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Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by jwlk, Nov 20, 2013.

  1. Aerylife

    Aerylife Not Equal

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    Alright, I don't want to have the same argument with you that I had with Fonti. I thought Fonti was scum because she jumped on someone I thought was town, and it seemed like she was fishing for info. I later realized after her rage quit, that she didn't have the same info as me and I was way to presumptuous in my scum read of her. I unvoted and a lot people followed, but she still ended up biting the bullet due to my actions. I'm not too confident in my reads atm, and Eric is already being pressured by other people. I didn't like Zeit and I said as much. My reply to you was pretty much a NOU, but that was purely based upon the fact that I have nothing else to say atm.

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    Also, Cop please check me, it townfirms Kai and clears me. That'll prove there are at least 3 scum left, unless I was right about Fonti, but considering her later post I somehow doubt it. I'm a little suspicious of Titus not wanting to check me though, makes me think Scum are trying to use me as a smokescreen again.
     
  2. Titus

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    Sesc, he's saying why would scum attempt to conftown their last player so early, not about theoretical realities I believe.

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    Ruckyree, I'll advocate for what I think is best. If that makes me suspicious, screw you.
     
  3. Aerylife

    Aerylife Not Equal

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    Ok? I don't really understand why everyone is getting so emotional :/ Personally I'm just throwing random accusations out and seeing if anything sticks, so thanks for the amusing/interesting reaction Titus :awesome
     
  4. Titus

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    Ruckyree, I probably overreacted due to some work drama I am dealing with on a Sunday.
     
  5. KaiDASH

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    ericf (4+5e): ollie (#501), sesc (#551), wetnurse (#556), luckylee (#561) || titus (#544), billdoor (#581), blab (#582), prophylaxis (#583), rubicon (#588)

    wetnurse (1): ericf (#541)

    Day ends in just under 16 hours.

    With 12 active votes (11 players + lump) it takes 7 to lynch.
     
  6. Sesc

    Sesc Slytherin at Heart Moderator

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    ... then he should have asked that. What is it with people and expressing themselves?

    Anyway, I'm sure that came up already. Anyone who disagrees has to explain why Town!Kai A) fakeclaimed (bad), B) fakeclaimed the role that would get him insta-ganked (worse), C) fakeclaimed when he was at 5-5 tie in lynch votes with Aekiel (are you kidding me?).

    You don't get to say oh he must have been Town, and then not explain why he felt like dying on Day1. Because I don't care what weird reasons everyone tried to construct, if I fakeclaim Judge and the real Judge is still alive, I'm going to die, and that's it. There aren't any maybes. No Judge in their right mind would not kill the fake Judge, and that's why no Town in their right mind would fakeclaim Judge -- completely leaving aside that fakeclaiming as Town is bad in general, unless you have really really good reasons (and this debate is exactly the reason why).

    Mind, for the same reason, it doesn't make a lot of sense for Mafia to fakeclaim Judge either usually, but if the two wagons indeed were both on them, then the fakeclaim decided who of them died. And obviously, for some weird reason I still don't understand, it plunged the thread into complete disarray when no NK happened, so if that was the plan, it worked like a charm.


    At any rate, I severely disliked how Luckylee went about his reveal that he was supposedly protected (dislike as in "it makes it harder to buy"), and I see no reason at all why fontisian had to die for making a rational argument (and then, to make it even more ironic, sway everyone back over with a single post. Talk about consistency).
     
  7. Aerylife

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    Eh I've already admitted I fucked up the situation Fonti. I'm not really interested in wasting time having a mechanics argument with you about how ridiculous it is to forgo a nightkill for the sake a ridiculously over the top ploy, Sesc. I can't really prove my claim, so I'd prefer if it the cop just checked me :/
     
  8. Titus

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    Sesc, I hate dealing with idiotic plays and that fakeclaim was one regardless of alignment. I coulde see townKai doing that if he thought Eric's slot was town and Kai had a weak role. The scum save theory only works is if the scum have daychat. Without daychat scumhave no method of relaying this plan.

    It also adds insult to injury if Ruckylee says to check him. If the cop takes that gambit tonight Ruckylee is hosed unless he kills the cop. In addition, he'd still need a fake claim, forcing him to go all in and claim acolyte or spiritcaller. Judge, he gets whacked by judge. Crusader, he gets vigged. Even then, the Oracle orGravedigger can out say say only one scum is left by saying I am the Oracle or Gravedigger.

    That plan has far too many holes to work imo.

    My bet is townKaidash thought EricF's slot was town and had a role like DOB.
     
  9. EricF

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    So, question for everyone blindly following Titus:

    Why are you taking his word that my claim is false? At worst, shouldn't you lynch your second most likely target, and let the witches waste their night kill on me?

