Get back to you guys tomorrow on that. Need time to look over my suspicions and stuff again, +sleep.

 

I know there's heaps of evidence against it. I know that a Rubicon/Schrodinger scum team is about as unlikely as it can get. I know that Schro derps like a motherfucker.

But damn do I want to lynch him right now.

 

Yeah, I deserve that. I've been pretty busy, and haven't really totally caught up.

So, I'll have to follow Eidolonic's play and vote Rubicon. It seems pretty early for scum to be pulling out fake reads, so I'll go for it right now.

Vote: Rubicon.

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And now for a double post. Like I said, I haven't gotten completely caught up. I though Eid was playing for a second there. So, since he isn't, there isn't any reason to doubt the statement.

Vote:Rubicon.

 

Yes. We know Rubicon is town.

What else do you have? Get completely caught up and get back to us with a list of potential teammates, please.

 

Yep, plus Typhon. I believe it's very likely a 4-players scumteam... And 5 is a tad more likely than 3, as well, though still unlikely.

Lol.

*sigh* You're probably confusing him even more.

Eido: vote tally, please.

 

This is a typo, right? I might believe that the public daycop could have been used by scum, but not in this case. I believe Stojil's claim that he gave Aekiel the public day cop power. I don't see why scum would public daycop Rubicon by showing Stojil and Aekiel working together.

Anyhow, I'm saying Stojil and Aekiel are both on the same team, and believe they are town. I'll get some more reads out later. I'm headed to bed soon.

 

It's more like this, from an uninformed perspective: it's unlikely that Aekiel is scum. If Aekiel is town, Stojil is town. If Aekiel is scum, Stojil could be scum.

Let's lynch Aekiel! (not)

 

Another double post. I guess you ninjad me Stojil. Yeah, maybe it is a typo? Otherwise it seems pretty suspicious too me.

 

Oops. <_<

I agree that there is likeliest a 4 player scum team, simply because in an 18 person game where every single townie is a power role, 3 player mafia seems a little underpowered, unless they have some incredibly gamebreaking powers which doesn't seem as likely. 5 might be stretching it a bit too much, though. I'd instead bet on a third party role of some kind, whose special ability is derping a derp derp every derp derps (I may have someone in mind ).

 

Please no more Rubicon votes till we get the tally guys. And sorry for this, have an ODE's midterm in 2 1/2 hours. I'll get back and post once that's done.

 

I think we're currently at six votes. Eight is hard lynch.

 

Yes, I'm lazy and didn't do this yesterday because it’s time consuming.

Schro: Answer my question.

Kalas

Typical useless first post.

Rubicon's joke vote is a possible seperation move, but he also could have done it because Kalas had just posted. The "Kalas is scum" line could be an inside joke.

Agrees with Rubicon and then abruptly turns on him. It's either an attempt to further separate them, or genuine annoyance. If they're scum mates, I don't see why Kalas would link them together so early on by voting with Rubicon.

This bit could have come about as an attempt to separate after scum!Rubicon and scum!Kalas realized that they were too closely affiliated.

Rubicon attacks Kalas purely for disappearing, which is an easily charge, and it's only one minor accusation in a post with a ton of other accusations. Suspicious.

Another attack at Kalas, but it's very weak, IMO. The last sentence makes me think Rubicon/Kalas/Smile is a likely team.

The thing about posts like these, is that they make Kalas (and Rubicon's supposed animosity towards Kalas) more prominent, without actually accusing him of anything and risking his standing with town.

For context:
Schrodinger (5) Rents, Aekiel, Moridin, Menace, Uncle Stojil
Wetnurse (3) Typhon, Riley Poole, Kalas
Aekiel (2) SmileOfTheKill, Fontisian
Uncle Stojil (1) Schrodinger
Menace (1) Rubicon
Kalas (1) Wetnurse
Rubicon (1) Fenraellis
SmileOfTheKill (1) Bill Door
Bill Door (1) Sesc

This vote comes just after Schro takes the lead vote wise, and goes to the best challenge at the time for Schro, making me suspicious of a Rubicon-Schro-Kalas team.

This whole exchange actually looks fairly genuine to me, which makes them less likely to be on the same team.

Kalas attacks Wetnurse and is actually kind of useful. Their interactions don't strike me as distancing.

Attacks Wetnurse again. Yeah, they’re probably not on the same team.

This also is very weak on Schro.

 

So your scumteam is? You're being very careful not to be open about this.

Misleading statement.

