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Battle School Mafia

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Eidolonic, Jul 12, 2013.

  1. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    maybe

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  2. Fenraellis

    Fenraellis Chief Warlock

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    Oh, never mind. Just re-read it, heh.
     
  3. Uncle Stojil

    Uncle Stojil Auror

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    fontisian: I'll give you 3/5 for the assignment. Almost recommended material.

    And what a fine strategy that would be, let me tell you. /sigh

    I don't get it. What separation or backtracking can you gain from leaving your vote on a bandwagon (I'm using the word very liberally, here, since it's just you on it) that "is not going anywhere at this point"?

    No explanation and no room for uncertainty. Bloody great.

    I never did it, actually, not that I can remember, so I don't know what she's talking about, there. fontisian?

    Anyway, I'm going to bed. This day 1 has been pretty crappy as far as activity goes, but hopefully jwlk and LochNess will appear soon and the lurkers will start actually playing. Night.
     
  4. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    Stojil's right. Do you want to elaborate on this?

    No constructive critism?

    You were the the Joker in Gotham Mafia and you got a Joker/Harry Potter avatar as joke at the begining of the game.

    ---------- Post automerged at 06:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:16 PM ----------

    How did that quoting monstrosity even happen?

    Mod-Edit: I fixed it, I think this is what you wanted. -Sesc
     
  5. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    The "point" is only meta if you squint and are desperate to avoid looking at the actual problems.

    What I meant in regards to Kalas was that not only did you have a strong opinion about him, but he also got your first vote -- the joke vote, right at the beginning, remember? If it's coincidence, that's quite unfortunate.

    The entire situation how you came to proclaim Kalas town was weird as well. You put his name out there, Rubicon thankfully picks it up, throws it back to you, and you finish it.

    That feels so artificial it hurts. The same thing happened before, actually, it was what kicked this off:

    Lots of penalties set up just waiting to be finished. Just about the only thing that keeps me from putting down Rubicon/Bill Door/Kalas/Moridin as Mafia is that it is perfectly unlikely I should get so lucky figuring things out. That does not, however, put Bill Door out of the race -- his posts are vague, bland, passive and always the easy way out, and that has nothing to do with Meta.


    That aside, Schrodinger is the new Aekiel. There are much better targets. You are voting, in essence, to remove the derping, which may make the game more agreeable, but is exceedingly unhelpful in figuring out connections, since everyone agrees on Schrodinger. It's the easy target, and this means Mafia can just roll with it effortless if he is Town.
     
  6. Striker

    Striker What's up demons?

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    Wetnurse:

    I'm well aware of how Day 1 lynches work. I was pointing out that the posts I quoted from you weren't saying that at all. So either you communicated your idea terribly, or you tried to sneak a useless Day 1 kill and are now backpedaling. Time will tell, I suppose.

    I think you need to rewrite this paragraph. It's gibberish right now.

    You can do whatever you want with your scumlist. You can throw Eido on it if you want. Hell, you can jot down Santa Clause and President Obama as scum too, while you're at it. The problem is that won't help town any, just like having more people on your scumlist than can possibly be scum won't help.

    The entire point of a scum list is to give town what you think is a viable scum team. So buckle down on your reads, weed people out, and make your wall viable. Because it isn't helping anyone as is.

    I'm not going to harp on this anymore than I already have, but I will say that if Rubicon claims Ender later on and points to the one-off vanilla claim he made at the beginning of Day 1 as his proof, I will hang him from the noose myself.

    fontisian:

    Not all of them. I share several opinions with other people, but that happens.

    His most recent post at the time of this quote didn't have anything in it that I thought was significant or that I hadn't already commented on, which is why there wasn't anything on it in my previous post. His most recent post as of now, however, does. So I'll do that one instead.

    Fenraellis:

    You don't get to make this excuse. Your lynch vote on Rubicon isn't semi-justified. It isn't even close. We're nearing the end of Day 1, with pages upon pages of discussion to base your vote on, and you're sticking with a joke from the very first page as your primary reason for your vote.

    It's wasteful, and it doesn't make any sense.

    No, us ardent antagonists are pressuring you because it's been three days and you're still keeping your lynch vote on a wagon that you yourself have explicitly admitted isn't going anywhere. Why would we, as Rubicon's scumbuddies, attack you for leaving your vote on a lynch that isn't going to happen? That would help us.

    So you're right. It is strange. Or rather, it would be strange if we were scum and not just infuriated with your useless vote.

    :facepalm
     
  7. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    The part where I dissapeared? Or the part where you think your a lot better at this then you are?
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    Bill's I deserve to be on no one's town list.
     
