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Applicable Crossovers

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  1. joshuafaramir

    joshuafaramir Banned

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    Just wondering what are the guidelines for which crossover is applicable for HP or not.

    I've read a whole lot of crossovers like Dresden, Firefly, Naruto, Bleach and recently, GoT's coming up fast as a contender.

    Anyhow, my question is that, would it still be considered a HP crossover to use another story's main character and put it on HPverse? For example:

    Fate/Stay Night:
    -Shirou: Has a thing for saving people
    -Harry: Has a thing for saving people
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    -Shirou: Redhead
    -Harry : His mom's a redhead
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    -Shirou: Poor unsuspecting sap gets suckered into a war
    -Harry : ^ Same as above
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    -Both are magicians, headstrong and stubborn as mules.

    In any case, if one would write a fic of Shirou in HPverse or Harry in Nasuverse, which would be the HP crossover? Would both be applicable as an HP crossover?
     
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    They're both crossovers with HP, since they both would contain elements from it. Though I would be more prone to read the one with Harry as the main character, than one that wasn't.

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    As for the specified example, I wouldn't read either, since anime and HP shouldn't be mixed. Ever.
     
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  3. Chime

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    Shirou and Harry are nothing alike, superficial characteristics aside. The universes cross-over well because they actually have pretty similar magic systems (well, compare True Magic/Sorcery with HP magic and they're about the same). Hogwarts could even exist within the confines of Clock Tower, as a competing school of some kind that has stayed isolated from its influence since the middle ages.

    It's kind of hard to justify having Japanese people in Hogwarts though. I could see a UBW-route Rin/Shirou being crossed over with HP, or something like that. Maybe Hogwarts has its own Grail system (or imitation of a grail). Hell, the grail could be a horcrux...

    I personally prefer Shirou to Harry, though people who've done fate-fanfiction tend to write Shirou in a stifling Grabiel-blessing-esque way. Harry might be as stubborn as a mule, but Shirou is about as block-headed as Captain Ahab, or something.

    I don't see why you couldn't have both characters in a crossover story. It would be interesting if one or the other were the main antagonist.

    The worst thing you can do though is make them bloodly related. The great thing about Shirou is he has no past. The reader can imagine whatever origin they want. He may very well be some kind of mythical origin, for all we know, given his pecular magical traits. Maybe he is related to Harry, but to do it overtly destroys the interesting, transhuman quality of his character (Shirou has a reality marble because he's one fucked-up individual).

    Really, Archer/Shirou have a drive I wish Harry had in the books. Shirou's kind of... overpowered by Nasu, but I rather like that Shirou became Archer through sheer force alone; a drive to be strong enough to fight opponents that transcend human limits. I mean, in Nasu's own words:
    "His strength does not come from natural talent like Rin or Saber, but instead from single-minded refining of what little talent he had in life. He had nothing at first, and through improving himself for reason that he was not extraordinary, his techniques trained by his will alone reached the point where it is obvious to Shirou that he should be naturally considered strong. He is not fixated on the exact method of winning, opening many possibilities not available to those who fight with chivalry and codes of honor."
    At the end of HP it feels like it's a happy coincidence that Harry succeeded at anything at all.

    If I were to write a crossover, it'd probably be... Auror Harry meets Luvia+Shirou, who are paired together by Clock Tower to go after Apostles or maybe... lost sealing designates, or something. It'd at least be believable that way, though I don't know if it could hold anyone's interest.
     
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  4. joshuafaramir

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    Actually, it's not the anime I'm thinking off but the Visual Novel which is completely different from the anime. And why shouldn't Visual Novels and HP mix? I mean we have a freaking comics/HP crossover (Wand and Shield) and it worked out just fine right? Or even Avatar: Airbender Crossover. If both have enough similarities which would enable the two to cross-over without having to change most of the canon facts...

    I do agree with you that MOST anime should not ever be crossed over with HP. It just won't work.

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    Post Hogwarts Crossover sounds fine but I was thinking more along the lines of Shirou as the "Boy Who Lived" because he really is a "Boy Who Lived" right? I am conflicted though because I like HP as a main character but I also like Shirou as well. The age difference between baby Harry dying and Shirou being saved maybe difficult to bridge though.

    We could start AU Fate with Shirou as a student from Clock-Tower competing for the Tri-wiz tournament but that would require a lot of background info which in itself is difficult enough.

