From my point of view, RC seemed OP. Or maybe Zennith fucked up bad for town with his Dresden reveal.

Fix the mechanics or at least explain them better. I expected that any thralls that would die would no longer give protection to the WK. Which is why in case Moridin was WK I expected one of Rubicon or Sesc to die if he did not.

Also, I might have fucked up with that reveal at the end. Seemed like a good idea at that time.

Well played, everyone.

 

Thanks, Fontisian, Riley and Sesc. Good game all, sorry it devolved into something else in the end.

Also, one thing. If Marcone + 2 reds survive, Marcone wins? I thought the Reds need to kill/turn everyone to win, and as such that situation implies an autokill for Marcone.

I've been operating for some time now under the assumption that Marcone only benefits from siding with the White Court. This... actually works better, yeah.

I'd play it again, but with a few tweaks to the rules to keep it interesting. Honestly, I'd say that the Red Court is a touch overpowered, but most of my complaints (which, admittedly, stem from a WC perspective) are nullified by thralls persisting after death, which is something I didn't know would happen.

As far as flavour is concerned, I'd only say that it should reveal nothing at all. One night visit or a dozen should show up as the same. Ditto for anything happening at night revealed in the thread at large. That may just be my opinion, but I think it adds a little mystery to the game, especially given there are very few possible visits and actions.

Yeah, Castiel, I too expected Sesc to take the hit for me, to be honest. That one could have done with a bit of elaboration.

Edit: Game's over, I guess we can edit now. <_<

 

Yes, about flavor, just mention whether a person was visited or not. If you keep distinctive flavor people will just figure out what everything means after one game. So you may as well be up front with them instead of alluding to what has happened.

 

So LochNess was visited in the night.

 

Actually, I figured you were Marcone because it didn't make sense for Rubicon to be Marcone. If Rubicon was Marcone, all he had to do was not cleanse, and let the WC exist for one more night, and he would have won (alongside me). You, on the other hand, were already tainted, and since you didn't know about LochNess, were afayk first on the list if I was targeted. As such, it made sense for you to want to remove that noose. Post 63 in my QT.

Granted, a lot of the assumptions I made about Marcone's game outside of that one point stemmed from my idea that he couldn't possibly win with the Reds, and so it made no sense for him to aim at me.

 

Make it so that, Thrall dies: Protection dies. How can a dead thrall take a hit?

And try to liven up your day-end/day-start posts. I am partial to Eido's stuff.

Dat Timer.

EDIT: It might also help if the King and Queen can not confirm each other's identities via game mechanics.

 

Actually it should be impossible for RC to win if Dresden isn't stupid. Dresden claims himself D1, or anytime really, and protects himself. Suddenly immortal town player, RC already lose the game.

I genuinely think that Town are the strongest faction, we just horribly misplayed the game. The Molly reveal was a bad idea for two reasons. One it's not actually that strong a role, all it is really capable of doing is townfirming a person, but we used it to hunt scum instead, leading to shenanigans such as lynching Zennith, which resulted in the Dresden claim clusterfuck, and suddenly all our power roles are dead for zero gain. Secondly, it neuters the Dresden role which if played right should be horribly overpowered.

Different rules. Multiple scum factions is a bad idea as they have to kill each other off in order to win, so town should be able to win by just letting them fight amongst themselves and cleaning up after. Also it leads to shit like what Castiel tried to pull which is just hella gay. One scum faction can just fuck over the other ensuring they both lose.

The Marcone role is both very weak and very strong, depending too heavily on random chance. I'd rework that role in some way to remove the pure luck element from it. Also the role lends itself to lurking and just boring gameplay in general as all they really have to do is sit and watch everyone else fight each other.

Dresden shouldn't be able to protect himself because that's way too easy to abuse and it should shut down the RC.

I think that a lot of the inactivity was down to the most experienced or vocal town players mostly dying early. The need for replacements and whatnot didn't really help either.


In general then rules weren't very clear, or easy to understand There was too much information that wasn't included in the stat of game post, like the order of night actions.


There was some other stuff that I wanted to rant about but I've forgotten it now.

Anyway, thanks for running the game.

 

I fuckin' told you guys I was vanilla day 1.

 

Rubicon how was I visited in the night? Wouldn't it have been in my QT? That's what I was checking...
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/tCWG7vsBFAnC

 

I just read Sesc's QT. :awesome

post 4 in your QT: "I deeply apologize for this but I completely forgot to let you know that there was a strange visit in the night but you can't remember the face of your visitor. Again, sorry. I'm kinda run ragged right now with IRL stuff too."

 

Yes, it is. Post 4 in your QT, it was posted late.

And Sesc, the idea of Marcone cleansing himself for the sake of not being obliged to a dead faction didn't really occur to me. I mean, it makes sense given that if the WC is dead your power is useless (something else to work on), so you might as well give it a shot.

I didn't know Marcone was still alive until after the cleansing, anyway. Before that point, I had just dismissed the idea of LochNess being Marcone in favour of simple inactivity. As such, reaching out to an ally whose potential worth was not all that much at the time and who could be dead wasn't worth the exposure.

 

Well, I fucked up bad. I hoped that by roleclaiming and then living through the night I could continue to stay alive, but whatev. I fucked up baddddd.