I'd have agreed that HP/anime is typically autofail, but Nuhuh shat on that with Retsu's Forry. Anything can be fused, it just takes some flexibility and imagination on the writer's part.

 

But it was technology. That's the point.

Each of those points have been used in some form or another in other franchises, in other series. It's a common theme, on ground and in space.

Again, why use the Stargate (a technological device using wormholes) if you're just going to gut everything that makes it a Stargate? Just create your own, if you're going with 'lolmagic'.

Possession? Again, common theme. Depending on what you personally deem "canon", the Goa'uld are either snake-like parasites (SG-1) or Ra was a unique being that managed to possess a young Egyptian boy (the original, theatrical movie).

Changing that about them is like changing humans to be evolved from, I don't know, snakes? Or birds? Point is, they're not humans anymore.

Ancient mythology being used as back-story? Again, a common theme. Way too many examples to even think of listing.

The themes of Stargate are common ones, and used almost everywhere. In the end, all you'd end up having is a bastardized copy, and a weak one at that.

By going the magic route and no space warfare route, you'd also be lopping away much of Stargate's core themes and mythos, such as humanity's ascension as the Alteran's spiritual, cultural, and technological successors.

Again, you might as well make your own fictional universe and cross it with Harry Potter, because then you'd have more artistic license.

The more you change to lolmagic, the less Stargate it actually becomes, until it's nothing but it in name, if even that. It becomes more "inspired by" or "derived from" than an actual crossover with.

For all we know, that was a biological ability of theirs, and the 'rite' was merely ceremonial/cultural.

 

That wasn't a fusion though; it was just an old-fashioned dimension-switch (or whatever) fic. A fusion fic requires, well, fusion. At the very least 'let's go to America, ohai its Buffy, and there were all demons and shit living in the same world as us all along, who knew/we already knew!' - but really more like The Last Avatar.

 

Though if you wanted to make a crossover with Naruto I guess you could move the Naruto characters to the HP universe, power down the city leveling jutsu and Superhero-like physical prowess, use nation wide guilds instead of ninja villages with different clans stationed in different cities or areas, get rid of the power levels by replacing them with skill levels, put the ninjas in something akin to the statute of secrecy, find a client base like normal wizards or wizards from other countries and then get Auror Harry and Ron have a mission through all of Asia and running into them. If you are concerned by the fact that ninjas are Japanese you could always call them assassins or focus the story on just that country. Add Asian magical creatures, adapt the bad guys objectives to the plot and there you have it.

 

For one thing, I don't think we can take the possibility or impossibility of fusing Harry Potter and Naruto as an indication of the possibility of fusing Harry Potter with any other manga, like Bleach, for instance. Bleach and Naruto, for all that they are both manga, have differences and occur within their own respective, self -contained exegetic contexts, no more alike as manga than, say, Harry Potter and Lord of the Rings are alike as novels.

The first step to fusing Harry Potter with any manga is dispensing with the idea that manga and anime are monoliths, as indeed, even the difference between any one manga and its anime can be as significant as the difference between Harry Potter and the movies based on it.

So the real issue at stake here is evaluating the anime or manga as its own work, separate from any generalizations about its form or genre, just as you would try to evaluate Harry Potter as its own work before attempting to reinterpret or reformat it. That is essential to any decent fusion.

Having said that, I think it would be far easier to fuse HP and Bleach than it would be to fuse HP and Naruto, simply because of the difference in temporospatial settings between them. Naruto would be far more likely to be fused with something like LotR, which occurs in a similarly archaic, fantastic space that is similar to but entirely separate from real Earth settings, unlike say, Bleach or Harry Potter, which both deal with subcultures that exists contemporaneously with (behind or beyond) the real world.

 

In my opinion, SG and HP could easily be fused. We know that the heads of state are informed of magic, surely the president would not allow exploration of space (he knows there are hostile alien races) without sending along some wizards to evaluate magical threats?