  8. Fenraellis

    Fenraellis Chief Warlock

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    Eh, I'm mostly just baffled/suspicious why my one vote on Rubicon has garnered so much attention and focus, even now when it's largely irrelevant, when there are other one-off votes currently active as well.

    I could just as easily vote Schro now, but he's already at soft-lynch anyway. Then again, three of the names voting for him are in that correlated list, so I'm not even sure that's a good idea anymore either. Might be better than nothing, and the result might be telling in and of itself, though.

    Hmmm.

    Thinking things are more and more likely, honestly. Day 1 vote, and all it's legitimacy, or lack of it, makes most anyone unjustified truly. So, really, this hyper focus is suspicious as all hell. If anything, while I might not have given Rubicon much credence before, this multi-pronged defense has made him seem even worse.


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  9. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    Fenraellis, it has nothing to do with Rubicon in particular, and everything with you sitting in a comfy chair and not doing anything to help the game.
     
  10. Striker

    Striker What's up demons?

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    Disliking a useless vote =/= Scum piling on you for lynching their buddy

    But yeah, I'll stop talking about it since you're completely ignoring what I'm saying. Just give me a list of your three most solid scum reads and your reasoning for them, please.

    ---------- Post automerged at 08:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:07 PM ----------

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  11. Typhon

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    Post incoming within the hour. Just letting you guys know.
     
  12. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    ...Okay, putting aside the game for the moment, that sounds like you're pissed at me for real and I'm sorry for causing that.

    Nothing I say in a mafia game is meant to be personal, I like everyone in this game including you, and - however it comes across in text - I'm not actually sitting here behind my keyboard thinking how fucking amazing I am at this internet message board game and how I can read you and Menace and everyone else with 100% confidence and no room for doubt on page 7 of the thread.

    I think that acting confident and aggressive can be a very effective technique for finding scum and getting people to lynch the person you think needs to be lynched. It's especially useful on D1 when there's not a lot to work with and creating conflict gets the discussion moving in a helpful direction. I thought those of you who've played with me before already realized I did this consciously, maybe not - but that's all there is to my playstyle.

    If this is going beyond the game and affecting how you think of me in general, I'll dial it back.
     
  13. SmileOfTheKill

    SmileOfTheKill Magical Amber

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    I'm so bloody sorry. I am playing with my little sister, 8 years old. I haven't seen her since last year before I went to unvi. I do exist, but real life stuff has distracted me.

    Unvote: Aekiel
    Vote: Schro


    Post 89 still bothers me. After that, everyone continues to argue with everyone else, but Schro does not really dealt with any of that and hell, he is one of the best possible scum leads that is doing the least.
     
  14. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    He really, really is not. He's merely the easy answer if you don't want to waste more than 3 paragraphs and five minutes for a post.

    Case in point: You didn't even check the vote count. We're now at 7/10. Can we please not do it that way?
     
  15. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Who do you want to lynch? Bill?
     
  16. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    @Stojil, you asked for my comments on Riley's post. It's a mixture of wishy-washy stuff, trivia and odd ideas. Examples for either, in the order of mentioning: myself ("He may be town but I'd be worried about him."), jwlk ("Is silent with no attempts at response so far.") and Fenraellis and yourself ("Not sure if scum or just quiet town but I'll let it go for now with more dangerous players still alive.", "Always a dangerous player").

    The latter goes into Schrodinger territory. Also nice is Menace ("Never played with him, I'll lean on others analysis for now. Quiet scum.")

    In other words, the post could be condensed to half of its length and not lose anything. What stands out is everything solid -- that is, two Towncasts for Bill Door (which is contradicted(?) by his comment on Typhon -- "a bit pointed towards Bill and Wetnurse, but I have similar gut feelings") and SotK, either of which makes no sense on its own, and together they make him look quite bad.

    That said, Riley always gives off odd impressions, so at this stage, I'm happier to vote for someone he says is Town, than to vote for Riley himself :p


    @Rubicon: Why the question?
     
  17. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Because I'm curious to know?
     
  18. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    ... if I didn't want him lynched, why would my vote be where it is, and why would I waste my time trying to build a case here?

    And just FYI, that is the second time you were the mouthpiece for him.
     
  19. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Quite a few different reasons, I imagine.

    Not sure how asking you who you want to lynch makes me a mouthpiece for Bill, though. That's a weird thing to say.
     
  20. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    I have to apologize Rubicon. Its super humid and its been one of those days. Completely channeled that onto you.
     
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