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Naruto Manga Thread

Discussion in 'Books and Anime Discussion' started by Verse of Darkness, Feb 17, 2007.

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  1. Cxjenious

    Cxjenious Dark Lord

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    The question is, who dies next?
     
  2. DarkAizen

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    New chapter is up.

    Holy shit!
     
  3. Celestin

    Celestin Dimensional Trunk

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    I'm pretty sure that in the end Obito will revive everyone killed in this battle like Nagato did. Still, we will see how many will die before that happens. I expect that pretty much everyone and Naruto will fight alone.
     
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    Naruto'll rip out Tobito's eye and do the deed himself. Had some cool scenes going on in this chapter.
     
  5. Paranoid Android

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    It's good to finally have a reason as to why Madara, who is knowledgeable enough of the resurrection Justsu to free himself from Kabuto's control, didn't just use the technique to bring himself back to life. I'm liking how this puts him at the mercy of Obito who apparently doesn't trust him.

    Also I'm kind of iffy on Neji dying, on one hand I was expecting some main characters to die but on the other hand if Obito brings all the dead people back there goes Neji's moment in the spotlight.
     
  6. Aerylife

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    I hope Kishi lets him stay dead, otherwise it would totally ruin the moment.
     
  7. Darth Disaster

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    And it's chapters like this that are the reason I still read the Manga. Yeah, sure, most of the rest of it is shit. But this was fucking awesome.

    Though I wish we had more details on what Inashi is. I don't see the difference from Kaiten.
     
  8. Cxjenious

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    Well...they weren't spinning, were they? I can't remember.
     
  9. Howdy

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    I sort of agree.

    With that last taunt, it's seeming more and more like Obito is fishing for a reason to entrust Naruto with the goal of peace, just like Nagato was.

    This thing about Obito taking his own life to do the Infinite Tsukuyomi seems to spit in the face of his motivation though. I was under the impression that he wanted to be trapped in it so that he and Rin could be "together," but if he's okay with being reunited with her in death then why the hell didn't he just off himself years ago and save everyone a lot of trouble?
     
  10. Nemrut

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    Really? I had the impression that he was sick of the ninja system and how the world works which he ultimately blames for Rin's death, more than he does anyone else and he wants to change the world with the Tsukiyomi.

    So, he is willing to murder innocents, wage war and whatnot since it will lead to eternal peace and harmony. Hey, I now I know why I hate him, he is as much of a hypocritical cunt as Kiritsugi...
     
  11. Howdy

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    Only he specifically says that he doesn't care about the world any longer. He's not an idealist.
     
  12. Nemrut

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    Maybe he meant that he was just going to replace the sucky world with the better world? At least that's how I saw it but I would have to reread the chapters to confirm.
     
  13. Cxjenious

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    He's clearly conflicted and has lost sight of his original vision, like most of the "antagonists".
     
  14. Trooper

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    I actually expect Naruto to get a Rinnegan by the end of this Managa. Naturally and not as an implant. I'm not totally sure the hints I'm seeing will lead to it but I'm hoping it will. That trees growing thing every time Naruto used SageMode+Kyuubi's chakra I think was a hint in that direction.

    \(o.o)/
     
  15. Datakim

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    Yeah, this confused me too a bit.

    Obito seems to be a bit delusional when it comes to the whole IT plan. He seems to believe that anyone who dies in the real world can come back in the dream world. So for example, he was about to blow Naruto up with juubilaser while simultaneously telling Naruto that he would make Naruto a hokage in the dreamworld. I expect that he thought that once IT was active, he would just "imagine" a dream!Naruto in existence and have that Naruto take the role of a Hokage in the dream!Konoha and have his guilt over killing Naruto assuaged.

    I figure thats the same reason for Rin and Kakashi. He intends to bring Rin back as a dream!Rin, and a better Kakashi who would never be in a situation where he was forced to kill friends he would bring back as a dream!Kakashi. And then the real Obito, trapped in IT would go on living happily ever after with dream!Rin as his wife of something and dream!Kakashi as his best mate and so on.

    Now obviously those dream versions of characters would not be real. Heck, they would not even be realistic replications since Obito does not know the characters of Rin, Kakashi nor Naruto well enough to make realistic fakes. His dream!characters would be like from a poorly written Naruto fan fiction. However either Obito is too stupid to realise this, or he just does not care.

    However what I don't get is why he is willing to die himself? I mean if he thought Madara as a true friend and ally, his delusion might have progressed to the point that he would be willing to die in real world himself too, trusting that Madara, after finishing IT, would then create a dream!Obito to be with dream!Rin and so on. However he obviously does not trust Madara, so why would he trust Madara to create this dream!Obito and dream!Rin and dream!Kakashi and so on.

