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Everything Else Manga Thread

Discussion in 'Books and Anime Discussion' started by LT2000, Jan 30, 2013.

  1. chaosfire999

    chaosfire999 Groundskeeper DLP Supporter

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    A few days back a new chapter of Claymore

    Claymore is at it's best with shorter fights and more exposition. I feel like Yagi is getting a bit bogged down in the action.
     
  2. Knyght

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    The monster fight that never ends...
     
  3. chaosfire999

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    So disappointing :/

    I want them to just wrap up on the island and go to the continent! Probably never going to happen but... but... they teased us with the Dragon's Descendants formerly held captive at the Organisation's HQ.
     
  4. Knyght

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    I'd say it's just that; a tease. I've never really expected we'd get involved with that big war and I'd be surprised if the story goes any further than wiping out the monsters and liberating the island from the Organisation.
     
  5. chaosfire999

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    Yea. I agree.

    Even then, it would have been nice if Yagi could have resolved this without resorting to the last second group of high level Awakened beings. Seems like such an asspull and it just bloated out the endgame with worthless additional characters.
     
  6. LT2000

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    Tokage no Ou.

    Oh hey, the Loooooong Prologue is finally over. And so is the series.

    This had potential, but should be Exhibit 1A on why light novels seldom translate well into manga. Too much content to be able to do well as a monthly manga series.
     
  7. mort

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    Right, I'm done with this webtoon. Stopped making sense a long while back and frankly the plot (what plot?) isn't really worth it anymore.
     
  8. Knyght

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    Why are we even having a flashback? I'm just reading each chapter trying to remember what was happening in the present, y'know, where the stuff I actually care about would is going.

    Feels like I'm reading a Frankenstein sidestory.
     
  9. meev

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    You're thinking about it from your own perspective rather than that of the publisher and consumer. There's a reason most manga LN adaptions follow this same format of monthly release and rarely adapt much of the full story ('rarely' as in I don't think I've ever seen it happen, but it could have).

    Light Novels are cheap, so people just knowing they exist and look like they fit their interests are usually enough to sell them. The manga is mostly going to be read in the magazine which is going to get bought anyway to read all the other manga in it. They're not reading it every month on the internet, they're seeing it in a magazine. It's designed to get people interested enough in the premise to go out and buy the LNs. It's the same reason basically every Light Novel under the sun is getting a short anime adaption now, even if generally they tend to not even sell enough to cover the cost of production. Because profit (from selling the adaption) was never the purpose of the adaption. Manga is just a cheaper, more drawn out version of that

    In this they have been proven to do their job perfectly. It's why they keep getting made.

    tl'dr It was never meant to 'translate well'. It's an advertisement.
     
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  10. chaosfire999

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    I like Shokugeki no Soma 35 to be honest. The break from Tootsuki is refreshing.
     
  11. LT2000

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    Agreed. This miniarc is just what the plot needs right now. And I am quite happy to have Nikumi in something of a prominent role. I know she isn't going to be the eventual love interest (I'd love it if she were...) but it's good to see her not completely falling by the wayside.
     
  12. mort

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    Might as well have called it Koon style Kaioken...
    The ruthless exploitation of Lizard's psyche was nice though, very Koon of him...
     
  13. LT2000

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    I just hope it's over now. If Anak gets up again and this continues into a third chapter, that's way too much stalling the advancement of the plot over a fight between a couple of side characters. But I do think it is over. Koon's commentary at the end had a distinct air of finality about it. Anak was extremely disappointing though. I expected her to put up a much better showing than this.
     
  14. meev

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    Ironically the mot interesting part of this chapter was the afterword where SIU revealed that using external baangs and reinforcement at the same time is super hard so doing so weakens the reinforcement greatly.

    The problem with Ran vs Anak is that I just really don't care about either character much. I would have happily had most of this fight offscreen if it meant we could have seen Beta confronting Viole sooner.
     
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    I kinda like Ran; Anak is meh though.

    I too felt the beatdown Anak was receiving was taking it too far considering her status, until I read SIU's afterword. I wonder if Baam (being a prodigy at everything Shinsoo) also has this limitation, and if his physical skills aren't that good because he focuses heavily on external Shinsoo and Rooms and therefore misses out on the body reinforcement.
     
  16. LT2000

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    I would say that the fact that he just kicked some poor schmuck out of the arena and into the upper deck indicates that his physical reinforcement is just fine.
     
  17. Mors

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    Sure he's impressive... compared to normal regulars.

    But remember what happened to him from Wangnan's normal bombs? I bet others in the top ten E-Ranks would have just shrugged it off.
     
  18. Verse of Darkness

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    Also depends if we know whether or not he was going all out.

    Highly doubt it.
     
  19. meev

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    Except he took a punch to the throat from a Ranker who has Body and Reinforcement as his highest stats and got back up. What it indicates is that he wasn't using reinforcement when he was hit, not that his reinforcement is shit.

    Wangnan's bomb was one of his 'shitty' ones. It wouldn't have done that to a 20th floor regular if they were using reinforcement, let alone someone who can kick a thirtieth floor regular 100 meters+.
     
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  20. Mors

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    Was that referring his fight with Love? I wasn't considering that... but if he's good enough at reinforcement that means he was just being really, really careless with Wangnan. Or was taken by surprise. I don't think Baam would be careless, not when the lives of his friends are always on the line.

    What about the inverse - he's not exceptional at hand-to-hand/reinforcement but his inner weapon makes up for it, even used passively. That makes him able to get up - or to survive - even after massive injuries. And that includes not only being punched by a so-so Ranker, but also being pasted by the strongest active Ranker in the tower using his "Legendary Technique".

    Though I was thinking of Ship Lesoo's comments when I said Baam is weak at physical stuff. But his Shinsoo was neutralized during that fight... does that include only external Wave Controller stuff, or did that interfere with reinforcement etc too?

    Thinking again, I wouldn't be surprised if he's actually really good at reinforcement too (being a prodigy among prodigies), but can't/doesn't use it too much in a fight since he's specialized in using Rooms and the two don't go well together. One of FUG's goals in the whole living weapon thing might be to make up for that weak point.
     
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