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Other Fandoms Almost Recommendable: Barely Readable to Almost Good [Volume the First]

Discussion in 'Fanfic Discussion' started by Rhys, May 11, 2010.

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  1. Ayreon

    Ayreon Unspeakable DLP Supporter

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    I didn't even know we had that subforum. I only recently started reading those. :D
     
  2. tragicmat1

    tragicmat1 Death Eater

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    Try this one. It's a Inheritance Cycle/Elder Scrolls cross-over. Features your standard OP Dragonborn in Alagaesia.

    http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8532059/1/Dragons

    It starts out in a somewhat cliche way, but it gets a lot better as daedric princes are brought in, etc. I don't find it anywhere near Library worthy, but it's a good read imo.
     
  3. Nemrut

    Nemrut The Black Mage ~ Prestige ~

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    Read the Lucid Berserker and while it was interesting, I didn't enjoy it all that much. I just didn't like how the story was basically a blowjob to the Naruto characters, being awesome and so much better than the Fate characters, defeating them without even trying all that hard.

    Just hard to enjoy a story when the authors favourite characters roflstomp everyone else. Also, not sure I liked the characterization of Naruto, he just seemed like those superfic Naruto's who are always mischievous, can toy in a fight with people and basically demean them for no reason while holding the moral highground to everyone else, always being ethically in the right and never get called out on it.

    So, yeah, those aspects really curbed my enjoyment of the story but I did like some fights and the ongoing mystery is kinda interesting.
     
  4. Tasoli

    Tasoli Minister of Magic

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    Another point was despite being told he was stronger than his opponents repeatedly every time Naruto fights he barely matches his enemy.

    Like his fight with Lancer. He fights against him and can't beat him despite being supposedly 10 times stronger than him.
     
  5. Ayreon

    Ayreon Unspeakable DLP Supporter

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    I got to chapter 9, but the OC protagonist seems to be a complete idiot.
    You said he changes later, but it's really hard to stay with a story if the main character is so unlikable. He seems like a straw man in his discussions with Twilight at the beginning. I'm not going to say that it's unrealistic for a supposedly highly intelligent person to behave the way he does - it's not unlikely that people like him exist. But still - it shouldn't be so frustrating to read.
     
  6. Sn0rkack

    Sn0rkack Professor

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    Why would you ever do something so drastic like joining the Air Force or getting a job before the story was even done?!
     
  7. yak

    yak Moderator DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    So that he can join the SGC at Cheyenne Mountain and go and kick some alien ass, ofc.
     
  8. oakes

    oakes Unspeakable DLP Supporter

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    Congratulations though, if it is as hard as getting into the air force there as is here, that's a huge accomplishment.
     
  9. yak

    yak Moderator DLP Supporter Retired Staff

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    You wouldn't say that if you'd met the same air force blokes I have - they were involved in the mechanical maintenance side of things. They know how to avoid doing any work, I'll give them that. ;)
     
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  10. Chime

    Chime Dark Lord

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    I wanted to get on my soapbox on this one - I barely got through the first ten chapters before I literally wanted to hurt this author. Grr. This story makes me mad.

    1) Almost no description (but I've come to expect this from fanfiction, so, whatever, minor detraction)
    2) The entire SIPA thing is just a hamfisted way of practically transparently allowing autorial manipulation. "Naruto, get over your crush!" "Sakura, get over your crush!" "Sasuke? You're a dick!" Fuck this is bad writing. First of all, psychologists aren't supposed to tell others what they know of their patients ('cause, you know, it undermines the trust necessary to get their job done; at best, the psych could have secretly given Sandaime all the details, but telling Sakura immediately after seeing Naruto that she "got rid of his crush" and practically explaining to her his reasons for liking her? That really disgusts me, that the author didn't care enough to at least make Naruto tell her after being prompted by the doctor), secondly, it's played way, way, way too straight. Naruto should have a healthy distrust of doctors, or at least, be out of touch with his feelings? If he were able to honestly answer her questions like he did, straightly, without any meditation or hesitation, wouldn't he have changed his mindset about Sakura already? Been a more attentive ninja? Every scene involving this psychologist is so awful it just turned me off to the rest of the story
    3) Apparently, Sasuke has killed a former classmate in cold blood. While an interesting concept in theory, the way the everyone reacts is totally out of character. Sakura gets over it too easily, for one. It's clearly just the author's attempt to make us hate Sasuke, to get Sakura unrooted in her desire of him, and use him as a scapegoat down the road for emotional conflict.

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    For the sake of offering something constructive (and non-Naruto apparently). Here's an old Zelda story I liked waaaay back. It's a tad strange. Twilight Princess.

    http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3351941/1/Cincinnatus
     
  11. Vincent

    Vincent Death Eater

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    I couldn't really get past the Hyuuga part in the Naruto SIPA story. It got too sanctimonious for me. The Hyuuga's are dicks just for the heck of it? Why? I'd also have been fine with Sasuke being a sociopath if the need to kill crap wasn't added on top of it. Also some of the science stuff didn't make sense considering the manga. Sasuke has no talent for shape manipulation? After what he's done with Chidori and Amaterasu such a thing is ridiculous to even consider.
     
