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Naruto Manga Thread

Discussion in 'Books and Anime Discussion' started by Verse of Darkness, Feb 17, 2007.

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  1. Aerylife

    Aerylife Not Equal

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    It's fucking nonsense Bijuu chakra is supposed to be poisonous, yet it goes through Naruto and gets purified? Also since when can Naruto control his chakra well enough to transfer it to others? I really wouldn't mind if Madara just started slaughtering the shinobi army right about now this ass-pull really pissed me off :/
     
  2. Knyght

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    The Kyuubi's chakra was toxic because it was tied to his hatred and malice. The closest example is how Sasuke's own hatred has been steadily corrupting his chakra's nature. When Naruto seperated Kurama's will from his chakra, it became pure and untainted so it was safe to use. After that, Kurama himself was changed by devouring Naruto's own untainted chakra and letting go of his own hatred from the various events taking place.

    Generally speaking, Naruto's chakra control hasn't been a real problem for years and it's likely that this method of transferring chakra is easy to do. Just not one that people other than bijuu and jinchuuriki seem to be capable of.
     
  3. Datakim

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    The whole bijuu chakra being poisonous was never true. Or rather, the current canon says that the reason it was so toxic was because it responds to to emotions of the bijuu in question. So Kyuubis chakra was toxic, because Kyuubi himself was fucking pissed at the way he had been treated by humans. It was not inherently bad.

    The fact that the original Sage created the nine bijuu, and that the Sage has been shown to basically be a good guy pretty much confirms that this version of canon was probably true pretty early in shippudeen (since the whole plot of the manga depends on the nine bijuu having been separated from Juubi by the Sage). Why would the Sage, who literally imagined the bijuu into existence and apparently viewed the bijuu basically as his children, make their chakra in any way naturally poisonous to humans? He would not.

    Bottom line, Kyuubis chakra being compatible with humans is not in any way wrong. Heck, its probably the default state Kyuubi had when he was born, and it shifted to the toxic one after being enslaved and tortured by humans. You could certainly argue that Kyuubi forgave humans way too quickly and easily and it should have taken Naruto a lot more to convince Kyuubi to let go of his hatred (and make the chakra non-toxic again as a result), but thats a totally separate debate.

    As for Naruto having the skill to mold Kyuubis chakra. Well, it is worth pointing out that its been established that the seal has been transferring and altering Kyuubis chakra into Naruto throughout Narutos entire life. So I for one don't have a problem with Naruto being able to easily and instinctively control energy that has been an integral part of him throughout his entire life.

    Heck, since Kushina was a jinchuuriki, Naruto was first exposed to Kyuubis chakra at the exact instant of conception. You might actually say that Naruto NOT being familiar with said chakra is what would be nonsense. He should be just as familiar with it as he is with his own.
     
  4. Aerylife

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    This is bleh, I hate the whole the Bijuu are just misunderstood not evil plot point. There chakra not being poisonous just tied to emotion is annoying and I dislike it, regardless of it being Canon. They used to be viewed as terrifying demons, now it looks like they are just connected to Nature in someway considering, the Kyuubi's power is compatible with Sage Mode.
     
  5. Aerylife

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    This is bleh, I hate the whole the Bijuu are just misunderstood not evil plot point. There chakra not being poisonous just tied to emotion is annoying and I dislike it, regardless of it being Canon. They used to be viewed as terrifying demons, now it looks like they are just connected to Nature in someway considering, the Kyuubi's power is compatible with Sage Mode.
     
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    Oh boy, it's Sasuke time again.

    *Tunes out Naruto for the next month or so.*
     
  8. Dark Syaoran

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    Best part of chapter was Lee and Naruto charging forward together. I dunno why, but I just thought that was really awesome. Like Lee and Naruto are mirroring Gai and Kakashi.
     
  9. Aerylife

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    Sigh Kishi is really dick sucking to the Naru/Hina fans atm.
     
