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WIP The Prince Who Was Promised by cxjenious - M

Discussion in 'The Alternates' started by Cxjenious, May 30, 2013.

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  1. Paimon

    Paimon That fucking cat

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    Meh, hammers are very brutish and don't exactly scream finesse. From what we've seen of Harry I don't think they really fit all that well, though he hasn't seen much combat yet so who knows.

    I, for one, would be very disappointed if Harry's battles devolved into him just hitting things with a hammer while screaming "HARRY SMASH NOW."
     
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  2. Celestin

    Celestin Dimensional Trunk

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  3. Red Aviary

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    I thought the Sword of Gryffindor from the movies was way too small, especially once Neville started holding it in Deathly Hallows. Something more like this would've fit better since it was Godric Gryffindor's sword, and he was apparently a big guy. Though admittedly, Harry was twelve and really skinny when he received it in Chamber of Secrets, and he might not have been able to use something like that. Maybe it should've been able to change sizes to fit the user?

    The movie version's better than that scimitar-looking thing in the book's chapter art though.

    I just remembered Gryffindor's symbol was a lion too. Did Harry ever make that connection with the Lannisters here? I don't remember.
     
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  4. MattSilver

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    Harry should wield a broomstick made of Valyrian steel and dragonglass as a weapon.

    There. I win.
     
  5. Thaumologist

    Thaumologist Fifth Year ~ Prestige ~

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    Harry using a hammer could be interesting, because he is actually Robert's son, and the hammer is Robert's weapon. Compared to Joffrey and his use of the sword, which Jaime is famous for being kind of awesome with.
     
  6. Aekiel

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    Depends on if Harry grows to be as big as Robert. If he does, the hammer is a decent bet. If not, sword all the way.
     
  7. Prios

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    If Robert is to die the same death, or at the same time as in canon, him leaving his hammer to Harry would send a pretty strong message. Like how people took the fact Aegon the Unworthy leaving Blackfyre to his bastard over his legitimate son as a sign that he wanted him to take over the throne, or well some did.
     
  8. Skeletaure

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    Harry should use his wits and a subtle application of his magic as his weapon.

    I'm not anticipating much of the plot hinging on Harry's martial skill. His strategic and tactical ability, yes, but not his actual physical fighting prowess. That's not really Game of Thrones style, where all the most celebrated Knights would be squashed in a real battle by the brute that is the Mountain. A world where if you're in a situation where you have to fight your way out, 9/10 you've already lost because your enemy has outmaneuvered you and now has you surrounded with crossbows. Jaime Lannister's ability had been talked up for a whole book, and then he was captured handily by Robb. How? He was outnumbered. Etc. etc.
     
  9. Prios

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    Well, it depends if he's gonna lead the armies himself, even into the battle.

    Then I would think his fighting ability might come into play.
     
  10. Ferdiad

    Ferdiad Unspeakable

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    Because leading from the front won't end in disaster.
     
  11. Prios

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    His father did lead from the front.
     
  12. Invictus

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    Julius Freaking Caeser led his men in the front. For merely strategic decision. In the back is safer, but in a hard struggle leading in the front gives your troops a huge morale boost, specially when the leader is a father-like figure to his troops, just like Julius was, Alexander Magnus and Robert is at least implied too (more of a brothers-in-arms awesome pal...) and can you see Harry not assuming this kind of role with his soldiers?

    Also is Harry getting his own Guard Unit, like his own Royal Guard? That's why Ser Barristam is going and not staying, to form it?
     
  13. Skeletaure

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    Harry is Tywin's pupil, and Tywin leads from the rear. I suspect Harry will too, at least at first.
     
  14. NoxedSalvation

    NoxedSalvation Temporarily Banhammered

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    That would totally go against his memories of being Harry Potter ("saving people thing") and the ethics he developed while living in King's Landing. He didn't torture those rapists "from the rear"...
     
  15. Skeletaure

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    Well, the whole point of the last few chapters has been to show that Harry's ethics (from his old life and his early life in King's Landing) are under heavy assault and it has been heavily foreshadowed that, while he will continue to have some spark of Harry within him when he's pushed on those things closest to his heart, in general terms he is being Westeros-ised, and Tywin's strength of character is a big part of this.

    For those of you who haven't been paying attention, this is not a "Harry Potter wanders around Westeros using magic to kick ass" story. It's a characterisation piece. Not of Harry Potter, but of Harry Baratheon.
     
  16. Ched

    Ched Da Trek Moderator DLP Supporter ⭐⭐

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    The only time I expect to see Harry leading from the front will be when we start to see combat with Others and White Walkers. That's going to be a ways away.

    That's not to say he won't lead from front at other times, just that I don't expect it or feel a need for it.
     
  17. CrackedMind

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    Unless cock is firmly planted on the other end in Westeros, I suspect not.
     
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    If Harry becomes too Westeros-ized for my liking then I'm dropping it. Just saying.
     
  19. Celestin

    Celestin Dimensional Trunk

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    If Taure had his way Harry wouldn't be even called Harry in this story. He would be called Alex. ;)

    That said, I agree with him that Harry will probably lead from the rear. Not just because of Tywin's influence, but because it's more practical if he wants to secretly use his magic to affect the outcome of the battle.
     
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  20. White Rabbit

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    Maybe Harry will be with Jaime at the Whispering Woods. And the surprise forces him into the fray. Maybe Harry gets captured. Maybe we can speculate all fucking day what color shit Harry takes and how that affects his marriage prospects. :p

    Harry will become hardened. Hard times make hard men. Weakness will not go unpunished by anyone, especially Tywin. Now, is he going to go around stomping babies and raping herds of sheep? No. He's still fundamentally Harry Potter. He has his convictions, but he will have the ability and training to calculate "necessary" actions. They won't be easy decisions, but sometimes you have to be someone terrible to generate the best outcome.

    I think he'll attempt peaceful negotiations, but when pressed with no other options he'll come down with some Pulp Fiction shit.
     
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