    The main thing about Fate is the Holy Grail War. Everything revolves around it and that's what makes it hard to cross it over to HPverse. How can the writer explain Servant Summoning on HPverse? A mythic hero would completely devastate HPvers's equilibrium as they are really overpowered.

    Well, Shezza managed to cross Dresden/HP with their magical Fae creatures and fallen angels so it might be possible.

    Going back to the Grail War, we COULD use this as a driving force for Voldemort. He discovers this ritual and decides to pursue it. He can use it's power as well because he's all evil and the Grail... well that'd be spoilers.

    As for the MC, it's either Harry or Shirou. We can make allowances for the side characters (Rin, Hermione, Ron, etc.) but we can't have 2 MCs. It just can't work in Crossovers.

    I'm thinking along the lines of mixing their two personalities together... and putting Harry as the MC instead. It should catch fire more so than having Shirou.

    As for why Harry's the hero syndrome, we might be able to use Shirou's past as a basis for Harry's instead of sticking to the canon. With Shirou's determination in Harry's personality, it should enable Harry to become a force to be reckoned with.
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    We can try and have the Grail War on Europe instead of Japan as a crossover. Privet Drive just being in the vicinity of the war and collateral damage. Fire everywhere etc.

    Afterwards, we could bridge the difference through a longstanding, secret disagreement and truce between two powerful factions, The Clock Tower and the Wand Mages (Hogwarts, Durmstrung etc.) which is broken because Harry, a wand wizard, gets trained by a Clocktower Mage (Kiritsugu maybe?) and then, seeks asylum in Hogwarts after being tracked down by the Clock Tower.
     
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  5. Otters

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    Everything can be crossed over, and will be a crossover of everything you use things from. It is not disqualified from being a crossover if you don't use Harry Potter as a protagonist, just like fics starring Ginny Weasley as a protagonist are still Harry Potter fanfiction. The "Harry Potter" in "Harry Potter Crossover" means the series, not the character.

    There are two main kinds of crossovers: a character is transplanted into another universe after or during their canon story, or the settings are merged.

    For examples, the Prince Who Was Promised features a transplanted Harry. The HP/Avatar crossover is a merging of the two settings.

    You can't claim that one fandom unbalanced the other in a crossover, because that's all about balance, and can be done perfectly under the control of the author. If one universe has incredibly powerful magic, those characters might have those abilities restricted, like Harry's lack of a wand in The Prince Who Was Promised. Or the other characters gain similar powers to match, such as in all those Naruto crossovers where Harry learns ninja abilities. If the settings are merged, everyone is running off the same system of magic, whether its a hybrid of the two sources or just one of them transposed into another setting.

    Generally, crossovers are filed under the protagonist's home fandom. People browsing the HP section and finding another protagonist will react to it in the same way they would some weird OC, unless they already know the other fandom.

    You seem quite conflicted over who to use as your protagonist, and clearly want both. Having one "reborn" as the other is a common crossover tool. That way you can use both, to some extent.
     
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    That's an awfully optimistic way of viewing it, because you're inferring that the author is always that responsible. I've seen plenty that aren't. I can name at least one piece of fanfiction off the top of my head where the author crossed two settings with wildly disparate settings in terms of general power level (Dresden Files/Percy Jackson), and made absolutely zero effort to mitigate anything. It was just demigods punching Red Court vampires so hard they explode and generally making everyone who "didn't know they [demigods] existed" shit themselves. Harry wasn't even a factor. In, like, anything.

    So it's definitely on the author or writer to shoulder that and make things interesting. It is a burden that they must bare, not a problem that solves itself. It is entirely possible to fuck this up royally, and whether your fic is a decent piece of literature or a shitfic that wastes e-space can be the difference that getting it right makes.

    Just to go ahead and use my example as a teachable moment, one way that such a crossover could have been made to work is if this particular person had decided to run with the Dresdenverse idea that most gods are asleep or inactive. Take the gods out of the picture almost entirely, and assume that their various scions are completely normal people whose powers have remained inert throughout their bloodlines because they have had no contact with the real thing, or because their godly ancestor is still asleep or inactive themselves.

    So the Olympians are completely gone from the picture, except for the occasional dream or vision, and the powers of the demigods is limited in scope, because the Stars and Stones have yet to awaken from their slumber.

    Most of the cast from Jackson could be incorporated seamlessly into the cast of the Dresden Files, because they're normal people who suddenly start showing extraordinary powers for some reason right out of the blue. They're the people around Chicago who ask Harry for advice, or Paranetters that help others or keep a finger on the pulse of the supernatural for clues as to who and what they themselves are.

