It's the first. It looks different because he wears a coat.

 

Heh I used to think Sasuke being Hokage in (fan)fiction was bad writing and now...

I still think it is bad come to think of it.

Still to all those people that I have flamed over this very issue I would like to say I am sorry, that you guys were more foresighted than me and I in my ignorance declared that wouldn't make sens... Okey can't do that with straight face either

fuck you kishimoto.

 

This chapter had many good parts, and only a couple of bad ones. Hokages are always win, and they get more so every time they appear. Hashirama/Madara and Minato, just awesome.

Bad parts were Sasuke and Sakura. If he actually becomes Hokage I will rage, but plot wise, it's not a terrible move. Sasuke only swore destruction to the Leaf in a phase of general rage, and he is a teenagers. Those things come and go.
He should by no means become Hokage though.

 

You know, that whole "Kyuubi's sentience was sealed in Naruto," thing makes no sense, when you realize that Naruto has the Yang (Physical, Masculine, Aggressive) part of the Kyuubi. You'd think Kurama's sentience would be part of the Yin chakra (Spiritual/Mental, Feminine, Passive). Hrmm, unless there is a Yin-Kurama, it's just that one is nicer...meh.

Anyway, Sasuke saying he'll become Hokage. Hrmmm, it both makes a tad bit of sense, and at the same time doesn't. It makes sense from the perspective that's already been given, but the thing is...why would Sasuke need to become Hokage himself to do that? Sasuke probably knows Naruto better than most, even after not being around him much for 3+ years and knows that Naruto would probably change the village for the better. Or hell, he could just mention that Naruto should do this or that, and he would, because Naruto's a fucking idiot like that in those kind of situations.

Even from an angle where Sasuke said it purely as a way to re-spark his rivalry with Naruto, it doesn't make much sense. It'd be completely unneeded!

Ugh, Kishimoto, why do you do this to your story?

You know, at this point, I should probably say that I only read this to finish it, but that'd be a lie. I have no idea how, but I can still enjoy it, at least while I read it. The moment I stop, and start to think about it, this kind of stuff always comes to mind.

 

Fuck all of you guys, the Hashirama panel makes this entire thing 10/10.

 

No no, the Madara panel does that.


So good.

 

Right. I realized a few things.

There was at least some foreshadowing to Minato's KCM. When Tsunade and A were trying to stop Naruto in his fancy-dancy new Kyuubi Cloak, he kept up with the Raikage, leading to a comparison to the 'Yellow Flash.' Now, I had taken that as a 'he's just as fast', or 'like his father' comparison, but I guess it could be taken as a comparison of techniques. Even though Minato got the moniker because he moved so fast all you could usually see was the yellow of his hair.

The problem with thinking that Minato having a sentience-less mass of Kyuubi chakra though, is that we've seen--twice--that chakra has an intelligence attached to it. That's how Minato and Kushina managed to get their special moments with Naruto. Now maybe it was an isolated incident relevant to that specific circumstance, but consider this: Chakra is composed of physical energy drawn from the cells of your body, and spiritual energy drawn from you will and experiences--or your soul, depending on how you want to look at it. And having the entire half of Kyuubi's chakra that is composed of that spiritual energy leads me to believe that there is an intelligence attached to it.

There's no way that any training could have been done in the Shinigami's stomach. That is supposed to be the equivalent of Hell--constant, ever-lasting, agonizing pain. There is no way for any conversations to be taking place or training to be done. Honestly, the Hokages shouldn't be even sane at this point. They've experienced years upon years of what took Kakashi out in a period of three days--physical pain and torture (via Tsukiyomi).

On Sakura: when's the last time we actually saw her fight? Seriously, against an opponent that she didn't have an emotional reason not to fight against? The last fight I can think of is way back at Sasori. Almost every other time she's been doing what practically nobody else can do--healing. Which is actually really important. We haven't really had an opportunity to see he go all-out for a very long time. Chances are that she could have some skills now. Wouldn't be too surprising.