  12. H_A_Greene

    H_A_Greene Unspeakable –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    You're almost three months late for April Fools, Lamora :(
     
  13. mortalone

    mortalone Sixth Year

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    I like the premise of a shinobi performance institute that can be used to determine not only obvious factors about the strengths and weaknesses of a character, but hidden talents. It's risky because it can easily fall into the trap of all tell, no show, but it's never been done before.

    Unfortunately, that story completely fucking sucks.

    Everything you say about SIPA is 100% true. What SIPA should have been is a means to direct characters towards different abilities than commonly seen in canon/fanon. There's some of that, sort of, not really. The main focus is more on shameless promotion of the author's favorites and bashing of his least favorites. Every time SIPA gets congratulated for a job well done it makes me feel like the author is patting himself on the back.
     
  14. Republic

    Republic The Snow Queen –§ Prestigious §– DLP Supporter

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    I can understand where you're coming from, to a degree, but I disagree. I never got the impression that the Naruto characters 'roflstomp' the Fate Servants.
    It seems pretty even, to me. Yes the Servants are caught by surprise by their abilities the first time they are shown, but then again so are the Naruto characters. The Servants are more than equal opponents, as has been shown.
    Except for Assassin, but you can't really say anything about that, can you?
    I think this story reminds you of such situations where what you describe actually happens, and it frustrates you.
     
  15. Captain Trips

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    I would like to reccomend the Cicero Dragonborn series by ms_katonic.

    Instead of the player character, Cicero ends up as the Dragonborn, hijinks ensue and Skyrim changes as a result of this. The series can be smutty at times and contains some slash, but I enjoyed the story despite that.

    The stories are as follows:

    With a Dragonborn Like This..
    Instead of an anonymous prisoner at Helgen, another Dragonborn has arisen. The Greybeards have called Cicero to High Hrothgar. What could possibly go wrong?

    All Skyrim's Foes
    After killing Alduin and marrying his Listener, Cicero the Dragonborn was looking forward to a peaceful life with his brothers and sisters, furthering the Dark Brotherhood's work throughout Skyrim. Unfortunately for him, the rest of Skyrim has other ideas, and some of Listener Delphine's political decisions didn't prove universally popular. With the Dark Brotherhood being employed to prevent assassinations for once, an apparent conspiracy at the very heart and soul of Skyrim, romantic complications and Daedric shenanigans threatening to endanger all Cicero holds dear, the Jester Dragonborn and friends are finding that saving the world was the easy part.

    Reclamations

    Cicero Dragonborn's life is going well - he has his beautiful Listener, his dear sister Eola, a functioning Dark Brotherhood and a father who accepts him even if he doesn't entirely approve. Right up until another Dragonborn appears, one who's had centuries to master the Thu'um and amass a following, and who wants to wipe out the competition.
     
  16. NTD

    NTD High Inquisitor

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    Old story but the author just recently began the sequel

    Starts out alright, but it's just one chapter. Still, anyone who enjoyed the first should know that the sequel is out.
     
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  17. Thaumologist

    Thaumologist Fifth Year ~ Prestige ~

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    The Cicero Dragonborn series is a good read, and I'm currently going back through the first one.

    It gets a bit BDSMy at places, the main character is openly bi, and the sex scenes are often quite long, and rather explicit. If any of those annoy you, then you won't like the story.

    Enough is different from the games so it doesn't read like so many other game-based stories do, with instant healing, named perks, and talent trees in the narrative. Quests are split up between characters, and they are all different enough that it doesn't feel like the protagonist is just copied and pasted.

    Definitely worth reading, although you'll get much more out of it if you're familiar with Skyrim, the quests the characters do, and the characters themselves. So go and do a Dark Brotherhood run.
     
  18. Chime

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    Right, I agree, sort of, but for me... what does a "scientific organization" do that any jounin can't? Kakashi is either a slow-paced teacher (anticipating years worth of training for his students) or completely incompetent in canon, because he basically doesn't teach them anything. So while Sipa is an improvement over that, any "wise ninja" could see the potential Naruto has at a glance. It's almost a cop-out, to say that we need a highly sophisticated scientific program to generate competent young ninja - just fix the bloody education system. Kakashi doesn't teach anyone anything so he should be held accountable, lol. Hell, having Iruka tutor Naruto after he graduates is a step up from canon Kakashi tutelage.
     
  19. Agayek

    Agayek Dimensional Trunk DLP Supporter

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    To be fair to Kakashi, he actually appears to teach them quite a bit if you look at the subtext. We're not explicitly shown a great deal of training other than the tree walking, but that doesn't mean it's not there. Naruto, at the least, shows dramatic improvement in his actual fighting ability between the genin test and the Chuunin exams, even if his general strategy doesn't change much, and he certainly behaves as if he'd been consistently taught by Kakashi. After all, if Kakashi hadn't taught him anything, why would he be surprised when Kakashi says he can't train him during the month break?
     
  20. Vincent

    Vincent Death Eater

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    Is a jounin sensei's job even to do all that personal training? The fact that Kakashi only trains them when he thinks they'll die otherwise gives me the impression that it's not exactly his job to do so. It's not like we see the rest of the jounin doing otherwise and making Kakashi look bad. Guy seems like the only real sensei that's doing that and I'd attribute that to him taking Lee as an apprentice/his personality. From what we've seen of Kakashi the jounin sensei seems more like a commanding officer and bodyguard that keeps the kids alive while they gain experience.
     
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