume that they don't prefer to feed on people who get off on negativity (Bellatrix and a few of the more fucked up Azkaban inmates for instance).

Plus they can probably sense that Voldemort's soul is tethered to horcruxes and wouldn't bother trying to suck out his soul (which wouldn't work, and as was mentioned, might even harm the Dementor.)

So what does everyone think would happen if someone tried to use the Imperius Curse on a Kissed soulless body? I'm debating if it would make more sense for them to be super easy to manipulate, to the point of being able to keep several under the Curse at once, or if it just wouldn't work because the mind is intrinsically linked to the souls? Maybe it would only work as long as the soul remained in the Dementor's gut and they'd drop dead once the soul was farted into the afterlife?

 

I suspect it would be the same as using it on a normal person. But why would you want to? It would be like controlling an empty shell. I think it would take even more effort because you would have to make it do everything, not just give it a command and let them get on with it like you do with a normal person who gets cursed.