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"A Song of Ice and Fire" stories

Discussion in 'Story Search' started by purple, Jul 9, 2012.

  1. Jarik

    Jarik Chief Warlock

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    And what is a fully grown (well...) man going to insult an 11 year old kid with? And it's Tyrion. He's bringing up what he believes are true assessments of Harry's character - assessments he knows Harry will not like. He knows that will impact Harry more than throwing childish taunts or threats. Plus it's probably easier to self justify if he's at least pretending to be under the guise of educating Harry even if that's not really what's happening.

    Whenever I managed to get my parents pissed off enough at me, their response looked something like Tyrion's. They'd take their anger out in the form of some faux education. They would basically raise issues they had before, but instead of a rational discussion, they would basically just rip into me with very little justification, illogical arguments and refuse to allow me to respond.
     
  2. JoJo23

    JoJo23 Unspeakable

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    I kind of got a really kindly interpretation of what Tyrion was doing there.

    As he sees it, Harry is like 9 and far too naive. He wrries that Tywin will utterly break him by doing the same kind of crazy shit he did to Tyrion with Tysha due to Harry having smallfolk freinds and was trying to prepare him. With a hint of bitterness about Casterly Rock of course.

    My main problem with the scene was his telling Harry all about Tysha, either he feels really close to Harry, or that was kind of weird of him to say. Tyrion was at least as secretive about that as Jaime was about his reasons for killing the king imo.

    That said I really love your work here. Its probobly my favourite ASOIF fic right now, and that has nothing to do with the corssover elements.
     
  3. Clerith

    Clerith Ahegao Emperor ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I'm seeing much conflict in the future. Harry and his morals really don't belong to Westeros. I have to say, I agree more with Tyrion than Harry - he's being way too naive. Well, he is a special child snowflake, but still. It's probably going to be a constant struggle for him. Either he grows up and jaded and conforms to the standard noble view, which is what I actually would prefer, or he becomes some revolutionary equality Jesus, which is where this is heading right now. Smallfolk really are small in Westeros. I don't think they're ready for equality just yet.

    Still, a damn interesting and well written fic.
     
  4. Celestin

    Celestin Dimensional Trunk

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    I wouldn't call him naive. Saying that suggest that what the things that he dreams about are impossible, but that's not true. He knows that they are possible because he saw it in his past life. That the society, while not perfect, can be much better and fairer for everyone.

    And I think Harry can see that the change will not happen overnight, but it will never happen if someone doesn't start it. The question is how far he can push things now and what he should leave for the next generations.
     
  5. FreakLord

    FreakLord Professor DLP Supporter

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    If Harry remembers his previous life, why is he not more wiser? And why is he acting like a kid blushing just because some whore has a low neckline?

    I do hope Harry takes Aeryn to Lannisport. It would be interesting to see Tywin's reaction. And meanwhile Joffrey killing the remaining Nameless would be a nice conflict.
     
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  6. gullibleoats

    gullibleoats Seventh Year

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    I don't think he's really Harry Potter. He's Harry Baratheon, a kid who inherited what I think amounts to an encyclopedia and a search engine. I don't think he's going to be exactly like Harry, he'll just have access to some skills and memories, but otherwise it gets pretty vague.
     
  7. Cxjenious

    Cxjenious Dark Lord

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    Wow dude, that's so mean.
     
  8. White Rabbit

    White Rabbit Hippity Hoppity DLP Supporter

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    Is it really that bad to be better than most everyone else? Sure birth to a wealthy family provides better opportunities, but it's what you do with those opportunities and circumstances are what make you better. I know plenty of people born to wealth and they turned into pieces of shit that make me mad that I have to breathe the same air as them. And I've known others that fought for everything they have, the ones working full time jobs and putting themselves through college with children they support.

    Harry was born into the royal family; prosperity and education and training are available to him. He excels at them. He is clearly better than others if you measure people out by their skills and knowledge and assets. He's more fit to rule than a day laborer because of his status.