 

I stopped caring about this manga years ago and now just read it to find out how this trainfuck will end, it'd be pretty nice though if Sakura got her shit together and slipped a knife between Sasuke's ribs, properly this time.

That pompous little turdstain's death has been long overdue.

 

There was a line about her having almost gathered enough chakra for some technique or another...is she going to pull some type of combat 'mode' out of nowhere?

 

Its a bit of a poor comparison though, since we know that Minatos speed was based on his ability to use hiraishin to literally teleport around, while Narutos speed was simply due to physically running really really fast due to the physical boost of KCM. Heck, I seem to recall there was a flashback of the Raikage vs Minato during that encounter, where it was explicitly shown that Minato avoided the Raikage by teleporting to a kunai rather than physically moving out of the way (which is what Naruto did).

That does not necessarily prove much. Minato and Kushina wanted and intended for that chakra to be intelligent. Its quite plausible that Minato actually sealed not just raw and pure chakra, but somekind of mental shadow clone into Naruto. In other words, those chakra imprints of Minato and Kushina were specifically designed to be that way.

Think about it, if all chakra was by its basic nature intelligent, then would that not mean that when Naruto creates a rasengan (which is solely composed of chakra), then that rasengan would be intelligent and aware too. However that is obviously not the case.

Having yin!Kurama be intelligent would also lead to other problems such as Kurama (who we have seen a lot off recently) not actually being the true Kurama. Not to mention that if 50% of Kuramas mind was taken away, then should there not have been some signs of it?

Thats how it works with humans. We don't actually know for sure if its the same for bijuu (who for example don't actually have true physical bodies/cells, but ones constructed from chakra like shadow clones). For example, we have Killer Bee (the best expert we have) state that the chakra of a bijuu is composed of "positive" and "negative" chakra. That is apparently some totally different form of chakra that humans don't have, which is presumably why normal humans can't create bijuudamas (bijuudama is composed of 8:2 ratio of positive:negative bijuu chakra)

So it would not actually be a contradiction if the yin-chakra in Minato has no sentience, because it is NOT human chakra and has no need to follow the same rules.

I get the feeling that the hokages don't remember anything about what happened in the stomach of the Shinigami. Consider the other edo zombies, none of them remember the afterlife. From their perspective, they just died and were then instantly resurrected. it might be that in the afterlife the souls are basically unconscious and don't actually interact or do anything, or maybe its not possible for someone in the physical world to remember their "life" in the afterlife. But the point is, edos don't remember what happened to them, so its consistent enough for the same to apply to the hokages. They are sane because they don't remember any of that torture now that they are in the physical world again.

Ironically, I think that would weaken her character at this point. If its shown that she has some super mode like slug Sage Mode or something like Tsunades super-regeneration, then the obvious question instantly comes up:

WHY did she not use that super-power to help Naruto when Pain was blowing the crap out of Konoha

WHY did she not use it against Sasuke, when Sasuke was about to kill her. Knock him out if she is too emotionally weak to kill him.

WHY was she sitting in some tent healing people, rather than using this super-power to take down edo-zombies so that there would be a lot less people hurt.

Any super-power for Sakura now that would make her equal to Naruto and Sasuke would make her look good for this fight, but at the cost of making her look utterly retarded in every previous panel prior to this.

 

So...

We've already seen before that Kurama's chakra when disassociated from him still produces the old style chakra cloak (Gold & Silver Brothers, but I guess that could be because they're not at peace with themselves) so are the forms afforded to Naruto and Minato by Kurama's chakra just relics of the Four Seasons Seal?

Then it would make sense that Minato could immediately produce that effect, he has an intimate knowledge of the seal. Presumably Naruto's Kyuubi-mode thing is still a significant boost on that.

 

I wonder what would be better opinion for Sakura. To again play role of standard Kishimoto female character or to pull some uberhax ridiculous ability out from nowhere to be credible combatant in clash of titans.

Madara/Hashirama faces and conversation were funny. Return of the lost son and his declaration less so, even if I remember his crazy laugh, international crimes and intention to destroy Konoha from few days/hours (?) of Naruto timeline ago.

