The scenes with Harry and Cersei definitely gave me a weird vibe, but I think that has more to do with the fact that she's batshit than she wants to bone her nine year old son. Although it does appear that Lannister is her favorite type of man seeing as she bones her brother and cousin often.

In any case, as for actual pairings, I just hope Harry doesn't end up with Aeryn. It would be a massive wasted opportunity for more political details were he to get paired with any lowborn, including Aeryn.

5/5 by the way. Looking forward to seeing how Harry interacts with Tywin.

 

Stannis would only back Harry's claim if Melisandre did too.

 

I really like where you're going with the story OP. I haven't read Fire and Ice nor have I seen the HBO show, so I like how you're being thorough in your descriptions (meaning the less items I have to sleuth for on the wiki).

Btw OP, are u by chance planning on adding a different perspective to the story? So far, the story has been from HP's POV; but I would love to see from another. After the recent dialogue between Tywin and HP, I would like to see how the in-universe characters depict HP.

@Taure: If I am reading the GoT wiki right, Melisandre is the devout Red witch/priestess right? If so, wouldn't she have a conflict with HP b/c he is a follower of the Stranger and/or the Seven in general?

 

Yeah, I completely agree with this. I think it'd be more interesting to read about Harry ending up with a canon high born character.

Maybe. Stannis's faith & support in Melisandre and her magic/god seems to stem from the fact that it works. But Harry has magic too, and if he and Cersei successfully tie his magic with their faith and show Stannis what he can do, he might still back his nephew.

 

But he's the Prince that was promised I'd figure... or is that a Westerosi concept not one of the Red Priests? Either way, he's pretty solidly going to stick around so I'm gunning for Harry/Arya since I'd rather see him with a Stark, and Sansa is mleh. Either way, hopefully no pairing will come into play until he's 15 or so.

Or Harry/Bran, that would work.

 

So far not much has been said in the books, it seems to be an old Valyrian prophecy.

- A prophecy that foretells the coming of a hero to deliver the world from darkness. A "bleeding star" is supposed to herald the coming of the prince.

What you're talking about with the Red Priests are the rebirth of Azor Ahai, who was said to have defeated the "others" with a sword made of fire.


Edit: Ofcourse, some readers have speculated that they're really the same prophecy, but so far they have never been mentioned in the same sentence.

 

There's some odd misconceptions about the Stark/Lannister relations pre-WoFK. The Starks marched south to wage war on the Lannisters, not in rebellion. Their objective was to stomp Tywin and march to King's Landing to save Ned. The independence bit only came after Ned was executed and Robb's bannermen brought it up. Eddard would support Harry's claim if canon were repeated, and I can see Robb agreeing to the same so long as Ned lives.

The Lannisters and Starks were rivals, and disliked one another, but before Eddard's arrest and execution it was moderately civil. There was no great hatred of anyone just because they were a Stark or Lannister.

 

Ignoring the Bran thing ( wtf >_>; ), depending on how events play out, I'd rather Arya not be bound by anything so she's free to become a stone cold killer. She's destined to be a badass and I'd be sad if marriage to Harry hampered that. D:

 

I found this a little less than three hours ago, and apart from a small break for dinner, did not stop until there was no more to read. Harry here is a very interesting young man, and I must say Tyrion's speech assured me that we would still have all the nitty gritty medieval stuff I love, and not a magical Harry creating a perfect world before he hits 40.

The rape scene was handled well imo, and I think it's a good starting point for Harry's reputation to grow from a very nice prince to someone worthy of respect and fear in this world.

I also can't help but wonder what will come of Cersei's promise to 'take care of everything,' and am really looking forward to seeing Tywin, your interpretations of the characters really do not leave much to be desired.

It's been awhile since I found a story that made me want an update as much as I do now.

 

Also, didnt Stannis only start an investigation about the children because he wanted the crown? Or was that something I read somewhere?

Melindsire strikes me as the type to already know about Harry though

 

I don't recall the books (or the show) mentioning something like that, I believe it was just that him and Jon Arryn got suspicious at the absolute lack of resemblance between Robert and his children, not sure they mention exactly what triggered the suspicions though.

 

Responses to a bunch of things:

Unsullied: I'm betting it's all ritual magic; not just the loyalty, but the effectiveness too. The castration, the puppy murder, the baby murder, the rotating names all smack of that sort of thing. Blood, Names, and Sacrifice: this would be very fitting for the setting, and I wouldn't be surprised if the people training the Unsullied didn't even know how it really worked anymore.

Pairings: I can see the Cersei thing happening (at least on her side), especially if she gets frustrated with Jaime for whatever reason. Her psyche is dominated by family and power almost to the point of being a one dimensional character, and Harry fits both counts. This would be super traumatizing for Harry though. I can't see Harry/Myrcella from any which way though, and seriously, Harry/Bran, wtf brain bleach needed.