You don't even need to take the technology out of Stargate for HP to fit. Maybe just a few races (Nox, Ori?) use magic extensively and the rest either assumes its technology or or keeps it secret? The Ascension is basically magic, as well. Maybe magic was what allowed humans to originally rebell against the Goa'uld? I might be mistaken, but didn't HP wands originate in ancient egypt?

This applies to the Atlantis mission in particular. The team consists of experts from all over the world; it wouldn't be surprising for Harry join the expedition assuming the war against Voldemort hadn't worked out like it did in canon. Harry joining the Atlantis expedition to get away from the memories of his lost friends after killing Voldemort wouldn't really surprise me, you wouldn't even need to change the timelines.

The only thing that makes it fall apart somewhat is that it would make the Atlantis team to powerfull. Going by Taure's magic system Harry could solve just about any conflict on his own without breaking a sweat. Maybe it would be possible have Wraith as a race designed by magic users? That whole life force stealing thing they have going could be dark magic after all.
The presence of a wizard could draw their attention or something, I don't know.

 

We can only wait for the constipation to end. :mrgreen:

Of course, while Retsu's Folly is great, I'm ever so slightly more eager for an update to The Stalking Blood Sack.

I'm surprised we haven't seen any HP/Venture Bros. crossovers. In the VB universe magic is fairly well known, in certain circles. There are plenty of secret organizations, secret groups within said organizations, secret governments...

A secret world full of wizards wouldn't be too hard to fit in there.

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Although you may hit a metaphysical snag, regarding whether Hank and Dean's clones have any souls at all, let alone the souls of the original brothers.

 

Venture Bros?

What I want to see is HP/Super Mario Bros. crossover!

Don't tell me it can't be done, because it can, although it would have to involve dimension travel, so it's not exactly a fusion.

It would have to have the Weasley Twins as the protagonists (brothers and all), replacing Mario and Luigi. The two are competent enough to be interesting, have a good sense of humor and of course have perfect teamwork.

I'm thinking that the best timing for their dimension travel would be during Harry's fifth year, as they are old enough to be considered adults.

Yeah, I have strange ideas sometimes.

 

I had a couple of ideas for Venture Bros. crossovers although I don't what to do with them.

The first one is Harry finding what appears to be an ordinary folding pocket knife in the Department of Mysteries. There is a sign next to it saying "The Knife of Brock-Only the Chosen One may open it." After he opens it, the pocket knife turns into a large Bowie knife and Harry turns into Brock Samson. He can turn back into Harry, so it works like a secret identity.

Death Eater life expectancies plummet, and Voldie's Horcruxes get a real workout as his body is repeatedly destroyed in various brutal ways. Brock/Harry is sure to thank the Dursleys for their kind treatment of him.

The second one is replacing Petunia with Dr. Girlfriend also known as Violet Michele Evans. She preferred the name Sheila.

Although Sheila originally looked much like Petunia, she was a witch. During her fourth year and Lily's first, she tried a dangerous ritual to make herself beautiful. It worked but she was turned into a squib and her voice was altered.

Unlike Petunia, she is not bitter about this, and she and Lily remain on good terms. She willingly took custody of Harry, but his childhood was far from the normal one that Dumbledore had planned. The address on his Hogwarts letter "the Monarch's Mighty Flying Cocoon" worried Albus

 

I've often thought that HP and Animorphs would go quite well together. Multiple masquerades are always fun, and as a bonus the timelines sync up rather well - the Animorphs books begin in Spring of 1997, conveniently around the time Voldemort is ascendant. Hmm, maybe 17-year-old Harry and friends would be a little overpowered for early Animorphs style guerilla war against the Yeerks, though - perhaps kick Animorphs back to 1993 so everybody's 13? Tossing out the incredible timeline coincidence would be unfortunate, but it's not as though the respective canon timelines matter too much. You could have Visser Three itching to get into Voldemort's head, and Voldemort being confronted with a choice between saving the world in order to conquer it or just tossing in with the Yeerks...man, the possibilities for a fun fic are rather endless here. A few of these fics already exist, of course, but I've never found a good one yet; they all waste every shred of potentially detailed interaction between the worlds and just toss the characters from one story or the other into the other situation as poorly written crossovers often do.