    If I was lying, you can still get a quick & easy lynch tomorrow when I survive the night.
     
  10. blab

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    I think you were closer the first time

    Anyway, your scumteam makes even less sense, because
    a) His claim in no way eased off the pressure off Aekiel,
    b) scum didn't nightkill on the off-chance to townfirm LuckyLee
    c) which fails if LuckyLee is either priest-checked, or the Oracle checks correctly
    d) which doesn't mesh with KaiDASH suggesting the Clown+Oracle thing
    How does tha even remotely make sense, especially as the lynch on KaiDASH or Aekiel was far from sure, given that they were both at 4 votes and LuckyLee had his vote on Kai, and Kai his on Aekiel.

    To me Kai's claim doesn't make sense as town either, but I honestly can't see how you can say that scum!Kai is the more reasonable assumption, considering everything: No kill(retarded and risky play for towncred) vs. protection, one possible scum team vs. many, no oracle coming forward to trade LuckyLee 1 for 1...
     
  11. Sesc

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    Yeah, sorry. I misremembered, the first time I looked it up. Just to make clear what we're talking about, this is what happened before Kai claimed Judge:

    [4] Zeitgeist - Wetnurse (#45) blab (#71) Proudboar (#115) fontisian (#136)
    [2] KaiDASH - Rubicon (#107) Uncle Stojil (#144)
    [2] Aekiel - Bill Door (#51) Prophylaxis (#101)
    [1] fontisian - KaiDASH (#143)
    [1] Prophylaxis - Rents (#157)


    --> Zeitgeist (Aekiel, 3)
    --> KaiDASH (Aekiel, 4)
    <-- Probellum (Zeitgeist, 3)
    --> Probellum (fontisian, 2)
    <-- fontisian (Zeitgeist, 2)
    --> fontisian (KaiDASH, 3)
    --> Luckylee (KaiDASH, 4)​

    Make of that what you want, but don't tell me Kai -- as a sole Town player -- was forced to do what he did, essentially committing suicide. It only makes sense as a part of a bigger entity. And yes, as such, Mafia!Kai makes more sense. Don't forget it's only retarded as long as it isn't working. If I'm not insisting, no one seems to, and if Luckylee then is the last witch and everyone thinks the opposite, it's suddenly the best play ever.

    @Titus as well. "I hate dealing with idiotic plays" all right, and so what -- we just ignore it? And sure the Witches will have Day Chat, why wouldn't they?


    But all right, here's the Town variant, then. Let's see if you like that one better.

    Kai was the Acolyte, saw that Aekiel the Priest was close to getting lynched, and took the lynch to protect him. So we do what about EricF?
     
  12. Titus

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    Yeah... not just my word and in fact I am sheeping Rubicon's logic on this one. You ain't the cop. Cops don't avoid their so called guilty like the plauge. Bill Door also was the first to call you out. I just happen to be the most vocal because I am the most active.

    Town!Kai makes sense if he thought Town!EricF existed. However, my plan accounts for either eventuality. So I'd rather wait it out. Take out the confscum and deal with Ruckylee tomorrow.
     
  13. Aerylife

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    Luckyree doesn't need to be dealt with since Ruckylee is town.
     
  14. Titus

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    Then that will come out tomorrow or the scums will NK you to prevent that situation from happening.

    Don't you find it odd that we were the two night kills and then Eric and Sesc are throwing dirt this way?

    Scum NKing makes little sense.
     
  15. EricF

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    Cops who don't want to end up sleeping in fish soup keep their reads close to the vest unless they are about to get killed.

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    It's really easy to confirm my town-ness just by letting the witches kill me tonight, and you can lynch WetNurse tomorrow.
     
  16. Titus

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    ^^^ Betrays you aren't the cop. If hypothetically, the group was moronic and decided to let you live AND was even more stupid in believing you, we'd lynch Wetnurse today, not tomorrow.

    Cops who don't want to sleep with soup don't go OMG I am the cop, but they certainly can actually FOS scum.

    "OMG, I am the cop, must avoid interacting with my guilty." Said no cop ever.
     
  17. EricF

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    If my claim is in question, then the whole claim is in question, including the "wetnurse guilty" part. Why would you act on half the claim before getting confirmation?
     
  18. KaiDASH

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    Day is over, don't post further.
     
  19. jwlk

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    Day 3 is over!

    EricF has reached majority and is lynched!

    Night 3 will last for 24 hours, or 12 hours if everyone checks in (and uses their role within that time frame)

    ericf (4+5e): ollie (#501), sesc (#551), wetnurse (#556), luckylee (#561) || titus (#544), billdoor (#581), blab (#582), prophylaxis (#583), rubicon (#588)

    wetnurse (1): ericf (#541)
     
  20. KaiDASH

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    fillers for killers
     
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