Well, I'll admit to probably not knowing a much about Space/Time as some of you, but I've always envisioned the Hiraishin as something like 2 doors, both facing each other, but each swing out. You open one one door, and then the other, and step out somewhere miles away. Basically, it's a damn portal.

This could also account for a difference, like an inferior seal having a larger space between the 'doors.'

EDIT: I kind of think PotterFan is on to something with the Kuchiyose, w/ the binding thing. I have a theory going with that idea, but I'm trying to put it together in my head first.

 

The Dust Release doesn't nullify ninjutsu does it? It's not the quality of how much Obito's jutsu destroys, but the way in which it operates generally, but cancelling the effects of other jutsu.

And yeah, according to the Mangastream version, Yin!Kyuubi was , until just then, with Naruto's speech, a passive source of energy with no sentient entity to struggle with, allowing Minato to use the chakra cloak no problem. It said that Naruto's speech was "enough to move even this half of me" (emphasis mine), suggesting that "this half of me" was indeed dormant prior to that instant.

What confused me was why the Edo Tenseis weren't destroyed altogether, if Obito's jutsu cancels the effects of other jutsu.

 

Guess his ability just nullified their ability to regenerate. Killing them off completely like that might be a bit much at this stage of the fight.

 

I still can't understand why sealing of the Juubi gave Obito ability to use Onmyōton on such level. Why the hell his control and understanding of chakra suddenly became so good?

 

So we really gonna act like Naruto didn't lowkey troll everyone this chapter

Sasuke can you keep up :awesome

 

Good that Naruto insulted Sasuke.

Bad that we just know that Sasuke will pull Sage Mode out of his asshole now seeing as how it's the only way to harm Obito.

 

Obviously Sasuke is the Snake Sage. :\

 

I've been waiting for that to happen for a while now anyway, what with curse seal level 2 being a bastardized Sage Mode and Juugo giving Sasuke a flesh implant.

 

I doubt Sarutobi got destroyed. Tobirama was also struck by Juubito at that point, and he regenerated. It is only after Obito overcame Juubi and became self-aware that he gained the ability to permanently destroy Edo Tenseis and nullify techniques. Sarutobis body was destroyed before Obito gained this new ability, and as such he should regenerate given a bit more time.

Ofcourse if he gets destroyed that way again, he is finished, and he does have a significant vulnerability in lacking the ability to teleport around like Minato and Tobirama. Not sure what would stop Obito from just finishing him off when he reappears. Obito is obviously faster than Sarutobi at this point, and Sarutobi has nothing that could possibly block Obitos attack. Maybe thats why he is absent, he has already regenerated but wants to make sure that when he attacks, it matters, since it will likely be his last move.

Given that he had no idea what Sage Mode was during the Kabuto fight, which JUST happened in-world, he damn better not!

Heck, especially since its not even necessary for this kind of idiocy to happen for Sasuke to remain effective. If the presence of senjutsu chakra prevents Obito from canceling out a technique, then all Sasuke needs to do is the exact same thing he has done twice now. Combine his Amaterasu with Narutos FRS, with the difference that this time, it will be FRS Naruto creates in SM. The fact that Sasukes Amaterasu is not made in SM should be made irrelevant by the fact that FRS would be. The whole point of making combination techniques like that is taking the best part of boths afterall, so it should be enough that just one side of the combination is made with senjutsu.

 

I'm just waiting for the Radori/Chasengan. You know it's coming. You fucking know it.

 

Given we still haven't really seen the extent of the EMS yet, I think it's a good possibility that Sasuke will copy the ability to do Sage Mode.

I think what will happen is that we will see a combination FSR with the arrow from Sasuke's Susanoo and the attack made reality with those two jutsu Danzo and Itachi used, the name of which I can't remember at the moment.

This after the Shinobi alliance bails the fuck out after Madara and Hashirama unleash their big jutsu and start fucking shit up and Tobirama, Minato and Sarutobi get wiped out by Obito.

I think it will come down to Madara being talked down by Hashirama after seeing Naruto friendship no jutsu Obito after putting him to his knees, Madara restores the Juubi into it's individual parts.

 

Ah, but I find it awesome. It just shows that dude without being some kind of genius shinobi and without kekkei genkai or super lineage could be pretty strong.

And I wonder if Juubito will evolve one more time, cuz Juubi wasn't in it's final form when Obito sealed it.

 

What did Minato do to warrant being called an idiot (more-or-less) by Tobirama? Looked like it came out of nowhere.

Um, no. Minato was pretty much the poster boy for genius shinobi.

 

Yeah, I'm still holding out for Juubi to hit its stride and take back control. Would be so much better than this.

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I think it was that he didn't notice his arm wasn't regenerating. It's understandable considering the circumstances, but Tobirama is clearly a hardass when it comes to these things.

 

How will he do that, when even the rinnegan (which we know from Madara is an upgrade from EMS) cannot see Natural Energy? Not to mention Sasuke was watching with his EMS and had no idea what Naruto did.

There is just no way Sasuke should be able to get true SM without going and actually training and learning. If he wants SM, he needs time to go to that snake, and actually study, learn and then practise, just as Naruto did under Fukasaku. He might be able to go through the training quicker thanks to his experience with the fake-SM of the cursed seals, but he still needs to go through it. Anything else is a pathetic asspull.

The cursed seal thing is a possibility, but thats not true SM, so techniques made with it are not true senjutsu. Though I guess it does use NE and its probably NE that allows things to touch Obito, so it would possibly work in this scenario (find a way around Obitos ability to cancel ninjutsu). CS2 is however inferior to SM, because it comes from Juugo who uses unstable unbalanced NE absorbing.

 

Are, uh, we still talking about Uchiha Sasuke here?

 

The only thing I can think of is some kind of subjugation of the Juubi's mind since the Juubi will have experiences the Sage's techniques first hand. Nothing else makes sense...

Possibly. I was working on the assumption that the Black Spheres of Death were the same then as now.

 

I agree that Sasuke randomly picking up a true sage mode would be too much.

I also wonder how Naruto plans to separate the bijuu again. I hope it won't be any nonsense like Cell with the androids. Seems like it would require a Rinnegan user again. At the very least Izanagi.

The Onmyōton thing reminds me of the path ability of absorbing ninjutsu. In any case that ability should protect Obito from any large sage abilities. Then again he could just phase through them.

 

He was given pieces of the bijuu (and somehow mysteriously got Shukaku, apparently) earlier. Its possible that those pieces serve as sort of backup copies of the actual minds/souls of the bijuu, and all Naruto would need to do is enter Juubis mind via the bijuu telepathy thing, and then repeatedly do the chakra tug on Juubi to pull out pieces of its chakra, hand over those pieces to the bijuu inside him, and then let said bijuu out from his body.

Obito does not seem to be using Kamui. And he would basically be undefeatable if he was. I speculate that maybe his anti-ninjutsu ability is also ironically canceling out his own ninjutsu abilities (including Kamui). He has only used Juubis unique abilities since activating it. That would be a reasonable way for removing Kamui from Obitos abilities for the moment, and atleast give the good guys a small chance.

 

Does Sasuke even have the Cursed Seal anymore? I was under the impression that he lost it at some point.