 

I always thought that HP and BBC's Merlin could easily work well together. There are a few crossover fics using this fusion that were good. One in particular was very good(minus the fact that it was written before and thus ignores season 5 of BBC's Merlin).

 

HP/Worm.

The magical world did not know what to expect when an entity names Scion appears and then wizards start getting powers along with muggles.

 

See, I can't put my finger on the exact reason, but I avoid HP/Merlin crossovers like the plague.

I don't check pairings, I don't check the summary, I just click "ignore." Same thing with HP/Sherlock Holmes and HP/Supernatural. :fire

It just occurred to me that there aren't many Vampire Chronicles crossovers out there. I'm assuming it's partially because the series is too old for today's teens to have discovered it, and thus started wanking to it; the vampires aren't sparkly enough; and there's only one emo chick obsessed with a vampire in the series, and she doesn't appear until the third book, which makes her a poor avatar onto which Bella-wannabes could project themselves.

Yeah, Anne Rice prohibited fan fic of her stories but... well, when has that stopped anyone, really? Come to think of it, her sales would probably pick up considerably if there were more fan fic of her stuff out there.

For better or worse, that's how I discovered the Anita Blake series.

 

I would read the shit out of a HP/Worm fic.

Would it be too cliche to give Harry powers though?

 

I think the idea of a HP/Worm crossover is pretty interesting because Harry's powers aren't immediately game breaking like they are in a lot of crossovers. Yes, magic is still pretty ridiculous and versatile, but going up against things like the Endbringers or compared to someone like Eidolon it isn't too bad. Not to mention Scion of course.

Plus, it would be interesting to see Harry try and use magic to counter all the different powers in the Wormverse. That's where you can show off some of the aforementioned versatility of HP magic.

If you really want to throw a curveball into the mix you could even apply the Manton effect to Harry's magic, so he can't cast any spells that directly affect other people (or maybe just himself? No healing, invisibility, etc.) I'd say that dropping Harry by himself into the Worm universe would probably be better than the entire wizarding world existing there though - I can't imagine the Endbringers doing very well against wizard armies (although I guess this thread is for discussing HP fusions...).

On giving Harry powers though, I don't think he really needs any considering magic potentially puts him on par or above the Triumvirate.

 

A manga that comes to mind which could fuse well is Mx0; it's about a magical school hidden away from the non-magic users with a main character who everyone expects far greater things out of than he actually portrays.

 

A guy that starts with no magic but everyone believes he is one of the strongest in the school because of a misunderstanding that is not cleared because one of the teachers screwed up by letting him in and he would be fired if people found out.

The magic system is somewhat compatible with Harry Potter. They use some kind of card in which they can load a spell and the better grades they get (according by how original they are at solving problems with limited resourses) the stronger the card they get, which allows them to either use more spells or a stronger one. So you either have a few weak spells to use or a strong one.

 

A universe that would merge seamlessly with HP would be Novik's Temeraire series. Both set in the UK, both utilize real world history. And the point of change would be the dragons that can speak. I don't think it would be necessary for Harry to travel back in time to the Napoleonic Wars for this to work. Simply do as the books did and create a parallel, magical world to the muggle one...but provide a magical explanation for how dragons escaped the Statute of Secrecy, a comparison of the treatment of dragons in both magical/muggle culture...it'd be worldbuilding with guidelines from both series.

 

I think this is around the third time I'm mentioning this, but there's Esama's crossover written about Harry/Temeraire, involving travel in dimentions, that was somewhat better than almost recomendable - maybe even 3.75/5. ('Alone Together'?)
It stopped not too long after the first part ended, and even if it was advertised as slash, there had been none (It's a plus side of most of Esama's unfinished stories for people who don't read slash - she never* reaches the point where romance should begin). Obviously, not found in ff.net since the takedown of all her stories, but Esama's archive is linked somewhere in DLP.

*Nothing I read of the bunch.

Anywho - it's been done.

 

Wizard's First Rule and the sequels would be pretty cool with HP in it I think.