    It wouldn't be difficult at all to involve everyone together. The villains of the story could be the Fomor or the Circle or anyone else who might have ill intentions to do with gods and their scions and the world in general, things start going to hell in ways that the White Council either doesn't notice or can't do anything about, throw in Harry getting involved because he's a Warden or because his friends start disappearing and he's not just going to stand by and do nothing, add in a dash of the Oblivion Wars to set the stakes, and serve shaken, not stirred, over ice.

    And who knows? Maybe, just maybe, by the end of this whole fiasco, the blood of Harry's father will turn out to be just as important as the blood of his mother.

    Basically this. There's no reason Harry and Shirou can't be the same person. Harry could be reborn as Shirou, Shirou could be reborn as Harry, Harry and Shirou could be alternate universe versions of each other (and the death of one 'before their time' requires the other to "finish the job"), ect, ect.

    You're only limited by your own imagination. Don't listen to people telling you that you can't cross something just because there is a disconnect between the two. Sometimes that's what makes a crossover good. I saw a thing once upon a time where Rorshach from Watchmen was dimensionally displaced when he died, and wound up in fucking Equestria. The entire short was about him going mad because he thought the communist-socialist utopia of cartoon characters worshiping a pagan deity was some kind of hallucination or a trap set for him by the enemies of America. It ended with him snapping when they threw him a surprise party to cheer him up, and he ran off into the forest screaming about revenge.

    That is a thing. It happened. And it was hilarious and dark and sad, i.e. absolutely perfect for what it needed to be.

    Don't let anyone tell you that you can't do something just because "you can't cross Harry Potter with an Anime."

    I can think of a bunch of them that you could cross with Harry Potter.

    Harry Potter goes to highschool, ends up in the same class as Haruhi Suzumiya, and gets recruited to her club for being "a wizard and a Chosen One." It's all complete rubbish. . . until he starts making things happen by thinking about it.

    Harry Potter is Negi Springfield.

    Magic, and all things magical, are dying for no reason anyone can easily explain. Harry finds out that magic is not originally of this world, and finds a way to travel to the "Old World" of magic to try and rectify the problem. This could in turn be used to transport Harry pretty much anywhere you wanted him to go, anime or not. Want something grim and dark with horrible implications? Harry winds up in Berserk. Maybe you like high fantasy more? You've got Dragon Warrior, any of the Final Fantasies, and dozens of anime and manga settings that involve high magic and high adventure to one degree or another to choose from.

    There is no limit. So long as you spend the five minutes necessary to justify and explain what's going on, you can do whatever the hell you want. And the difference between a good or excellent crossover, as opposed to an okay or bad one, is whether or not you're willing to put in the effort to not only explain what is going on and get everything evened out, but also whether or not you weave the two settings together into something where they compliment and play off of each other, as opposed to stepping on each others toes and generally making a mess of things.

    It is you, your effort, that will determine whether this is good or not. Not the inherent qualities of the idea itself.
     
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    More that they should be that responsible than that they actually are. I'm sure I've also inferred in the past that authors generally use things like punctuation and grammar, although we all know there's a boatload who are somewhat selective about those things.
     
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    I actually prefer it when the power disparity between two universes aren't changed at all and kept as is. I don't understand why there needs to be 'balance' between characters and universes. In my opinion, its far more interesting to have a struggle wherein there's a clear dominant side than a conflict where both sides are evenly matched - because this balance is usually created through very contrived means and hence, feels false.
     
  9. joshuafaramir

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    I do understand that it's always up to the author how the crossover plays out but it can't be denied that there are always exceptions to that rule. No matter how creative, how ingenious the author is, there's always a story that's inherently opposed to the xxx-verse you're going to mix. Even if the author succeeds, the result would have to be completely different from canon. Personalities are changed in such a way that the main character hardly resembles the canon at all. The author just might as well create a new character and stamp Harry Potter and call it "the new and improved HP".

    While I admire changes, I also want to at least maintain a sense of realism to the author's version of their MC. Some things that are so deeply ingrained in a MCs personality should not be removed. Strengthen yes. Weaken yes. But to completely change or remove such trait is paramount to creating a whole new character with a Harry Potter name.

    Admittedly, I have read and enjoyed fics that are in complete contrast to HP cannon. However only to those who gives the reader sufficient amount of explanation as to how and why the MC ended up the way he is. But I digress.

