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Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Dark Minion, Feb 9, 2013.

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  1. Materia-Blade

    Materia-Blade First Year

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    I was sent here at the recommendation of Innomine. As such some of this message is copy/pasted from my conversation with him.

    So the general gist is that people are worried about the Diablo Cross. Hmm. Well can't do much about that anymore.

    "...this fic began as a pet peeve. I was utterly fed up with the fact that I could not find ONE fic with a soul bond in it that even came close to readable. Every single one was an utter crapfest. My goal was to show that not only could it be done right, it could be downright enjoyable. That said, I kinda figured I'd get bored with JUST a soul bond which is why I began to pepper the story with cameos.

    It wasn't even supposed to be a main project. Just a bit of side work while I tried to drum up motivation for another story I've got. I don't want to say it was a crack fic, but it wasn't meant to be taken seriously at first.

    It somehow managed to take over all of my attention though. I didn't expect it to ever reach DLP level. I'm kinda ecstatic that it was enjoyed [here]."

    Yeah. Its probably heavily influenced by Anime. *Shrug.* I'm unapologetic about this.

    The Diablo cross developed as an inherent belief that Voldemort, while relatively awesome on his own, just isn't enough. His underlings are often utterly destroyed by Harry within the first three or four chapters of any HP action fic. The giant gap between the awesome evil that is Voldemort and the... frankly pussified evil that is Lucius is too great.

    There is magic in this world. I feel like an army of demons is the perfect counter to such an OP tool. I could be wrong but I don't think I am.

    As to where the plots going. Well... I hope I don't fuck it up but I can assure you it's probably not what you're expecting.

    Innomine has suggested I put up new stuff in the Work by Author section and I'm definitely considering it. Was kinda worried about just getting hellaflamed for posting my own soul bond fic just because people wouldn't be able to get around the idea enough to read it. I still get reviews to the effect of "What the fuck? A soul bond fic that doesn't suck? Weird..."

    Anyway. I do hope the plot I have in mind doesn't disappoint. If it does... well meh. Heh heh. Its still fun to write.
     
  2. Innomine

    Innomine Alchemist ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    So, is this intended to be a HP/Diablo crossover completely? That actually sounds really interesting to me. The main concern I had was that you'd just steal bits and pieces from other fandoms, and go from there. But if you have a planned out crossover between the two worlds, it could actually be quite interesting.

    How much of this do you actually have plotted out?

    Welcome, by the way.
     
  3. Materia-Blade

    Materia-Blade First Year

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    Oh I have rough plans all the way to the end. Some are subject to change based on whim but the final ending and the most important events planned are usually non-negotiable.

    I've got... I dunno. It's probably a quarter done so a bit of a ways to go. Five or six heavy main events in wait.

    Originally It was just a cameo (explaining why this isn't in the crossover section) but I liked the idea and angle. The plot became concrete after chapter three.

    Heh thanks for the welcome!
     
  4. elemsky7

    elemsky7 First Year

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    Yes, I think that's probably what I enjoy about it which is the whole story plot is there from beginning to end. Anyway, I guess off the board now? Or moved to Almost Recommended as suggested.
     
  5. Jeram

    Jeram Elder of Zion ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Yes and no.

    Myrddin was a possibly fictional bard/prophet, and "Myrddin" is just the original Welsh version of the name, which was modified to "Merlin" in "Latinized" English. You are right that Ambrosius and Myrddin were conflated to make the fictional "Myrddin Emrys" or "Merlin Ambrosius". I don't think it's unreasonable to call Merlin by one of those names, except that in modern Hogwarts times, they don't. Because Merlin seems to only have one name, it seems weird to give him a different name. I'd say that because both are clearly not Merlin in the wizarding world, it makes sense not to use them.

    Also, the whole Slytherin thing makes no sense, but I think I'm preaching to the choir on that one. Whoever wrote/approved that for Pottermore (JKR not excluded) was being stupid. Hogwarts was founded around 1000 AD, and the Arthurian legends were based on stories 500 years before that. Ridiculous.
     
  6. Andrela

    Andrela Plot Bunny DLP Supporter

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    One could assume that in the Potterverse the history was different and as such the legends are different.
     