1) He bussed once (correct me if I'm wrong).
2) He bussed in a completely different situation (different from pretty much all perspectives).
3) He actually never bussed this game - not Schro, not anyone - yet (I don't know if you noticed the end of day 1, but it kinda featured Rubicon doing something different from bussing).

That said, I don't think it's impossible, just that there are much more likely buddies for Rubicon at the moment, and it's only the fact that Schro is the scummiest player in this game, in a vacuum, that really makes me itch for his lynch instead of a context-scummier player. That's a day away, though, so, anything could change.

Anyway, having confirmed scum among us has practically killed activity. We suck.

 

That would be because I haven't figured it out yet. I'm going to do tl:drs for every person on my list, and then I'm going to come to final conclusion. I don't just do tl:drs for you lot, you know.

Rubicon put Schro at 7 votes yesterday. In the last game, he constantly attacked Bill Door without any good reasons. And yes, the Rents thing was weird. I'm getting to it.

Then why don't you do something about it.

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5th, not 7th vote.

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Actually, Stojil had a vote on Schro at the time, so I think it was a 6th vote.

 

Midterms done, can focus a lot more on the game thank god.


I guess I can start at your post fonti.


Your entire argument seems based on one very flawed idea. You seem to think me, schro/smile, rubicon all got together and decided the BEST way to play this game was to make a ton of obvious links to each other in the first 50 posts and then proceed to ignore each other after.


Yes I made some dumb posts Day 1 but that’s the only way to get the ball rolling. Glancing over your first couple posts I’m sure you’d agree.


On the Schro/Bill Door vote: I was leaning on Schro because he had left no solid posts, zero things to work with which is inherently scummy. When he finally posts his.. readwall I guess you’d call it, I gave it a quick look over saw some definite opinions on scum/towniness and was satisfied on that account. After that I looked at their respective opinions of me Schro (scummy side of null) and Bill (town for reasons I don’t really agree with) and switch’d my vote accordingly.


The question for Menace.. eh not gunna lie that was meant for Moridin. Did help in getting a decent post out of him. And townfirming depending on Rubicon’s flip.

Seeing as Sesc is on this, its fairly obvious Rubicon was throwing out some bs, while doing some rolefishing.


What I find really interesting however is you mentioning Typhon. I haven’t talked any about him because he wasn’t a blip on my radar. Comparatively you mentioned him just enough to be able to go back and say ‘See, wasn’t ignoring him or anything.’ Today, in post 271, I put more pressure on him in my first mention then you have all game. What’s up with that?


And I hope I’m not the ‘best’ lynch target. We have a confirmed scum.

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@Wetnurse: I didn't ask for what you personally thought of him. From the viewpoint of 'Typhon is 100% scum' build a case to convince the rest of us.

@Typhon: I do mind actually. Being asked to wait a Day for an answer if setting off alarm bells.

 

Kalas, do you have a potential scumteam for Rubicon in mind? Who and why?

 

Lot of good thoughts on this page. Nice!

Could you townies hurry up and lynch me? I'm bored and want obs.

 

Wetnurse I've thought has been bad since Day 1. His misinterpretation of what I wanted, and Typhon's unwillingness to do the same doesn't look good. Still trying to pin down a potential fourth.

Caesar and bob need to get in here.

fonti not responding to me looks bad as well.

 

You rang? Firstly, apologies for my absence everyone. Car is on the fritz and I had a clinic appointment an hour and a half away today. My opinions on likely scum teams haven't changed much, though Stojil's theory on a four man scum team makes sense.

 

Schro

Weird that Schro is thinking about wincons.

Interesting that Rubicon attacks Schro second.

Rubicon puts a bit of pressure on Schro to vote, but then immediately switches his pressure to Smile.

Voting Rubicon for no reason. Could be distancing.

Again, Rubicon puts a tiny bit of pressure on Schro.

The stuff about alternate win conditions still makes no sense. What are the odds that Schro is a third party?

Bill Door had previously called Kalas and Rubicon town, and Schro scum. Personally, I would have asked what makes Schro scummy, so I find Rubicon’s question to be a little out there. Rubicon may either be trying to get Bill to post something nice about Kalas or to shift his attention away from Schro.

Doubt casting on Stojil on day 1 is just bad. And Schro fails to provide any reasoning for Rubicon being his “#1 suspect,” which makes me think distancing.

Rubicon provides some actual reasoning for going after Schro, but does not actually vote for him. Many other people have already mentioned the alt wincons weirdness. Rubicon also attacks a bunch of other people in the same post, so any pressure is weakened.