No I got that, but

Spoiler

http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/629/14
on the bottom left panel, it seemed like he was activating a genjutsu, because on page fifteen and sixteen
http://www.mangapanda.com/naruto/629/16
it seems like he is playing with Kakashi's head. It could also be just a flashback, but to me it seemed like it was genjutsu.

 

It wasn't all bad I liked about the explanation of Rin's death.

 

The more Obito talks, the less sense he makes to me.

 

Yeah, I think it was Genjutsu as well. There was a close up shot of the Sharingan just before.

Also, I'm actually thankful that Kishi kept the flashback to a minimum.

It also looks like Hashirama-Naruto won't happen...which makes me sad.

 

Hey when Naruto was looking at juubi there was rinnegan in the background. Do you think it means anything? Like Naruto getting Rinnegan?

 

I thought of it as from the Juubi's perspective; Naruto reminding him of the Sage. That or just a metaphorical image of Naruto inheriting the Sage's will via the Bijuu.

 

So Rin was a Jinchuuriki and they let her go on the off chance that she'll release the Sanbi to destroy the village? And Rin believed it?

Well, ok.

 

Seems obvious that it was designed to activate when they triggered it, open automatically when she entered Konoha or open after a time limit. And I don't think it was certain if she knew she'd been turned into a jinchuuriki or if she only knew they'd done something to her.

 

No, Mist captured Rin, sealed the Sanbi inside her and then let her 'escape'. Once she made it back the Leaf village, they planed to unleash the Sanbi, causing lots of damage.

Given that Mist did the sealing I seriously doubt there was any 'off chance' involved. My money's on some kind of remotely activated unseal. As soon as she was back, they make the correct hand seal, the seal holding the Sanbi dissolves and it breaks loose. I would be very surprised the seal they gave her even let her use the Sanbi's power.

 

Having a hard time buying it. I mean Kushina was still around, and if she could use her chains to bind Kyuubi (a far more powerfull bijuu) after giving birth and then having said Kyuubi ripped out of her, then really should she basically not have been able to stop Sanbi with literally no effort?

Add to this the fact that Minato was apparently extremely skilled in fuuinjutsu, and that Kushina too was highly skilled, and it seems to me that there would have been a strong possibility that they could basically have blocked whatever activation signal the Mist had in place. Or just plain replaced the boobytrapped Mist jinchuuriki seal with a new proper seal to give Konoha another jinchuuriki.

I mean for example, why could Minato not have just teleported to Rin the moment she came close to the village, and then just replaced the seal the Mist used with the same seal he used to bind Kyuubi? With Sanbi already trapped (for the moment) inside Rin, there would have been no need for anyone to kill themselves.

Or the Uchiha clan (who were ALL still around) could have just took control of Sanbi with the sharingan. Obito easily controlled Sanbi later when it was inside a host (which seems to give protection to the bijuu). Am I really expected to believe that the combined Uchiha clan could not have done the same? Especially if the thing managed to escape Rin (and the jinchuuriki protection).

The whole Mist plan just seems plain stupid. Unless they knew for sure that Konohas top sealers such as Minato and Kushina were somewhere else, then sending Rin with Sanbi inside her to Konoha would not just have failed to do ANY damage, but would have given Sanbi to Konoha permanently.

Rin was a moron for killing herself like that, rather than trusting that the top S-class Shinobi Konoha was full of at the time to fix her with a better seal.

 

Possibly, but it was still her choice to die. Kakashi didn't support it, so in the end we'll never know how effective trying to save her would have been. There's a good chance that Rin would die when the Sanbi was released anyways, so she chose to minimize the damage by dying in the field rather than risk any damage to Konoha.

 

Not to mention that as I recall Kushina's bijuu-binding abilities and jinchuriki status were top-secret at that point. Heck, by all indications the existence of jinchuriki in general (let alone all the specifics of how they worked) was not exactly common knowledge in Konoha.

Always important to remember that characters have to act on what they know in-universe—they don't know everything the audience is privy to.

 

Exactly. Rin didn't even know how the Hiraishin worked, how could she know just how skilled Minato really was?

"Hey, you know your sensei? The fast, girly looking man? Not only can he teleport, but he can wtf!pwn Bijuu too."

 

@Datakim: I think you're looking at this too much from the perspective of a reader instead of someone from Hidden Mist.

Does anyone from Mist know about Kushina's chakra chains? Or Minato's ability to seal off a tailed beast inside minutes? How would Minato even know they need that seal ready?

Does anyone outside of Konoha know about the Sharingan's ability to control the tailed beast? It has really only been mentioned by others that Hashirama could stop the beasts, but nothing about the Sharingan from other villages.

Do we even know exactly what the Mist's seal would do? I mean, it could be a dead man's switch or even just trigger at the first sign of tampering. Hell, it could trigger on first try to access tailed beast chakra or any amount of signals we aren't aware of.

Frankly, there's not enough solid into to know for sure it'd be a completely stupid idea from Mist's perspective.

I mean, to us it'd be pretty stupid but we kind of have insider and future info.

 

Its not really a bad Plan...Kiri Ninja know that Every Village know how to seal Bijuu, and since Konoha was the very village to hand them out, they would have extremely powerful ones. After some damage by the sanbi, Kiri would have their Bijuu back because Konoha technically stole Rin from Kiri, and Politics demands it.

Obito himself told us that Madara was the Sandaime Mizukage, and The Mizukage was the one who ordered the Sanbi into Rin.
Edit: So Obito joined Madara for the sake of doing his own thing, He had no intention of helping Madara, But Kabuto resurrected him.

 

Yeah thats a good point. As Cxjenious pointed out, she apparently did not even know that her teacher Minato was not using standard Shunsin.

It is true that from a POV of a chuunin(?) ignorant of jinchuuriki and bijuu, she probably would have had no reason not to assume that she was not a terrible danger.

Though it was pointed out in another forum that committing suicide via Kakashi was a pretty cruel thing to do. Why could she not have just grabbed a kunai and committed suicide herself? She was a medic so surely she would not have known where to strike to achieve a quick and even pretty painless death.

Why did she need to force Kakashi into watching her die at his hands and probably screw his head permanently?

 

Yeah. Its not like the Land of Fire is a small place. Surely there is some barren area of land somewhere where there are no innocent bystanders, but which is still deep enough and so far away from Mist that they could not follow. Go there.

Another point. Presumably she would know nothing of Bijuu, so she would not know that simply slitting her wrists would work. Actually, that only makes her actions worse.

For all she knew, the moment Kakashi used Raikiri, Sanbi would burst from her dead body and instantly kill him too. Unless she was planning some mutual lovers suicide kind of deal with Kakashi, she should actually have tried to kill herself as far AWAY from Kakashi as possible.

 

Also on the self-suicide note: She was mentioned to be a medic nin. Presumably she knew the chakra scalpel technique, which with just a simple touch to the head or heart would cause near-instant painless death. She didn't even need a kunai.