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WIP The Prince Who Was Promised by cxjenious - M

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by Cxjenious, May 30, 2013.

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  1. Mission

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    Completely agree with you Doctor Whooves. I haven't read or watched the series but it hasn't taken away from my enjoyment of reading this story. I too am very eager for the next chapter.
     
  2. Orm Embar

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    This is definitely very good, and Harry's characterization strikes a perfect balance of retaining his old outlook while ditching the angst. Still, it's missing a certain je ne sais quoi that would take it from highly entertaining to immersive and utterly glorious.

    4/5.
     
  3. yak

    yak Moderator DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    So, five years until AGoT begins. Harry 14; Joffrey 15. Excellent. I can't wait to see what kind of man Harry has become by that time.

    If Harry's claim is good, and he's set to become a Lannister, then wouldn't Tywin push Harry towards the throne? That way House Lannister would rule Westeros, rather than House Baratheon through Joffrey. I guess the biggest problem with that, is that Harry wouldn't come into his Lannister inheritance until after Tywin's death, so Tywin's victory would be a posthumous one.
     
  4. Prios

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    If they want Harry on the throne, then Joff needs to die soon, or Jon Arryn has to have no suspicion of the seed.

    There is no other way, cause if Ned still outs Joff at somewhat canon time, then Harry will already be a Lannister in all but name and I doubt that even if he is the trueborn son of Robert that the rest of the great houses would care at that point.

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    I just thought about that, I guess if Ned shares his opinion of Harry being the trueborn son, if he thinks that, with Stannis, then Stannis might back up Harry.

    But there is a ton of problems that goes with that, Tywin won't back up Harry over Joff cause that would be saying that the incest charges are true.

    Actually the more I think about it the more exciting this story could go.
    If Ned isn't executed and the North doesn't rebel then what would they do? Back Harry? Renly still thinking he would be a better king, even over Harry?

    Argh, Cxjenious, update. You're killing me :D
     
  5. Necrule Paen

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    Anyone consider that Littlefinger might implicate Harry as the one who sent the assassin after Bran? Harry does have a dagger that matches what is used in canon.

    Littlefinger wants the Lannisters and the Starks at war, a Trueborn Heir of the King would get in the way of that. But if Harry is implicated in the conspiracy early on, by the time Ned figures out what the conspiracy is about, he'd just assume Harry is a bastard of another father.

    Thus, most of the conflict in the story is not nipped in the bud.
     
  6. White Rabbit

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    No matter how it turns out, there will be blood. And lots of it. You can probably count on Harry being in the thick of things.

    I wonder if Harry will ever pick up a war hammer. Maybe in the chaos of battle he'll grab one and go apeshit. Busting skulls and cracking chests like a boss.
     
  7. bastur2

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    Well, it seems that Harry will not have a bone wand...

    On the other hand, I just found a very big difference on this TL to the other, we have, and problably will not have any Tommem, as he was to be born in 291al, and we already are at 293Al
     
  8. Aekiel

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    See now I'm wondering why Jon Arryn would suspect incest in the first place. The reason he did so in canon was because all the Baratheon children had blond hair whereas Robert's bastards took after him. In this world we have Harry messing that up. There's no reason for Jon Arryn to become suspicious because the unlikely coincidence of three blond children doesn't exist.
     
  9. Paradosi

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    He might still suspect that Joffrey isn't Robert's at all. I mean, there's not a hint of physical resemblance between em.

    Even if the son favors the mother in looks, there'd be similarities with the father that go beyond dark hair.
     
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  10. LilC16

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    True, but with Harry not there to suppress that suspicion, all Jon will see is a shitload of black haired bastards and two royal blondes. Just depends on the author really.
     
  11. Necrule Paen

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    I think it depends on where Jon's suspicions started. If it was because he looked at the royal family, than yes there is a problem but if it is because he looked at the bastards than it won't change anything.

    Remember the issue was not that all of Cersei's children were blonde but that any of them were.

    Jon's last words were "The Seed is Strong" afterall.
     
  12. Prios

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    I think it was because none of the children had any of Roberts features, the hair thing probably just sealed it for him.
     
  13. Peace

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    With Harry being called the Black Prince I can’t help but draw comparisons between him and Edward of Woodstock (who became popularly known as the Black Prince in the 16th Century). Edward commanded a division of his father’s troops during the Battle of Crécy when he was 16 which gives me great hope for what role a 14 year old Harry fostered by Tywin Lannister will play when the war starts.
     
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    The Black Lion of Lannister? but yeah, a Harry playing counter to Robb as boy warlord would be pretty cool. Well that and having a lion skin cloak, but I think Sandor's grandfather and his dogs killed the last one in the Westerland's so not much hope of that.
     
  15. Peace

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    Forget the lion skin cloak. How about a direwolf skin cloak? If he goes to war with the Starks that is.

    The Black Lion, I like that.
     
  16. Sn0rkack

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    the North wont just back Harry because he has a claim...Stannis had a claim and they crowned Robb king instead.
     
  17. FreakLord

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    The fascinating thing about Westeros is the Game. If he starts going on adventures I am going to change my rating to 1/5 and stop reading the fic.
     
  18. Chime

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    I do agree that it might be interesting for Harry to dabble in more non-wand magic, at least initially, while he struggles to cope with an inferior wand.
     
  19. Photon

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    after first chapter:

    "'That was a lucky shot, catching it in the lungs.'" - it pointlessly repeats information from previous sentence.

    "he had yet to find the right ingredients to craft a lasting one" - consequences of fact that wands are single-use may be extremely interesting. It is nice that we will not see superpowered Harry (at least everything suggests this).

    Maybe it was required by theme/atmosphere/conservation of details/dumping unwanted subplot/avoiding "world X is superior to world Y" but it is quite weird that Harry is not mentioning huge differences in technology. Especially agriculture and medicine in this world is light years behind both magic and muggle from the Earth. But also planes, electricity, sewage handling, guns, trains, radio, nukes and everything else. I think that there is no single thing that would be more advanced in ASoIaF than in magical or muggle world, sometimes differences are dramatic. Maybe Harry is not Hermione but after n visits in hospital at least differences in medicine should be noticed.

    OK, it is word unlike ours but I think that he should not be eight years old. I am just unable to imagine child behaving like this. And adults treating child like this is even more surprising.
     
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  20. Prios

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    I guess it's the same thing as all the bad fics mentioning the muggle world being vastly superior in all things, it gets tiring.

    "Muggles have their own kind of magic!!!!11oneone".
     
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