I'll admit that I didn't even notice Bill Door until Sesc and the others started gunning for him, which is a bad thing in and of itself. I find myself agreeing with most of the points Moridin has broughtt against him so far as well. Here's the thing though. Schrodinger had yet to post that analysis he promised, and until he does I can't (won't, whatever) take my vote off him. If he gets it in before the end of the day, and it isn't complete garbage like his other posts, I'll switch over.

 

Like I said, there's little to no defense for Schrodinger. If he was scum, I highly doubt his scummates would simply let him fall. Now, sure. Earlier? Sesc made a couple of posts about how Schrodinger isn't an optimal target because everybody agrees. My point is that if he was scum, I doubt we would have seen that initial rush of complete agreement in the first place. Not to mention there would have been at least a little coaching to get him to post some content to alleviate the suspicions. Instead we have nothing. Only Sesc saying he isn't a useful lynch, and then Fenraellis later hedging his bets by arguing that Schrodinger isn't a useful target.

If Schrodinger was scum, there would have been more than just Sesc, imo. All his scummates would be working to move focus on to someone else - something that did somewhat happen with Smile earlier, but didn't really happen with Schrodinger. This is why I feel that Schrodinger is likely just playing bad, and mafia is using that to lynch.

Consider if Schrodinger flips scum. What then? Sesc, presumably. Who else? There aren't really any connections there. If he flips town?

Now consider if Bill flips scum. All the connections I pointed out above become extremely viable, and like I said, this was an analysis focused on posts by and referring to Smile, and the Bill connections developed peripherally. An analysis of Bill would likely yield much more. If he flips town? Then we revisit Schrodinger, as well as all the people who marked him down as town when he wasn't all that productive, since they'd have the knowledge of alignment necessary to try and buddy up to someone who would flip town on death.

tl;dr Plenty of people have spoken both ways regarding Bill, whereas it's been more one sided for Schrodinger.

 

Alright Moridin, if this fails, well. We'll see.

Rescind Vote
Vote: Bill Door.

 

There's no way I'll be awake for two more hours, so in that case we're going to need Riley to switch as well for that to be viable. I saw Kalas in here earlier too.

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Okay, good. I'll be up for a few more minutes, but beyond that this is likely my last post of the day. So I'll leave the switch in your hands, shall I, Menace? Switching now would pull Schrodinger off soft lynch, so it would be pointless as far as what you want goes.

 

...you're voting Bill Door. You have been on him for quite some time now.

 

Yes, and I was debating switching over to Schro. Indecisiveness is my defining trait, Stojil.

 

Hey guys. Just checking in. I'll post any initial reads and my lynch vote after re-reading the thread.

 

I'm still working on my post, sorry, guys. We have two hours and this is the first time I've tried actually analyzing shit. So far I've got Wetnurse, Fontisan Moridin, Sesc as my good list, unsure on Typhon, Kalas, Stojil, riley and smile, scum for Bill Door, Menace, Aekiel, Rents, Rubicon, and Fen. This is circa the last post of page six (currently starting page seven) I just didn't want people to think I promised analysis and then dissapeared. HAven't read anything since my promise for analysis either so if any new revelations, will catch up to them in my bigger post. Also, should I directly paste my somewhat incomprehensible notes, or clean them up into a post?

 

You said he was the classic easy target to take advantage of. You even used that in the case you mounted against Bill.

This looks very suspicious.

Riley: can you point out connections between players?

 

Directly copy pasting from the qt is a nono. Just get as much as you can on the board, even if you have to go

"Disjointed musing: wordswordswords"

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Well if we were wondering where the last minute hail mary was.. waiting on Schro's analysis. To decide my vote (still leaning Schro atm).

Bill Door's lynch is a good case, but I can't help but feel given the high powered nature of the set up Schro has some kind of one shot Moridin wants to get off.

 

I understand that I've been absent, I've been afk for the majority of the last two days because rl is hectic. only been able to read from my phone.

Until next day phase I won't be able to provide an indepth readthrough of stuff and review so here's hoping i make it through Night.

honestly I usually trust Moridin, he doesn't fell scummy here so I guess I'll have to
Rescind Vote

Vote: Bill Door

I don't have any strong feelings either way, but Schro tends to really really derp like this no matter what he is so I think it makes sense to put money on someone who might be a bit more telling.

 

This is partially incorrect.

You cannot post anything that resembles QT timestamp/username, and you cannot post any message coming from me. You CAN copy your notes into the thread of you so desire, if you make them in your QuickTopic.

 

Alright, I have a half second, and I think I'm caught up. It looks like a Bill Door lynch is coming together at the last second here... Normally that would make me nervous as hell, since Schrodinger basically just waited until everybody got bored with the wagon and jumped on the new propped up target. On the other hand, it's Bill, and Bill is one of my main scumspects, and probably the most dangerous of them, so I approve.

As a side note, Rents didn't post for almost the entire 96 hour game day, popped in minutes before the vote, and put down what could well be the deciding vote... Because he trusts in Moridin. Noted. Definitely noted.

 

Bob99 has replaced Jwlk effective immediately.

There is like, an hour left in the day. And 8-9 minutes.

Go up and look at the timer, I'm lazy.

