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Complete Worm by Wildbow - T - Original Urban Fantasy

Discussion in 'Original Fiction' started by Orm Embar, Feb 23, 2013.

  1. Caledfwlch

    Caledfwlch Sixth Year DLP Supporter

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    There'd need to be an object on the moon with the same mass as the Endbringer he was swapping it with, and I doubt he could see that from the earth.
     
  2. yak

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    There must be a size, mass, or distance limit to Trickster's power, otherwise he'd have been able to swap stars and planetary bodies around if he could see them at night and they were of a similar mass. He'd be able to fuck the planet over if he swapped Earth and Venus, for example, or one of our oceans with the moon. I don't think he can do that; there must be some limits to powers.
     
  3. chaosfire999

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    Conjecture: presumably, Trickster can swap things that are 'similar.'

    Difference in location, mass, shape and size all add to the difficulty of making the swap. I'm not sure but did he also have more trouble with things that were moving? Difference in speed. Some of those things may be more or less of an factor but it sounds like the most plausible explanation for his powers, to me.
     
  4. Chime

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    Wasn't the "speed" of his power explained? The bigger the object, the slower its transportation? If he tried to transport a star, it might not "ever" happen? I don't know if his powers get "tied up" while he's transporting something, but even if they can't be, it'd be pointless to move a celestial body if he'll be dead before the transport is complete.
     
  5. chaosfire999

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    Oh yes! I'd forgotten that, too. But that was that the bigger the difference in size, the longer it took, not just big things in general. And I think it put his power out of commission for a tiny bit it was too much?
     
  6. Rym

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    Not to mention that even if it was possible, the endbringer would just destroy the moon and then earth would still be screwed.
     
  7. shizuki

    shizuki First Year

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    While we're on this tangent of Trickster playing with celestial bodies, he can't actually see them so he can't swap them. The image he receives is thousands of years out of date--the stars may have gone nova, changed position, or any number of things that happen to stars and distant planets.
     
  8. chaosfire999

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    But then the same must apply to everything else, so his power can get around Relativistic effects already. To go off on even more of a tangent:

    If he's looking at a star that is sufficiently similar at the present cosmic time (when we see the light) to what it was like at the cosmic time of emission of the light, then it should be within the limits of his abilities. The Galaxy is just over a hundred thousand light years wide. Since most stars he can see will be in our galaxy and they're about the same as the Sun (to use a horrible over simplification), they only just change appreciably on a timescale of about 100,000 years so it's probably fine for close stars.

    But yea, he's still pretty buggered because they're so far away from each other. This is a silly discussion :p
     
  9. TSN

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    talking about galaxy and stars and stuff, legend thorised he could travel in the void, that would make him relatively ageless should he leave earth beta and go around exploring the stars.

    its the power in wormverse i would personally preffer to have.
     
  10. Ennead

    Ennead Seventh Year

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    Reaching the end of this chapter was pretty soul-crushing...thank god there's an update Thursday!

    Edit: Innomine, check the Donation page. It usually says whether or not there's a Thursday update.
     
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  11. Innomine

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    Are you sure? WB says that's the end of the arc. Which usually means no interlude till saturday. :(
     
  12. Idiot Rocker

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    Yep. Behemoth fight is next. Looks like one of the three rookies is Theo. Hmm, who do we think it is? I'm betting it's Annex. Golem talks a little bit more but I feel like that's a red herring.
     
  13. Ennead

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    I honestly have no idea what the Interlude will be on. Tecton's perspective leading up to the fight? What happens to Heartbreaker back in BB? It seems WB is planning the EndBringer arc for...next Tuesday?

    Where are people getting the idea that one of the rookies is Theo? I can't find any mention of him in the chapter....is it based on the description of Golem as heavyset?

    Anyways, three new rookies. Cuff, Annex, and Golem. Based on their armor, I'm speculating Cuff and Golem are both Brute/Breaker type capes. Annex...apparently doesn't need armor or weapons. Guessing he has a power that relates to extra dimensions.

    Also, surprise appearance by Accord!
     
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  14. Mock Moniker

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    He's in the tags at the end of the chapter, which means he's one of the important characters who shows up.

    Also, I think the combination of Tattletale (finding out info about Behemoth), Accord (coming up with a plan to use what Tattletale discovers) and Skitter (implementing Accord's plan by directing everyone on the battlefield with her bug arrows) could actually be pretty damn devastating.
     
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  15. chaosfire999

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    This is basically what I was about to say.
     
  16. Mock Moniker

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    Also, I remembered in Lung's interlude reading about how the Yangban was going to take away his powers and give him different ones.

    I thought it must have been Lung misunderstanding something, because I didn't think powers could work that way, but this chapter definitely makes it seem like they've done that.

    We know they're cauldron customers, but how do they get a team of people all with the same powers like that? I'm thinking they have a cape who can screw around with people's passengers- maybe he can mold the passenger to be like another one. So they'd buy some cauldron formula to force a bond to a passenger, and then fuck with the passenger to grant powers that work well with a team.

    We've seen Glaistig Uaine can fuck with passengers, and Teacher thinks he can now that he knows what they are.
     
  17. chaosfire999

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    Never forgetting, of course, that Bonesaw was capable messing with Passengers, too. She must have been, given things like Hackjob.
     
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  18. Mock Moniker

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    Actually, for Hackjob I don't think you'd need to mess with the passengers, just the humans. Hatchet and Oni's powers weren't changed, they were just sewn together.

    But yeah, Bonesaw has some knowledge of how to fuck with passengers by fucking with people's brains.
     
  19. Caledfwlch

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    Seeing as both Cuff and Annex are tagged, but Golem isn't, it's probably fair to say that Golem is Theo. It'll be interesting to see what his power is - Kaiser controlled metal and the Allfather could summon iron weapons, so maybe his name signifies he has control over earth?

    Surprised to see him at all, though. After he was abandoned, I thought it'd take him a while to develop powers. Maybe Cauldron had a hand in this?
     
  20. Aekiel

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    Not really. She just grafted one cape onto another, so they'd be more like Siamese twins than an entirely new being. If I'm remembering it right, Hackjob also had lesser powers than at least Hatchet Face did, possibly Oni Lee as well. So there was some weakening in there.

    She did, however, manage to mess with Skitter's Passenger or brain to the point where she had very limited control of her power. I think she could probably learn to manipulate Passengers though; she's one of the best Tinkers in the world for medical stuff, after all.

    EDIT: I'd probably bet on Golem as well. It doesn't mention that his armour is metal, just that it's generic, but wanting to hide his identity would be a good idea in his position. Aside from that, remember that there is no Pokemon in this world. Golem would refer to the mythological creature, which was a living being made of inanimate matter. It could be made of anything from metal to earth to bone to sea shells.

    On the other hand, Theo was raised by racists and the Golem is a creature from Jewish folklore. While Theo isn't racist (or at least not as much as the Pure are), I'm not sure he'd go for such an obvious insult to his former family.
     
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