Doesn't seem like the guy who had to ask what chakra was.

 

But did Naruto really give up though? I mean I guess thats one way of looking at it. But on the other hand, his chakra had just been drained and he was in base. What would have happened if he attacked at that point? He would have been instantly killed as easily as any random fodder.

So did Naruto give up? Or was he just waiting for Kurama to create more chakra so he could re-enter BSM where he could make a difference (which is what happened at the end).

On another forum it was also pointed out to me that Narutos expression seems to indicate sheer rage rather than surrender, with the way he is grinding his teeth and so on. Are his tears ones of giving up, or ones of rage while he is recharging his chakra? You decide.

But thats just the thing. Ninjutsu does NOT make it stronger. We saw Tobirama use ninjutsu and hurt the tree. We saw Sarutobi save Naruto by wrecking the branches of the tree. And just now we saw Sasuke use his susanoo to hurt the tree. There is nothing to suggest that the tree itself is absorbing or cancelling chakra, and several examples to suggest it cannot.

Unlike Obito, the tree is obviously NOT immune to normal ninjutsu, and infact CAN be hurt by it. Thats why the attitude of the fodders is so stupid to me. I mean why are they giving up now?

When they were fighting Obito, this attitude would have made sense. I could have seen the alliance thinking: "I don't know senjutsu and nothing else works, I am useless, might as well give up since I can do nothing".

But right now, they CAN make a difference. If every single fodder starting bombarding the tree with the best long-range ninjutsu, they could potentially hurt the tree enough to make a difference. At worst, they would give Naruto and Sasuke openings and more time to destroy the flower. At best, they could damage the tree enough that it won't bloom at all.

Yeah, I guess I can see that. Though its not an accurate view. I mean its called "impure world resurrection", and the whole point of it is that it summons the soul back from the pure world (afterlife) to the impure world (real world). So yes, right now, Hashirama does belong to the impure world. And while its true that they cannot run out of chakra, Minato has clearly demonstrated that the edos are just as vulnerable to being destroyed as the fodders are.

Well, Sasuke was ignored by the tree too, so maybe not. And ultimately Hashirama and Madara were both absurd chakra monsters. I could easily see them having survived and still being able to fight, even if they had been alive.

Yeah, Sasuke will become a great hokage the way he could not care less that his comrades just died horribly.

To be fair, Naruto did not ask what chakra was because he did not know what it was. He asked it because the reader did not know what it was. I view that whole scene less as Naruto being stupid, and more as Kishi being stupid for using such idiotic way of telling the reader whats what.

 

He trained a lot but studied little.

 

And there's also the point that Kishi wanted people to have the goofball vibe from Naruto. Thats why he keeps slipping in the lol!fail moments from Naruto in very serious fights. Even now, in this very fight, there were 2-3 such moments.

It actually sorta supports his explanation that Naruto learns more by doing than by practicing. He's not a technical genius in the classical sense. This distinction was also made between Orochimaru and Jiraiya if you remember. As well between Hashirama and Tobirama. Its completely intentional on Kishi's part as well. And so is the skill set that comes with it. Naruto: Shadow clone + Rasengan and its Various forms ==> Sage arts, Kyuubi mode. Sasuke: Shit ton of different Fire Jutsu, Lighning Jutsu + Sharingan abilities (==> This allows him to cast other Jutsu as well like water and earth clones) + Cursed seal mode ==> Now the EMS abilities.

The same is with Orochimaru ( Classical Jutsu Genius) <=> Jiraiya ( Hard working goofball "genius")pair, Tobirama (Super classical Jutsu Genius) <= > Hashirama ( Super powerfull goofball genius)

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3nFM4wDeXco

 

I have a question. Can Shino use normal ninjutsu like Bunshin no Jutsu and Henge no Jutsu?

 

I don't see why he wouldn't be able to.

 

New chapter up. Half of it is flashback that I found mostly boring. Most interesting thing I thought it had was a shot of young Muu, and even that was more of a "hey, I know who that is" moment.
Also convenient natural chakra battery/Susanoo compatability with said battery.

 

Yeah. Still better than Sasuke pulling SM out of his ass though. Having Juugo provide NE did make sense. And its easier to accept Sasukes Susanoo (which is a chakra construct) wielding that NE, than it would be for Sasuke to somehow use it personally without turning to stone.

Other than that, it was indeed pretty boring.

 

It was nice to see the past kages if nothing else. I think the only one left without an appearance is the Third Mizukage.

 

I dont remember the second Kazekage either.

 

Isn't he tattoo guy?

Edit: The statue of the Second Kazekage is bald too. Then again, maybe I'm making assumptions. That guy behind the First Mizukage doesn't look like the Second.

 

Probably. But anyway, this was awesome chapter even with SM Susanoo!

 

Yeah, I like any chapter that fills in some blanks in the lore. Just knowing how some of the first Kages looked is certainly better than what we had before.

As for Sasuke's Susanoo, I'd call it Curse Mark Susanoo rather than Sage Mode Susanoo. It's certainly a pretty strong power-up, but nowhere near as good as true Sage Mode, and Sasuke needs Juugo to be on hand for it to be of any use. Not the most reliable ability, really.

 

Yep. This is why I don't care much about this power up. He can't use it without Juugo.

Btw, i finally understood Madara's words about using Hashirama's Senjutsu. Uchiha is trying to pierce Hashirama with chakra rod and to control him the same way Nagato was controlling his corpses.

 

Oh Yeah. The First Kage of Kumo was a Black man with an Afro...

Oh Kishi...

XD

Also, what happened to Edo Tensei Muu( was that the name of the bandaged guy?) though?

 

Itachi made Kabuto release the Edo Tensei. Everyone but Madara was sent back to the afterlife.

 

Orochimaru's grandfather or something xD

 

Cursed Seal Susannoo actually wasn't that bad tbh. Even somewhat canon, albeit in an asspullish fashion.

 

Pretty neat chapter. I liked the flashback to the 1st Gokage Summit. Seeing the Orochimaru lookalike makes me want an Orochimaru family flashback.

I did feel a bit dubious about the comment saying Sasuke would surpass Madara. I will admit Sasuke is a prodigy however Madara seems to have uncovered the Sharingan forms and techniques through hard work. Where Sasuke has basically had all of this explained to him. The sage susanoo is a team effort with Jugo. What has Sasuke really done on his own?

I'm also wondering when Sasuke will realize that all he has to do is take some of the Shinju/Jubi into himself to gain the Rinnegan.
And is it just me or does Minato seem to have given up along with the rest of the fodder shinobi?
All in all I think this was a 4 out of 5 star chapter.