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A Super Highschool Level Mafia ~Mafia Win~

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Lexicat, Oct 18, 2013.

  1. blab

    blab Second Year

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    Alright, just because this is going to bug me if I don't say it, then I'll leave it alone:

    Endgame:
    There is only Good, Town Cop, Evil, Mafia Redirector and Sesc, Town Something left.

    Good: I got a cop result: Evil is town.
    Evil: Yes, I am the Town Bulletproof.
    Sesc:"Alright, Evil is either the Town Bulletproof or the Mafia Bulletproof. Since the Cop (who is definitely the Cop) said Evil is Town, Evil can't be the mafia bulletproof. Therefore Evil is the Town Bulletproof. I am Town. Therefore Good must be Mafia." Vote: Good.
    Evil: Vote: Good.
     
  2. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Okay? You've made a scenario that proves scum could lie about their role in incredibly specific circumstances.

    ---------- Post automerged at 10:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:43 AM ----------

    Some questions for you though blab:

    a) What did you hope to prove with this?

    b) Why have you spent so much game time thinking of scum fakeclaim scenarios as opposed to, I don't know, scumhunting?
     
  3. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    ... o_O

    I was pretty sure you're Town, but that is one big ass strawman, blab. We are neither at endgame, nor were you checked by a cop. You asked me why I thought you'd be stupid to fake claim your role. I responded. What's got a random, entirely different scenario to do with that?
     
  4. blab

    blab Second Year

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    I should have left it alone ):

    @Kalas

    a) What did you hope to prove with this?
    -I hoped to prove that the generalization that I quoted is not always true. Because I don't want us to loose the game of that reasoning. So it's not taken as gospel by town later when I can't assist with my sage advice. A counterexample is the easiest way to show that a statement is false

    b) I haven't ??? And I want to (and am) scumhunting. You're accusation is untrue, and annoying coming from you.

    Do yo have something to say about a player not being Proph?

    @Sesc

    I get the specific response. Rest, refer to a)

    ---------- Post automerged at 09:18 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:17 AM ----------

    *because of that
     
  5. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    a) Do you really think a stacked deck scenario that, if I'm being completely honest, will NEVER play out like you described counts as a 'counterexample'?

    b) You have been, as recently as 137. What this was referring to was 141. THAT was empty mechanics discussion plain and simple and something worth being called out on.

    I do in fact. But I really want an answer from Proph first as he hasn't said a word since I started playing. Despite being in thread.
     
  6. blab

    blab Second Year

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    Alright, if I'm doing my timezone conversion correctly, we have a little less than 2 days left. If I extrapolate some people's post-counts, then we might get only 1-2 posts out of them. (I'd actually like more).
    Therefore I am just going to remind people that I said this:
    and I still think it's not that bad of an idea.

    @Bill Door:
    Give me a scumread not being Caesar.

    @Lochness:
    Give me a scumread not being LuckyLee.

    @Wetnurse:
    Give me a scumread not being me.

    @Rents:
    Give me a scumread not being actually just give me a scumread.

    @LuckyLee:
    Answer 110 or show me if you already did.



    Yes, I think it counts, yes it is a stacked scenario. I am sure I could come up with a realistic scenario if I wanted to, you know, spend much time thinking about scum-fake-claiming scenarios. Fair enough to call me out on talking mechanics, but the generalization just bugged me. Though, since you want me scum-hunting, why do you keep asking me questions about it?

    Well he did say this:
    Which I am bringing up because "all these people" refers to Caesar, Aekiel and who? Can't find anyone else, help appreciated/Serious
     
  7. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Because calling someone out on empty mechanics talk IS scumhunting? I really dont understand how you can approve and question me for doing this in the same paragraph.

    I did miss that Proph post :/ Not intentionally avoiding the thread then. I'll look over proph reads when not on phone.

    ---------- Post automerged at 05:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:44 PM ----------

    Gave it a read through and they were the only ones I saw. So brainfart or misrepresenting I don't know.
     
  8. Aerylife

    Aerylife Not Equal

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    I already answered 110, but I'll gladly restate it. I found Aek saying Proph being a strong town read to be weird since all he had done at that point was accuse Blab, and then Kalas without stating why until later.
     
  9. Caesar

    Caesar First Year

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    Just a quick post before I head to bed.

    @font: would you mind making a case against Lucky?

    @Proph: waiting for that read wall.

    @anyone who has less posts then Lexi: please start playing.

    @blab:
    Fishy gave him as a close third behind you and font.
     
  10. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    Yes, actually, but I'll get on it tonight or tomorrow anyway.
     
  11. CrashLTD

    CrashLTD Fifth Year

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    @blab: Aekiel, Luckylee and Kalas or Sesc.

    Aekiel looks scummy since he's been in the middle of a lot of conversations. It could be the effect of being inconsistent after having to answer to a lot of those conversations.

    Luckylee is almost in the same boat as Aekiel. The difference is that he's not smack in the middle. He's making posts here and there that don't really generate/contribute to conversation.

    Kalas and Sesc. Just gut feel. I think one of them is scum.

    @Everyone
    How many scum do you think there are?

    To answer my own question, I think there are atleast 3 scum. There's a possibility that there could be 4 since this is a 13 player game. Then again it could be 9-town 3-main scum 1-neutral.
     
  12. Lexicat

    Lexicat Second Year

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    Super Highschool Level Votecount: The Second

    Aekiel(3)- Caesar, Font, Fishy
    LuckyLee(2)-LochNess, Aekiel,
    Kalas(2)- Rents, Prophylaxis
    Blab(1)- Wetnurse
    Caesar(1)- Bill Door
    Wetnurse(1)- Blab
    Prophyl(1)- Kalas
    Rents(1)- Sesc

    Not Voting: LuckyLee

    With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

    Day 1 ends 12:00 PM EST October 25th.

    Mod Note: I am still searching for a replacement for Rents. Players may vote for a 24 hour extension before the deadline in light of this. A majority of 7 votes for extension will extend the deadline to 12:00 PM EST on October 26th, this Saturday.
     
    Last edited: Oct 24, 2013
  13. Prophylaxis

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    Apologies for the absence, will post this afternoon.

    Vote Deadline Extension
     
  14. blab

    blab Second Year

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    @Caesar: thanks, didn't see that.

    I agree with you, though there are probably not 4 scum unless every ability is like mine and a lot more powerful if scum had it.
    And really, after 150 posts, this is the question you ask?

    I am undecided about this. On the one hand I think we will benefit from some extra posts especially by those who haven't posted much, on the other the game dragging on longer cause more apathy about the game. And a full week should reallybe enough.
     
  15. fontisian

    fontisian Slug Club Member

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    An extra day can't hurt. The case against Luckylee is still coming.

    Wetnurse's random mechanics question this late in the Day looks pretty bad.
     
  16. blab

    blab Second Year

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    Ok,
    Vote Deadline Extension
    @fontisian yep
     
  17. Aekiel

    Aekiel Angle of Mispeling ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Vote Deadline Extension

    I'm good with that. Will post more in a bit, winding down from work first.
     
  18. Koalas

    Koalas First Year ~ Prestige ~ DLP Supporter

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    Vote Deadline Extension

    More time never hurts.
     
  19. Aerylife

    Aerylife Not Equal

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    Vote Deadline Extension

    I've had school/work so my posting has been erratic, I'll def post later though.
     
  20. blab

    blab Second Year

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    Alright, then let's pretend the next 24 hours are the last, and actually use he extra time as extra time. I put out my reads when I'm home
     
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