  10. gullibleoats

    gullibleoats Seventh Year

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    You know what, I thought at first that Naruto's ability to give chakra was kind of stupid, but I guess it all makes sense.

    The ability to make everyone in your village a super soldier is a great skill to have as a Hokage.
     
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    The whole way through the last couple of chapter's all I've been able to do is think of him as some sort of super D&D cleric.
     
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    What was with the shoulder thing? It looked like Hinata used Juuken to... restore Naruto's bone? But Juuken is the taijutsu combat style that utilizes the "pressure points" of chakra, right?
     
  13. Glimmervoid

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    Basic Juuken doesn't target pressure points, only the advanced form used by Neji does. The basic form involves shoving your chakra into your opponent's Chakra Pathway System, injuring the organs which the pathways are linked. The advanced form involve targeting an opponents 'tenketsu' (that is, pressure points), allowing you to control how chakra moves through their body and even stop it entirely.

    At a guess, Hinata was doing the basic kind but in a slightly different way. She presumably used Juuken's ability to effect someone's internal bits to help rather than damage.
     
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    Anyone got a theory about where Sasuke and Orochimaru have gone to?

    I'm thinking it could be Uzushiogakure, but can't really say why they'd go there. I'm still a bit perplexed about what Sasuke even wants from Orochimaru.
     
  15. Knyght

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    If they were heading to Uzushio which is off the coast of Fire Country, I don't think we would have seen that panel with Konoha. They've either infilitrated Konoha or they're somewhere nearby.

    Perhaps it's the Naka Shrine where the Uchiha's tablet is.
     
  16. Sechrima

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    Are you sure it's Konoha? I was under the impression that the whole village had been annihilated by Nagato and then rebuilt (mostly with Yamato's Mokuton). That caption shows part of a crumbling, ruined village, not one freshly reconstructed.
     
  17. Knyght

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    I meant from the last chapter we saw a mostly reconstructed Konoha and Sasuke's group hanging out nearby. It would be strange for the first panel to show a clear shot of Konoha and then switch to Sasuke in a completely different place.

    In the recent chapter, I think those buildings in the distance are from Konoha whilst their immediate surrounding are the Naka Shrine that's been left in disrepair.
     
  18. kolya318

    kolya318 First Year

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    Harry potter vs Naruto
    Main Char: first work for their powers, later get free powerups(love vs Kyuubi brohood)
    Supporting 2: male supporter is a piece of shit(Sasuke vs Ron) intelligent female char, but HP's female is better tho(Sakura vs Hermione)
    The old sage guy: Both left their responsibility to be abused. Both start having useful information, but later teach very little.(dumbledore vs jiraya)
    Supporing villain: Introduced as a good char/bad char at the end of the series, but seemed evil/good earlier(Obito vs Snape.)
    Main Villain: has a bullshit soul related method of keeping him alive. (Voldy vs Madara)
    Romantic interest: Even though Naruto was infamous she still liked (him. Because Harry was famous she liked him (Hinata vs Ginny)
    Plot points: dead family comes and supports the main char(Naruto vs Harry)
    Lots more too long to list.
    Continuity: both have little continuity: in one, a weak supporting character beats the right hand of the main villain( Molly vs Bellatrix)
    In the second, the supporting 2 male char(Sasuke)
    Many more but Sasuke is good enough.

    So did JK Rowling and M Kishimoto take classes in unsatisfying endings together or?
     
  19. Howdy

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    I think she just fixed his dislocated shoulder by popping it back in.
     
  20. kolya318

    kolya318 First Year

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    Despite the fact I would rather have chouji as Hokage(at least everyone gets berbecure) you are right that it would make him a good Hokage.

    I am okay(not happy) with the fox powerups but don't say it makes sense. It's an asspull ability that came out of nowhere. They do explanations on it, but its like ME3's synthesis ending. It comes from nowhere and everyone on the hero's side gets superpowers.
     
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