I'm surprised no one has brought up Harry/Sansa, since Harry is pretty much the perfect noble prince with a heart full of gold, a face full of pretty, and a sword arm full of whoop-ass that Sansa was pining for from the beginning. She isn't like Margaery in that it isn't the allure of being queen that she wants, but the allure of the perfect knight. This combined with all the shitty trouble Sansa is great at getting into and Harry's propensity to ride in and save redheads from being eaten by giant snakes, and well...

Stannis: The more I think about it, the more I absolutely can't see him declaring himself King as long as Harry's alive. He might possibly rebel against a Joffery Monarchy, but he would do it with the intention of crowning Harry and serving as his Hand afterwards. Even the red bitch from hell isn't slippery enough to convince Stannis to go so completely against his alignment.

Honestly, I think Stannis understands where Harry was coming from in not letting the rapist get off with a trip to the Wall, but maybe not for the reasons people would first think. Stannis is a big believer in justice for one's actions: the classic example of this is how he treated Davos after the rebellion. The concept of a man wiping his slate "clean", even in exchange for service on the Wall, has to sit badly in Stannis' stomach.

Starks: Too many variables unknown to predict how this will go down. I can't see the whole thing going nearly so badly as it did in canon if Harry is preeminently around, but if he's still being fostered with Tywin stuff might still take a similar course. Or not.

tl;dr Harry/Sansa OTP

 

Some people have suggested it was Littlefinger or Varys dropping hints about the incest, Varys being the most likely of the two IMO. I think it does a real disservice to the character of Stannis to say something like that though, admittedly there is no Stannis POV, but saying that Stannis wouldn't have let an actual trueborn child of Robert inherit misses what he is all about. And the stuff with Mel is because it works, whereas the Seven left his parents to drown outside Storm's End while he watched.

And lol at the Starks and Lannisters being the Blackwoods and Brackens mark 2. Was there any tension before the rebellion? I got the impression that the issue Ned had with them was the whole, smashing babies against walls and then raping the mother thing.

Agree with the grittiness, and while I do have some issues with how the inheritance of the Rock was brought up, Tyrion would have been more circumspect about it I think, but that is incredibly minor and hardly worth mentioning. As far as pairings well assuming things go down like canon, then Margaery is kind of inevitable, and other than that, then I think the usual practice is to marry a banner man's daughter? so Jeyne Westerling if he remains at the Rock past the point where canon starts? Of course things will escalate long before that but as long as it isn't Dany then i'm sure i'll cope. Sansa would be kind of cool though.

4.5/5 rounded up.

 

Where did you get this notion?

He's a prince of the Iron Throne and heir to the West; he won't be marrying any lowborns.

And thumbs up to EinStern and Rhys.

 

Sansa/Harry could be plausibleish as Robert has been forced to confront the fact that Jeffory is a dick a bit more, and realizing marrying Sansa to Jeffory would piss off Cersei, so he might think Sansa/Harry could be more plausible, although it might piss off Tywin a bit.

 

Tywin married his cousin, however, Cersei said (I don't think this has been confirmed, could be a lie to get him to join the King's Guard) that Tywin wanted to marry Jaime to Lysa Tully.

3rd wife of Quellon Greyjoy (Balon Greyjoy's father) was a woman from House Piper, a Riverlands noble house.

Eddard married Catelyn Tully, again, that could be to cement the Riverlands to the rebellion. (But his older brother and the heir had been betrothed to her)
Same reason could be given for Jon Arryn's marriage to Lysa.

The remaining lords that we know of all married noble houses from their own lands.

So while you're correct that the heirs of the great houses do tend to marry a banner man's daughter, a great way to built loyalty aswell, there have been cases of political marriage outside of their "kingdoms".

 

I was wondering when a discussion about pairings will start, but I thought we will actually see Harry interact with more girls before that happens.

I don't think this Harry would be interested in something like that. On the other hand Cersei may have few dreams about it in the future and even then it would probably have more to do with her lust for power than her lust for her own son.

Arya works better having her own adventures.

I think Sansa is the most suitable girl for Harry. Both of them would be probably very happy with it and because of that chances are rather low for it to ever happen.

Another pairing that would probably work pretty well for Harry. If he is into incest and I doubt he is.

Harry/Margaery

She will try her best for it to happen, but Harry may not be interested.

Harry/Daenerys

That's my OTM for this fic. As in One True Marriage. I just can see Harry having her as his wife to get dragons on his side in his future war against the Great Other. And I expect this to be a completely loveless marriage.

Harry/Melisandre

Depending on her reaction to his magic.

Harry/Aeryn

I think she will be his first lover, but not his first love.

 

If I could give you a thumbs up Celestin, I would. Though I'll say, Harry won't want the dragons so much as the dragon heartstrings.

Now I'm going to ignore this thread to work on the next chapter.

 

Best post all day.

 

Finally got around to reading it again after the rewrite that it went through.

While I don't agree with the bandwagon about this being a perfect 5/5 story it's definitely a decent read. So I'll have to say 4/5 rounded up from 3.5.