Come again?

 

I think I get it.

Normal chakra is physical and spiritual energy mixed, sage chakra is a three way split of physical, spiritual and natural energy. Since drawing in too much natural energy apparently turns you to stone, the amount Naruto can have is still limited by his own chakra.

What Chaosfire is suggesting is that if Kyuubi becomes whole again, he'll have both physical and spiritual energy and so instead of being limited by his own chakra, Naruto will be able to have Kyuubi provide the phsyical and spiritual energy, then draw in enough nature energy to balance with that.

 

Apologies, it was a rather spur of the moment thought. If Kurama's Yin and Yang halves refer to predominance of that type of energy then if unified Kurama would have a huge amount of chakra at its disposal. What's stopping Naruto from using this when collecting Nature Energy to form part of Sage Chakra (or whatever the name for it is)? I always assumed that he could only make so much sage chakra at a time due to a lack of his own chakra to balance it with (time constrains non-withstanding).

 

I'm disappointed at there being another Kyubbi. The only reason I believed Minato should have been able to access the chakra without any of the trials or tribulations was if there was no one entity fight over it. Now it just seems he is able to access it just cause :/

 

Um, no. Obviously, with nothing else to do, Minato and Yin-Kyuubi had a decade and a half to sit and talk out their differences.

 

I think sacrificing his life, being unable to pass on to the next world and spending the 16 years or so trapped in eternal darkness with the Kyuubi would count as a trial.

 

I dunno, guys. Minato looked pretty shocked when Yin!Kurama spoke up. It's possible that this is their first time speaking, and Yin!Kurama has been lending him chakra for reasons that'll be revealed next chapter.

 

So much for Hiruzen. Guess that means no new types of jutsu, either. Bummer.

Sage Chakra effects are neat, but now that Obito knows he'll just swallow Tobirama's Hiraishin mark and..

Curse you, Naruto, for not using a Rasenshuriken and saving us ~10 chapters of flashbacks.

 

Huh. I didn't notice.

Only way I can see this working then is if Minato did something to his own seal to yank away some of the chakra and keep it to himself. Which he did inside the Shinigami?

 

If I remember correctly, it was said in manga that Minato would spend eternity inside of shinigami fighting Kyuubi. So I guess Yin-Kyuubi didn't give him chakra, but Minato took it forcefully like Naruto during his training with Killer B.

 

You think any events transpired within the Shinigami? We haven't seen a single thought, feeling or memory that would have implied they experienced something post death. Even though the technique was described as something else, it appears that the Death God jutsu just seals the soul and thus denies it entry into the "pure world".

Menaces point also stands. He was shocked that the Kyubbi spoke up, implying that they haven't interacted at all. It stands to reason this Minato is the one that died 16 years ago in every way, except that he now has an hour or more memories depending on how long it has been since he was summoned. Thus my previous point about Minato's abilities and how he hasn't suffered or went through any trials or tribulations like Naruto.

 

We don't know that.

And about Minato being shocked... well, he and Yin-Kyuubi probably not on speaking terms. They are enemies and all...

 

After the final fight,the world is saved And Naruto becomes Hokage, 12 year old Naruto wakes up from a very vivid dream, and remembers that he failed the Genin exam for the third time yesterday.

 

Except that the Sandaime sealed both Hashirama and Tobirama, thus if the description was apt and time continued in a consistent manner, he has spent the last four years fighting them non stop. And yet neither of the participants have made mention of being free from it?

 

Nah... they are probably already in Infinite Tsukyomi and just dreaming...

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Well, we know that time is moving for someone who is sealed. For example, when bijuu are sealed they understand it. Or when someone is sealed with Totsuka Sword he will see infinite genjutsu.

 

Awesome chapter. It's chapters like this that remind me why I'm still reading Naruto at all.

On the matter of Yin!Kyuubi...
Do we know concretely whether or not Time moves inside the Shinigami's Belly?
I mean, for all we know it might be different from all the other seals we've seen.

I'm not sure, but I think this might be one of those grey areas that Kishi uses to retcon stuff.

Suspending Disbelief in 3.2.1...

 

It was pretty good.

Although does that technically mean YangKyuubi is pretty much an easter bunny compared to Yin?

Bit annoyed that Naruto was again made to look stupid though, again.

 

The mangastream version pretty much completely changed what Yin Kyuubi said. Interesting.

 

And it made much more sense, in my opinion.

 

So, Not only is Minato completely unoriginal, but he's also an idiot ( at least, compared to Tobirama )....just like Naruto. I just keep hating Kishimoto more and more.

Edit: But enough with the negativity. I'm glad to see sage mode getting some more screen time. If it's good enough for Hashirama, it's good enough for Naruto. I've always preferred SM to KCM, it would be awesome if Kishimoto would have Naruto fuse both modes somehow. The sheer chakra capacity and chakra control of KCM, combined with the sensory abilities of SM (greatly increased of course), plus all the other crazy properties that Natural Energy introduces to Sage Chakra. That's my hope for Naruto's progression (partially).