I never liked team 7, so I do not have any big expectations for them against Madara/Juubi.

And why is name/appearance of Yondaime as mysterious as legacy of Uzumaki clan if not even biggest bookworm of Konoha 12 can´t recognize him despite living her entire life under his stone face and learning about him in Academy ?

 

Its official Minato is the ninja Jesus

 

The only thing I can think of is because she didnt notice the eyes at first, she assumed he was an alive ninja and tried to associate to someone she knew from that.

That, or there is actually a reason nobody knows Naruto is Minatos son in the newer generation being that Sarutobi wiped out all the photos or something. A carving in a mountain isn't the best thing to recgonize someone from, but if he wanted to erase all information about the nine-tails etc, it would sort of make sense to hide information about Minato. Hope they expand on it though

 

Lol.

Maybe sakura was in shock after seeing Certain death just disappear, and then a Random guy just popped over. Naruto calling this Person dad. Then She went Bonkers because of his Cool and Pretty Hair. Clearly she cannot Read the Words Yondaime Hokage on the back of his Cloak.

 

Oh god someone please write this I beg thee.

 

I guess this also means the Naruto vs. Sasuke rematch that's been building up for years isn't ever going to happen.

Meh.

 

Perhaps not in the Naruto-saves-Sasuke-with-TherapyJutsu(TM) way...

I think that's partly why Kishimoto has Sasuke wanting to be Hokage. He'll probably try to use that as a means to create a 'Final Showdown' between the two of them over who'll be the leader of the village ( a la Hashirama and Madara ). Of course even it did happen this way it'd have lost most of the gravity that the originally expected fight carried.

Not quite sure what Team 7 will accomplish here...they're a bit redundant. The whole shinobi alliance is actually redundant when all the 4 Hokage are present, especially so since the four are now immortal and utterly unstoppable.

 

Not to mention that its just plain stupid to choose a hokage by fighting about it. It was already established that people (jounins anyway?) vote on it. Even if Sasuke were to win, it should not change the fact that he should have to win the trust of the people first. I mean should Orochimaru have become fifth Hokage just because he managed to kill Sarutobi?

One possibility is that Sasuke won't become hokage because no one will trust him after all his shenanigans (as happened with Madara), and he will then change his mind again and decide to destroy Konoha afterall (like Madara), and history will repeat itself with the exception that this time Naruto won't kill Sasuke but somehow TNJ him back to the village by somehow convincing Sasuke that he will change the system for the better just as Sasuke wanted. Or somesuch. That would still be a way for a real battle to happen.

Or maybe the picture above is correct and Naruto will be so pissed that the village chooses what is essentially a traitor as hokage over him, that he will take the role of Madara and Sasuke will have to stop him. That would certainly be the ultimate troll from the author. Not that I would blame Naruto if he left to form his own village after that.

Well, the hokages seem busy holding Juubi in that barrier and restrained, so presumably Team 7 will attack Madara. I mean Madara could instantly destroy that barrier with the chakra absorbtion ability of rinnegan afterall by simple touch, so someone has to prevent that I guess.

I guess it might be interesting to see Madaras reaction to Sasuke fighting him in Susanoo with EMS. I wonder if the wood dragon thing Madara used previously can absorb chakra from Susanoo aswell.

I still kinda wonder what the heck is the point of keeping Juubi in that barrier? I mean is that not the worst thing to do? If all they are doing is keeping it restrained with those torii gates and that barrier, then all they are doing is giving it time to finish transforming into whatever final form its going to have, which will inevitably be strong enough to break free (since thats how it always works). They should try to kill it instead or something. Even if it were to respawn later as bijuu do, atleast it would give everyone time to prepare better.

 

Pretty sure they will end up having to seal it inside someone, my bet is Madara breaks the barrier and seals it inside himself when it becomes clear Obito won't resurrect him after Kakashi TNJ's him. Then Obito will sacrifice himself to kill Madara, the Juubi will then get sealed inside Naruto and then cue fight between Sasuke and Naruto just so they can see whose dick is bigger.