 

My bad Schro. Hour left though, time to post (we need time to read it)

 

Fuckin' finally caught up.
Alright. I went through the thread, taking notes as I went and putting little pluses and minuses by actions I thought were towny or scummy respectively. First, my analysis of my bandwagon: Page five, pretty much everyone sees me as derpy town. Aek is the first to put me on his scumlist. followed by Moridin, and then Rents. Moridin has solid reasoning, but I severely disliked the cut of Rents' jib.
So, we have:
Aekiel: (10 Posts) +--+--(overall, -4) He's become less negative since my page six/seven analysis, but I still don't like it. Particularly damming, to me is his association with rents and his endorsement of Rubicon, who are scum to me. He's not my number one, but he's up there.
Bill Door: (13 posts) +----- (overall, -4) I feel like bill has been doing a whole shitload of absolutely nothing, which I dislike. Most of his posts weren't even worth + or - to me because they said so very little. His noncomittal status makes me lean to him being scum.
Fenraellis: (12 posts) ------ (overall, -5) I did not manage to find a single useful thing Fen has done: he's been a complete idiot throughout and through. If not scum, then still stupidfuckhead.
Fontisian: (11 posts) ++-++ (Overall, +3) Aside from some minor problems, I like Fontisan's analysis and what she's done. Her analysis of Bill door largely contributed to my standing on him. She's town in my books.
Jwlk: (0 posts, will be replaced. Fuckface.)
Kalas: (12 posts) +---+-++(-1) Kalas had a lot of early problems, but I feel like he's getting better. More importantly, I think his problems were with him as a player, not the fact that he's scum. I'm tentatively neutral on him.
LochNess->Caser: (0 posts, replaced by someone with one post.)
Menace: (9 posts) --- (-3) Overall, all his posts were either scummy, copied in idea from other people, or worse. He originally voted for Aek, then carefully distanced himself from him while still putting him down as town. I feel that if either Aek or Menace are town, both are, but am leaning to neither.
Moridin: (9 posts)++-+++++(+6) He's my strongest town read. My only minus for him was on a connection between Rubicon and Wetnurse, which I disagree with. He's been consistently and intelligently aggressive. Also, he's been defending me, which is nice and adds him to town in my book. I hope he doesn't get NK'd.
Rents: (3 Posts) Do I need to say anything? He's either scum, an idiot, or just plain useless.
Riley Poole: (8 posts) +-- (-1) I don't have much to say about Riley. He was overdefensive, early on, but in a 'waaah I hate everyone for calling me scum in previous games' way than in a 'I AM SCUM' way, so he's pretty neutral for me. Most of his analysis has nothing original or interesting to it.
Rubicon: (23 posts) ------+-+--- (-8) One of my strongest scum reads. He was overaggressive early on, he voted for Menace and then changed his mind for what I feel was inadequately good reason, and voted for me out of the blue to add to the bandwagon. Maybe he's just a dick, but I feel that scum is more likely in this case.
Me: (16) Basically an idiot, but I know they aren't scum.
Sesc: (7 posts)+-+++++ (+5) His first post bothered me a bit, but since then he has been proactive. He's my second best town read after Moridin, and I suspect a likely NK target. I like most of what he's posted and written.
SmileoftheKill (17 posts)++--+- (overall rating: zero) I don't know about Smile. Some of his posts were good, some were bad. He was over defensive when he wasn't being accused of much, and not defensive enough when he was. He's been acting rather erratically, but I don't feel like it was done as a scum strategy. I'm not really getting a read on him.
Typhon: (10 posts) +-+-+ (+1) I'm also unsure about Typhon. I felt his original excuse for voting fontisan was kind of meh: he chastised several people for not participating enough, but 'forgot' aekiel. If I wasn't suspicious of aekiel as is, this wouldn't be problematic, but since I am, it is. I honestly can't tell either way.
Uncle Stojil: (12 posts) +-++--+- (0) Maybe it's just because of my initial suspicions, or because he's been targeting me more than a little bit, I'm not exactly a big fan of Stoj. I disagree with a few of his judgements, but I think he's doing more good then harm at the moment, even if he is scum. I apoligize for my over dramatic accusation earlier.
Wetnurse: (9 posts)+-++++ (+4) WetNurse reads as town to me, albeit not overly strongly. I feel most of their mistakes can be put down to genuine mistakes, and a lot of hate they got is from trying to manage the backlash from them. Maybe not the strongest/best townie, but a townie nevertheless.
Conclusion: If people want to lynch me, that's fine, because then mOridin will have a stronger case, but I think Bill Door is a better target.
Unvote.
VOTE: Bill Door
Sidenote: I have a hilarious idea for a Mafia game I want to run now.

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-8, not the damn smiley face.

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Forty five minutes left. Fuck.

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Anyways. I really need to go buy milk before I get shouted at more. Be back at 'night'.

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Also wow, this analysis shit is hard. Major props to people who do it.

 

Hmm. Hang on.

 

Alright. Preliminary analysis:

Town:

Moridin: Has made a number of analysis posts that I generally agree with. Seems solid.

Uncle Stojil: Has tried to stimulate discussion and put pressure on people. That's good. Maybe a little focused on Schro.

Sesc: Only a few posts but decent analysis and tried to move people away from the obvious, not particularly in formative lynch. Tentative town read.

fontisian: Good analysis overall and willing to make a detailed case against herself. Hard to read at the best of times however. Another tentative town.

Scum:

Fen: Most of his posts are non-game related fluff. Hasn't done much scum-hunting, which seems out of character from what I remember of previous games.

Bill Door: Another who seems uncharacteristically reticent to scum-hunt. Posts are somewhat reactionary as well. Would be an informative lynch.

Rents: Seems to post without any content other than votes. More scum-side of null than actual scum.

Riley: See above, with the addition of being defensive about posting like scum in his first post.

Null:

Everyone else. Had to rush this a little. Will post a more complete version tomorrow.

Finally, in the interests of extracting the most information possible from a lynch,
Vote: Bill Door