    Ultimately, for the crossover to work and to ease the strain of difficulty in writing it, I would assume the more similar the setting is, the more streamline the transit would be in connecting both universes.

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    I somewhat agree, yet disagree with you there. There is a need for balance in crossovers. The author can't just connect two universes without somehow balancing the powers at be.

    Imagine putting Superman in HPverse. He'd probably kick everybody's ass, get the girl, and save the world without breaking a sweat.

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    Some balance is needed, note that it is not necessary to change things - it is about how things interact and it is fully decided by author of crossover.

    Example of completely unbalanced crossover (intentional, but it would not work for story longer than oneshot): http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8436276/1/Different-Strokes-for-Different-Folks

    D&D magic is even more powerful than HP one, but http://www.fanfiction.net/s/8096183/1/Harry-Potter-and-the-Natural-20 is perfectly balanced as D&D character is low level one and overpowered magic is not used or currently available.
     
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    One of Superman's weaknesses is magic, so maybe not.

    I'm not familiar with this "Fate" show you're referring to (though I've heard some things about it, I think -- is this where that girl!King Arthur character comes from?), but it seems to me that it would be a Harry Potter crossover regardless of whether Harry stepped into that universe or the character from that anime stepped into the HP universe.
     
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    What about if you're talking about a HP/ASOIAF crossover, like The Prince Who Was Promised? A fully realized, talented wanded HP wizard would be unstoppable. I mean, I see where you're coming from, but sometimes changes just gotta be made.
     
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    Yeah, King Arthur was supposedly a girl in her 15-16 years and did not age hereby retaining her still developing figure. Also the cause for Lancelot's and Guinevere's betrayal.

    However, that's just minor stuff. Nasuverse is as complex as HPverse or more.
    Err... forgot about that. Superman, well, he can travel faster than bullet speed. There's no way he's gonna get hit with magic with his enhanced perception.

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    Anyhow, I'm all for equalizing the power base between the two universes but what about Character personality? Is it okay to completely redo the canon MCs character?
     
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    Ok so, HP fusions finally have a bit more acceptance which means it's time for... HP/GUNDAM CROSSOVERS

    Hogwarts School of Piloting and Diplomacy is the focal, neutral, source of the majority of the world's greatest mobile suit pilots for more than half a century, when a terrifying seemingly unkillable pilot who does not appear in the records starts wreaking havoc in the name of the Earthnoids. Obviously Voldemort is a cunt.

    The story most likely isn't set in the UC timeline though that could work, just a general gundam universe.

    The powerful people are varying levels of Newtypes, with Potter being the rough classic type established who are unaware, and Voldemort more fitting the bizarre Lalah Sune abilities.
     
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    ^ Funny. I was just thinking of the same exact example. GUNDAMS.
     
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    You can always do anything when it comes to writing. I can't think of any hard-fast rules when it comes to writing. You don't even need to write grammatically well to write a good story (many famous stories/poems are intentionally written with wrong/odd grammar). 'You can do anything' is true to the extent that a master-author could write an amazing story doing all TELL and zero SHOW; yet we don't advise most authors to even attempt this, for good reasons.

    But when I said earlier that you 'shouldn't' do something, I mean it as advice in a vague, 'it's going to be hard if you do it' sense. It's hard to write a good HP/GUNDAM crossover, because let's face it, giant robots and magic probably don't mix well (and magic is rather integral to HP, Harry's character is partly defined by the fact he's a wizard and had to endure wizard culture and education, if he were a gundam pilot, it'd make the purpose of a HP crossover kind of moot).

    You COULD write it such that Harry constructs a gundam-golem or something using magic, or any number of potential ideas - if you're creative you can do anything, but the ease of it is an important factor. Fate/HP are "applicable" in the sense that they easily get along in some respects. Of course, a Fate/HP crossover has the potential to be awful. Why? Because Japanese culture doesn't mix well with HP. Putting Harry in Japan under normal circumstances (he's not summoned as a servant) is pretty contrived and likely full of awful cliches ("Harry learns kung fu" "Harry speaks perfect Japanese 'Arigatou Wizard-san'" "Harry starts wearing a kimono and carrying a katana") that result in a superficial or poorly developed character. Could you write a good story with all those elements? Sure, absolutely. Would it be easy to get it right? No, as evidenced by the cringe-worthy writing that has graced the review board in the past. Can Shirou be born in the UK? I suppose so, it wouldn't be hard to say something like, "Kiritsugu wanted to raise Shirou when he found him, but was too weak to, so he knew some mercs in the UK who could raise him in his stead." But then, what's the plot? What's the conflict? Who is Shirou now? You've basically changed his character, if Kiritsugu doesn't raise him. Well, you've changed some pretty defining characteristics. He could still become hero-obsessed, but it would feel slightly contrived. And to say that Harry and Shirou are alike enough to merge them... well, I'd disagree, and since it's a crossover, you'd kind of kill my interest for misrepresenting Shirou and Harry as characters, though maybe others would like your story.