    He is in a position of power. Whether he chooses to abuse his station in life, or wants to rule fairly is his choice. The commoners pay for protection. They pay for those who govern to put wrongs to right. Few will rise above the station they were born in. It's his duty to provide them those things.
     
  9. Cxjenious

    Cxjenious Dark Lord

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    And that's what he has to realize.
     
  10. Erandil

    Erandil Minister of Magic

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    That. And you could probably also come up with a pretty biological/neurological idea for his behavior.

    I don´t hold much hope for him changing the world, both it and the societies it contains are just too different , even his memories aren´t that helpful.
     
  11. FreakLord

    FreakLord Professor DLP Supporter

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    Then, its basically an older Tommen but named Harry. Its not really a crossover in that case.
     
  12. Celestin

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    I think it's a wrong interpretation. He is Harry Potter. He has his soul. Even without his memories, he would be brave and against injustice because it's who Harry Potter is.

    The fact that he remembers his past life only adds to that. But while it affects his behavior, there is no strong connection between his young mind and old memories. They are more like a dream to him and don't make him an old man in a body of a kid. All his experience needs to be experienced again to feel natural.

    To use your example. He will blush the first time he sees a woman with a low neckline, but after that his old experience with something similar will connect with him and he will not. Unless he is a person that aways blushes in this kind of situations.

    Another example could be that while he may know how to ride a bike, he doesn't really feel like he can since he never actually did it. He doesn't need to relearn it, but still needs to try it before connecting with the previous experience.

    Anyway, that's just my interpretation of this. Cxjenious may see it differently.
     
  13. Cxjenious

    Cxjenious Dark Lord

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    You've got the right of it.
     
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  14. FreakLord

    FreakLord Professor DLP Supporter

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    Thanks for the explanation Celestin. That really fixed my confusion about the story.
     
  15. Sn0rkack

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    Haven't read anything in a while due to LoL but the lack of GoT this week brought me back...this story is fucking glorious so far. Just found it scrolling through the crossover section on FF and had to come here to see if it was circling about.
     
  16. Prios

    Prios Second Year

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    Family, Duty, Honour.

    Also this one going on atm, it starts out great and sink it's teeth into you.
    Sadly the story has slightly gone into, oh woe is me, Harry is the greatest circle jerk.
    But hopefully it finds the stride it had going on in the first chapter.
     
  17. Brukel

    Brukel Groundskeeper DLP Supporter

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    Found this pretty average tbh. It just turns into another wow Harry is super awesome and understands everyone and everyone likes him, and Ned Stark is pretty much his father and he's basically a Northman, but he's also a Knight! And, and a Direwolf! Pretty boring really.

    I think it would have been much better if he had stayed in the Riverlands, it would have been a much more interesting story if Hoster took him on as a household knight or he stayed on at Seaguard. Or even if he was granted a knight tower or something for killing Balon's sons. Instead it just retraces the early Winterfell story line but with super Harry Potter to improve it and make it awesome.

    2/5 for being well written despite the superness.
     
  18. Cxjenious

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    I don't like it much either, for the reasons listed above. I don't much like the runes either - in HP they just appear to be an ancient alphabet known only to wizards. May be that certain sets of runes woven together might imitate a spell, but I think there would be much more involved than just inscribing them and expecting them to work. Much like how working magic involves much more than spoken words and fancy wand waving.

    Other than that though, it's okay.
     
  19. LilC16

    LilC16 Second Year

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    I could only slog through the first two chapters, and I pretty much just skimmed the second. I don't know what you mean by Harry is a circle jerk though. How can a person be a circle jerk?

    I wasn't impressed with Harry or the plot. A 13 year old orphan son of a potter who, with no evident past experience, can kill six or seven 'Ironmen' with a sword that was chipped and jagged in places. I think the best part is that he can apparently make runes. Never mind exactly how, he just can. On a ceramic lid to a clay pot. I mean, it's just absurd.
     
  20. Sauce Bauss

    Sauce Bauss Second Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    "Harry is the greatest" circlejerk, not Harry is the greatest circlejerk.
     
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