  7. Materia-Blade

    Materia-Blade First Year

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    To Sorting Things Out?

    I read this in about twenty minutes and I've decided the writing is okay. Grammatically, spelling-wise. Other than that, I could hardly even call it a HP fic. The author's thought premise was "Okay. I like the idea of Harry Potter but frankly it would be better if...[Creates completely different story]"

    The idea behind it wasn't bad. Okay. The hat can go back and resort if it decides the future sucks.
    Okay. Why not say... oh... I dunno. 1940? When Voldemort first shows up and throw that bowl cut bastard into Gryffindor to avoid the whole mess?

    The sorting hat can do this... on a whim? Who's to say he hasn't done it hundreds of times and HP is one of many many fuckups the Sorting hat has issued?

    The plot is built on sand.

    That and the telling v. showing issue kill it. I've seen stories that were all tell and no show, but still managed to be at least a little engaging. This sort of reads like a newspaper obituary. Didn't notice an error but was bored with the concept. It feels more like a prologue than an actual story.

    ---------- Post automerged 03-12-2013 at 03:15 AM ---------- Previous post was 03-11-2013 at 10:43 PM ----------

    Title: Warrior's Heir
    Author: Osireia
    Pairing: None
    Rating: T
    Words: 164,771
    Published: 23 Jun 08
    Updated: 17 Jul 12
    Link: http://www.fanfiction.net/s/4343191/1/Warrior-s-Heir
    Story Summary: Harry is thrown into a world where purebloods are condemned, Tom Riddle is the Boy Who Lived, and the Dark Lord is someone he'd never suspect. Will his emerging abilities be enough? Should he support Riddle - or the Dark Lord? No slash.

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    This fic was thrown in the library under fics that didn't quite make the cut on this site already but I couldn't find the traffic that sent it there. In the hopes that it has updated and changed since its trashing I wanted to put it up here as its one of my favorites.

    Features a competent slightly AU though still heavily canon influenced Harry. Not superpowered but awakening abilities are present.

    The main selling point of this story is the other world's Dark Lord Harry. I was utterly impressed by the originality of him, and by how, in an entirely different world Tom Riddle and Dark Lord Harry are so very 'in character.'

    Hadrian doesn't win over his followers with fear as Voldemort does but rather an ability to inspire loyalty. A Gryffindor Dark Lord. Frankly I thought the concept was awesome.

    If its wrong for me to post this here and the Recycling bin is a final ending then I apologize for that and feel free to kick me in the face. Heh. Just wanted to contribute.
     
  8. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Well, Hogwarts may be older than we think. We're only ever told it was founded "around" 1000 years ago, and it sounds like that's a line that people have been delivering for some time (1000 is such a nice round number). It's possible it's a couple hundred years older than that.
     
  9. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    Do we have to play 'spot the problem'? :|

    The obvious answer is that Harry defeating Death Eaters is nonsense. The solution when a thing's got its first half broken is not to break the second one as well, but to fix the first one. Harry is a student. The others are full-grown, powerful wizards. He'll lose, and badly. The conclusion to be drawn from your example is that most "HP actions fics" are completely stupid, not that moar awesoem is needed.

    This is actually one reason why I dislike crossovers. Throwing random stuff into the mix to fix whatever is bad, but when you call it a 'crossover', suddenly, it's alright.

    No, it's not. If you are unable to write a story with only Canon elements, you certainly can't do it by adding more non-Canon elements. It just becomes a huge mess.


    As for the WBA ... there might be some of those comments, but mostly, I'd think you'd find a lack of comments. I know I'm not going to read it because I don't care for reading about Hermione, and now the crossover stuff. Others might feel the same about the soul-bond.

    Still, give it a try. If you feel it's not worth it, you can always stop posting it there.
     
  10. wordhammer

    wordhammer Dark Lord DLP Supporter

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    Original thread is here: https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?t=12866

    Rating shows that it qualifies for the Recycling Bin and not the Trash Bin, but such distinctions aren't usually enough to make it worthwhile to ask a Mod to correct it. Forum tip- if an internal search by story ID doesn't bring up the thread, try using Google like so:

    4343191 site:forums.darklordpotter.net
     
  11. Skeletaure

    Skeletaure Magical Core Enthusiast ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I don't have any problem with the idea of a talented student beating an average Death Eater. I mean, the difference between a 5th year and a Death Eater is only 2 years of education, and I'd wager that there are a number of talented 5th years who could beat average 7th years in duels or contests of magical skill.