    Maybe what I want to say is... At what point does the crossover stop making sense? At what point do you say, "Well, we could just drop the crossover and use a few OCs and it'd probably make just as much sense." If you have to modify characters and story elements enough that they stop being from other universes, you don't really have a crossover, or do you?
     
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    That's exactly what I'm saying! For a cross-over to be successful, one must carefully consider the premise, the setting, and the personalities of the universes involved. I've read many HP-crossovers that are great but ultimately, they are no longer Harry but rather, OCs with the name Harry.

    That is why I considered HP/Fate crossover because there's so much similarities that the two universes have and can be easily bridged with enough background info.

    As per my example before. Voldemort successfully curses Harry. They both go out with a bang. Couple of years later, the Holy Grail War erupts not in Japan, but in Europe (entirely plausible) Kiritsugu got sent to the War and participates. War ends with colossal fire that engulfs a wide area including Privet Drive. Harry loses everything.

    From that point onwards, the author has a free reign on how to develop Harry/Shirou character. He might have Harry believe he is Shirou for the 1st part of the story before he gets his letter from Hogwarts. From then on, Harry/Shirou can begin diverging from pure cannon Shirou heroism to a mixture of Harry/Shirou.

    Then we'd have an overarching plot of Clock Tower (pure development of wandless magic) vs. Wand Magics. Tension between the two is near the breaking point and Harry gets caught in between because of his history with both factions. As an inherited son of the Magus killer, he's being considered important by the Clocktower all the while being the child of the prophecy, Wand Mages have claim on him.

    Insert Voldemort's interest towards the Clock Tower in his search for power and stumbles upon the Grail War. So we have a triple confrontation between Clock Tower, Wand Mages, and Voldemort faction. War ensures and all the while, competition for the Grail War is happening underneath the Wand Mage war etc.

    With Clock Tower magus participating in the Grail War under Wand Mages territory, it further strains the relationship between the two. We'll have Harry go to Hogwarts during the day, and Grail War during the night. Voldemort plans on jumping one of the participants and succeeds. War is declared between the two.
     
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    Hey, I think there's a story like that or something?

    What's it called?

    Mandelbrot? Julia series?

    OH RIGHT.

    Eurgh, it's just on the tip of my tongue. I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME. It's like... I can't find it. It's in the DLP library or something...

    There's like, 60k words, and the author told me he took hundreds of hours and two years of writing and rewriting to get there.

    It might even be on the first page of the WbA. I CAN'T THINK OF IT I GIVE UP.

    -.-
     
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    Except you run the risk of pissing off the people who are fans of the character whose body your protagonist just got reborn into.

    Those kinds of people could very well feel like your antagonist has stolen and destroyed everything about the person they were reincarnated as.

    I seethe with hatred when people write fics where Xander is reborn as Harry. Fuck Xander; fuck that magic-stealing muggle right in the ass. :fire



    Although...
    ...this has just given me an idea for a one-shot where Xander is 'reborn' as Harry, and trots around wearing his body, up until he starts getting Hogwarts Letters. This learning magic business, he thinks, will be pretty slick. For once, he'll be the one using the voodoo, instead of the buttmonkey who gets the magical syphilis because he's always magic's victim.

    Willow is summoned from the afterlife or wherever by the Powers That Be, for the purpose of exorcising a pair of unwelcome spirits from the body of this reality's prophesied Chosen One, or else 'all is doomed'™.

    She's horrified when she finds Harry and discovers that one of the two unwanted spirits is her old pal Xander, but (after his undignified attempt at negotiating an indefinitely extended stay) she ousts him anyway (along with the Voldemort fragment) and sends the trespasser back to the afterlife where he belongs.

    Because fuck Xander. No lofty reasons, here.

    I think fanfic, more than the show itself, is to blame for my occasional anti-Xander moods.

    Lulz.

