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Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Quick Ben, Feb 1, 2012.

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  1. T3t

    T3t Purple Beast of DLP ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    It can't be missing supporters, iirc there were only three who Voldemort said didn't show up, and maybe a dozen who did.
     
  2. mknote

    mknote 1/3 of the Note Bros. DLP Supporter

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    It's nice to see that you have an open mind when it comes to opposing viewpoints.

    Did you consider my interpretation? Just because he could do this doesn't necessarily mean he would. I think it's rather apparent, given Voldemort's intellect, that he considered this option and dismissed it for one reason or another; to think that he didn't think of this is a rather egregious disservice to his character. So the question really is, why did is discard this option?

    I always prefer to have an in-universe explanation of things; saying the author fucked up just isn't satisfying to me.
     
  3. T3t

    T3t Purple Beast of DLP ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    There's not a single instance in canon where we are shown that Voldemort is competent (as opposed to being told via dialogue, which is rather unconvincing when faced with actual evidence).
     
  4. Addarash

    Addarash Second Year

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    Couldn't he simply inflict injuries onto Harry's body to make them resemble that of one of the creatures in the maze eg. a Skrewt or sphinx? Sirius did also state in OoTP that Harry had ruined his plan by coming back alive and informing people; thus it would seem that he wanted to remain in secrecy from the beginning.

    Edit: Quote from the dinner scene in the Order Headquarters.

    'You weren't supposed to survive!' said Sirius. 'Nobody apart from his Death Eaters was supposed to know he'd come back. But you survived to bear witness.'
     
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  5. Henry Persico

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    That's not entirely true. You're forgetting Severus Snape. Lord Voldemort's secret return would have been screwed by the spy regardless of Harry's survival or death.
     
  6. Addarash

    Addarash Second Year

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    Well, it's not like Voldemort knows that. His intention would still have been to remain in secrecy.
     
  7. Philo Vance

    Philo Vance Fourth Year

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    I didn't mean it literally, but now I cannot stop imagining Dumbledore as the HEART guy from captain planet. With a beard.
     
  8. AlbusPHolmes

    AlbusPHolmes The Alchemist

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    Does the polyjuice potion work on muggles? I remember Lupin telling Hagrid that it was meant for human use only, not half-giants. Is it ever stated that it's just for magicals and not muggles?
     
  9. Bill Door

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    It worked when they used the hair from a muggle, so I don't think it makes any difference of they're magical or not.
     
  10. Evon

    Evon Seventh Year

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    So I've recently reread Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's/Philosopher's Stone.

    I haven't read it in quite some time, so when I got to the part about Quirrell jinxing Harry's broom I found myself a bit puzzled. We see very few examples of wandless magic in the book, yet this moment appears to be one.

    Now, I'm all good with the concept of wandless magic. What puzzled me is the idea of 'muttering nonstop' and 'You've got to keep eye contact'. Fanon clearly depicts wandless magic differently - usually a lot of hand gesturing and whatnot. So this gave me pause, but then as I began to think about it, Legilimency came to mind.

    I got me wondering if the required eye contact for a jinx is necessary in that the eyes somehow focus magic, or is just that it's easier to curse something, when you're looking at it? But if the latter is the case, why not watch what you're attempting to jinx out of the corner of your eye? It would be less conspicuous.
     
  11. Skeletaure

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    I think this one requires an out-of-book explanation. At the time of writing JKR hadn't finalised many parts of the HP world and there are several aspects of magic in PS that never reappear. Curses being an extended affair and requiring visual contact is one such thing (another is unaided flight - Hagrid flew to the hut on the rock. Quirrel's wandless magic is a third).

    If you really want an in-book explanation, you could say that the word curse seems to be used in several different ways. Firstly, and predominantly, it refers to a powerful offensive spell cast in the moment intended to cause damage immediately. However, other types of curses exist - curses that lie on objects, for example, or even on the teaching position. These seem to be somewhat more obscure. This broom jinx could come under that banner.
     
  12. Ched

    Ched Da Trek Moderator DLP Supporter ⭐⭐

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    I thought he took a boat out there. I know they took one going back, but did they just take Vernon's boat and leave the Dursley family out there?
     
  13. Skeletaure

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    Yup XD

    >filler<
     
  14. Evon

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    Didn't that flying bit reappear in Deathly Hallows. IIRC, Voldemort was flying over Europe or some such nonsense. How Hagrid pulled that particular bit of magic off though...

    As for your in-book explanation, I can accept that.
     
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    Remind me, as I don't remember: it doesn't matter which part of the body is added to the polyjuice potion, right?
    One could use a drop of blood instead of hair, right?
     
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    I believe Hagrid's flight has been ret-conned to be a thestral.
     
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    And I thought it was Sirius's bike that he used - and that he didn't use it on the way back because he didn't have/hadn't made the sidecar for his passenger, Harry.
     
  18. Glimmervoid

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    I have to admit, I do have an image in my head of Hagrid flying using his umbrella, Mary Poppins style. If the umbrella was enchanted with a Flying Charm (like that used on brooms) it might even be canon compliant.
     
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    Nightmares, this is the stuff of nightmares. Poppins was creep enough on her own without imagining Hagrid in her place. :fire
     
  20. Joe's Nemesis

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    That's almost signature worthy right there.
     
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