    That said, I'm not sure if canon Harry could be described as talented.
     
  12. Materia-Blade

    Materia-Blade First Year

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    Didn't actually realize there was a difference. My bad! Reading through the page now, and thanks for the tip! I did try the search tool for the author's name but only came up with the recycling bin link and nothing else.
     
  13. Scrib

    Scrib The Chosen One

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    EDIT:never mind, might as well not
     
  14. mknote

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    God damnit, I was gonna post this. I've been following this fic for a while now, and I really like it. Unlike wordhammer, though, I'd like to see it in the Recycling Bin, if only so I can add my own review to it. So... could somebody move it, please?
     
  15. Dark Minion

    Dark Minion Bright Henchman DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    Yes, they are. And the moving goes both ways - there is quite a bit of movement in the library. This one was trashed back in 2009 - and might have been up-rated later.

    Yes, I moved it.
     
  16. wordhammer

    wordhammer Dark Lord DLP Supporter

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    Originally Posted by wordhammer [​IMG]
    Original thread is here: https://forums.darklordpotter.net/sh...ad.php?t=12866

    Rating shows that it qualifies for the Recycling Bin and not the Trash Bin, but such distinctions aren't usually enough to make it worthwhile to ask a Mod to correct it.



    I'm glad to hear it, and didn't intend to step on toes (nor diss the story, since I haven't read it). I didn't realize a story could get upvotes from within the Trash Bin- thought it was locked.
     
  17. Fell Fire

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    I would like to put up this duology. I think it could probably make it into the recycling bin, but there are enough cliches and similar issues (H/G, a super!Harry) that it I'm not surprised I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere.

    Title: The Shadows of Silence
    Author: Myth & Legend
    Pairing: H/G, Hr/R
    Words: 113,891
    Completed: July 20, 2004
    Link: http://www.phoenixsong.net/fanfiction/story/622/
    Summary: Could you live with Death? Could you love with honour? Could you learn with pride? Can he? Find out as Harry enters his sixth year, and the world becomes a more treacherous place for the Boy Who Lived.

    In particular, I have to recommend the last few chapters of the first part, as doing things that I haven't seen in another story. For those of you put off by the pairing, it literally does not come up until the last couple paragraphs of that part.

    Title: Eternity Lost
    Author: Myth and Legend
    Pairing: H/G, Hr/R
    Words: 109, 971
    Completed: March 28, 2005
    Link: http://www.phoenixsong.net/fanfiction/story/1679/
    Summary: Sequel to Shadows Of Silence: Can The Boy Who Lived find the courage to take on Voldemort and win? Harry must cope with his growing magic, the power of the Dark Lord and the trials of his final year, will he survive?

    The second part is not as good, although it still holds up for something from almost a decade ago. Harry gets to close to being all-powerful for my current tastes, Voldemort is not active enough, but in all, I think it is more than worth the read.

    Spelling and grammar is good, with only a few mistakes that I noticed on a re-read, and a chapter's odd frequent misspelling of lightning. And the Latin is utter garbage, but so rare as to be ignorable.

    Characterization is one of the stories' strengths. There is no bashing and the characters generally act in a manner that makes sense. The only one I'm not satisfied with is Draco Malfoy, who is barely in more than a couple scenes.

    I would rate it around 4.5/5; certainly part of that is nostalgia.
     
  18. Perspicacity

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    I suspect that either most of that is nostalgia or else you're not out of Taure's first stage of fanfiction reading. There are a few phoenixsong stories that might be enjoyed by the Dlp rank and file, but these probably aren't among them.

    Still, Kudos for posting here and getting a sense of community tastes before putting the stories up for review.
     
  19. Shouldabeenadog

    Shouldabeenadog Death Eater

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    Taure has stages of fanfiction reading? Oh god, I'm being classified just by asking aren't I?
     
  20. melior

    melior Seventh Year

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    Link? I enjoyed the Canon+ document I found on FFnet but I couldn't find that.
     
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