    Anything that focuses on the supernatural can have Harry shoehorned into it, really. One may need to tweak a few things here and there, but there are harder crossovers to make work...

    Things that could work:
    Dance in the Vampire Bund
    Highschool of the Dead
    Bakemonogatari
    Occult Academy (Hello?)
    Blood+...

    Although, I admit, the above could also easily turn into curbstomps, with a competent wizard involved.

    I have about 50k words of fic that say HP/Neon Genesis Evangelion could work... if I weren't genetically fifty percent Slowbro.

    They already have various magic users and "espers" in the Index/Railgun universe, and a cast of a zillion characters, so I find it (7k+ words worth of) hard to believe that a good Harry Potter crossover couldn't come from that fertile ground.

    Although, every last one of those zillion characters is warm for Touma's form, so good luck pairing one with Harry. :awesome

    Considering how militant and high-handed the magical divisions of various churches are in that setting, I could easily see the Wizarding World butting heads with them in a major way.

    A likely plot for a story could involve some figure in the shadows trying to orchestrate a knock-down, drag-out fight between those two general groups. It could be one church playing the wizards against the other religious groups, or it could be the hidden puppet masters in Academy City hoping to spark a conflict between the wizards and churches that would wipe out ALL the magicals, leaving only espers and high technology at the top of the food chain.

    Just dump the HP character of your choice into the middle of the conflict. They could be actively fighting one of the churches, or might have already twigged to the manipulation going on and are investigating who's behind it, or whatever.

    Maybe the British wizards, possibly in the wake of Voldemort's final defeat, are finally catching up with what's going on outside their corner of the of the world, and all this 'esper' business is news to them; and not a little bit troubling. Perhaps they send someone (or a team of someones) to Academy City with the mission of covertly seeing what it's all about. Things could go badly if some of those wizards underestimate the locals, are trigger happy, and just plain not good with foreigners.

    One way or another, Harry and/or his friends may get stuck with cleaning up the mess, in whatever form it takes.

    Of course, if a baser-instinct-pleasing curbstomp is what you're looking for, any HP witch or wizard with a little bit of skill would be able to negate Accelerator's abilities, allowing them to completely trounce the ever-lovin' shit out of that white-haired douche of a Hot-Topic refugee.

    Harry ends up with just as many girls and for far less compelling reasons in scores of fics, so why not?

    He could be in the same boat as Negi, they're both more or less on their own, family-wise, although the notion Dumbledore or anyone else in HP canon would let a preteen wizard off the apron strings to go to another country and teach, as the last part of their magical schooling, would be kind of far-fetched. That's where the plot would need massaged into shape.

    Lodoss War, Claymore, (*snicker*) Tower of Druaga.

    Inuyasha. :|

    Or, friggin' Zero no Tsukaima, since it seems like it's half ripped off from Harry Potter, anyway. :p

    Queen's Blade: Though, I imagine ninety percent of attempts at that one would be poorly written smut, divided between fics where Harry gathers a harem comprised mostly of the competing main characters, and stories where Hermione somehow ends up in the Queen's Blade setting, unwittingly finds herself competing, then barely puts up a token resistance to the smutty situations she ends up getting dragged into, one after another.

    The Basilisk, Princess Mononoke, or Ninja Scroll settings could turn into another wizard-dominated bloodbath, unless you removed wands from the equation - in which case, a wizard like Harry might have to actually work to stay alive, using things like apparating and being an animagus to their best possible advantage.

    Heck, one little mistake in whatever method the character uses to try and reach the 'Old World' could land them in alternate realities, like the settings of anything from Dog Days to Strike Witches, or... I don't know, going the 'wrong way' and ending up in Trinity Blood or Trigun.

    I'll leave FMA alone.
     
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    They do not, and they are not. The only thing the universes have in common is the existence of magic and being located on modern Earth. The magic systems are radically different, though. To be magi is to walk with death. It's incredibly dangerous and difficult. Magic Circuits. Od and Prana. The more a certain magecraft is known, the weaker it gets. People have talents and focus only on a tiny portion of the world's available magecraft. The threats in Nasuverse are also epic and world-ending. In Harry Potter, you get a wand, wave it around while saying some words, and boom, you get magic. You don't run out of it, everyone can learn basically everything, and Voldemort is about the worst there is. As for True Magic, the sheer scale and power of it is way beyond HP magic. Only time travel comes even close. They are wildly different worlds and magic systems, and they don't mesh together especially well at all.
     
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