    The way I figure there are few possibilities.

    Its possible that Obito has become so obsessed with the idea of the current wrong being trashed, that he is willing to die to bring about the "better" fake world of IT, even if he himself won't be there to see it. The problem is that if he is dead, then its Madara who is going to create that illusionary world, and he just stated in this chapter that he does not consider Madara a friend or an ally. So why would he kill himself via RT to bring Madara back, if he cannot trust Madara to actually bring about the truly happy world Obito wants. Whats more, why would he have claimed to Naruto that he(Obito) would make dream!Naruto a hokage, if he won't be there due to dying in the real world.

    Perhaps Obito is planning for someone else to make the sacrifice? We know Sasuke has EMS, and he may or may not have had Hashiramas cells implanted. Remember that it was Obito who performed the surgery to implant Itachis eyes to Sasuke and give him EMS. It would have been a simple matter to covertly implant Hashiramas dna into Sasuke without Sasuke even knowing. Obito has been clearly planning Sasuke to play some role, and yet here Obito and Madara have no trouble controlling Juubi, just not as jinchuurikis. I wonder if Obito has figured out what caused Madara to awaken rinnegan from EMS, and hopes to replicate that in Sasuke, and then have Sasuke sacrifice himself to bring back a living Madara. Sasuke would not know that using Rinne Tensei would kill him. Remember that Obito at this point does not even know that Sasuke has wrecked his lab, killed the original white Zetsu, and is on the loose with Orochimaru. There is also the possibility of giving the other rinnegan he took from Nagatos corpse to someone, and having him/her do the job, but I don't know who would qualify.

    The third possibility, and the one I think is perhaps the most likely, is that Obito intends to stab Madara in the back and try and become the juubi jinchuuriki himself. He is an Uchiha, he has an implanted rinnegan (and the other rinnegan hidden somewhere) and half his body is made of Senju dna. He has all the same things (Rinnegan, Senju, Uchiha) that Madara has, so I see no reason why he would not be just as capable of sealing Juubi inside himself and trying to control its power as Madara.


    I doubt that a lot. Madara basically confirmed that to get a rinnegan, you first need a sharingan that has evolved to its maximum level (EMS), and you also need to have dna from the younger son (Hashiramas cells) and finally you need some trigger that will bring those together.

    So Naruto might be able to awaken rinnegan if someone implants an advanced sharingan into his head (since he is an Uzumaki and therefore already has the required body component), but I don't see how he might awaken rinnegan otherwise.

    In theory, if MS will do and EMS is not required, we might get a scene where Kakashi dies and his last wish is for Naruto to take his sharingan to help Naruto defeat the bad guys, but other than that, I don't really see how it would happen.

    Well, maybe if Naruto somehow ends up as the Juubi jinchuuriki. Its been speculated that the original sage actually got his eyes from that. But I don't really see how Naruto would end up as the Juubi jin either.
     
  16. Aerylife

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    Fuck that I don't want Naruto to get the Rinnegan, there is enough dick sucking of the fancy eye patterns :/
     
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    Well... I've been waiting and hoping for a major character death for ages, and now that I've got my wish, I'm kind of wishing it had been someone else.

    I had been really looking forward to seeing some more of what Neji has learned since the time skip. He used to be a badass on a similar level to Sasuke, but since the beginning of Shippuden he just fell off the radar almost completely. And now he's dead. Bah. With the zombie!Hizashi being introduced at the war's beginning, I had thought it a certainty that we'd eventually see Neji in action again. Alas, it was not meant to be.

    Definitely seems like Kishi is going for a Naruto + Hinata pairing now, given Neji's comments. If that is to be the case, it's interesting that this was Naruto's first interaction with Hiashi.

    In any case, it was nice to see at least something from the Hyuuga clan, even if their 'new' technique was pretty much just two Kaiten being performed next to each other at the same time. Way to be creative, Kishimoto :facepalm
     
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    I am satisfied with this chapter. Knowing that, I will not nitpick it, for then I would surely find something to dislike, and that defeats the purpose of liking it.
     
  19. Vincent

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    I don't think there is a difference. The move was named Kaiten in the panel they used it. It's possible that it's just a foreign nickname for the jutsu.
     
  20. Knyght

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    I believe it's general term describing the Hyuuga's method of deflecting incoming attacks and moving in for a counter-attack with their Byakugan and Gentle Fist. So not a specific jutsu but a name for their overall style of movement or something, I think.
     
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