First, Zeit was scum and would have logically hated me being very difficult to lynch.

Second, Custer is appearing to rile me up or is scum. I don't know which. There is also town motivation in saying that and not voting to help me live longer. I am not worried about it. It is obviously inexplicable and wrong.

 

Interesting response.

I want to hear from Custer before sharing my own thoughts.

 

Stepping in to answer a few questions.

Everytime I read Titus' posts the tone I get from it is more "Anti-Scum" than "Pro-town". Note how she tried to call herself confTown early on in D1 when she revealed that she can Doublevote (Something I'm glad Ird called her out on).

I have yet to find a single reference where Titus refers to herself as Town.

Combine that with my win condition uses language that says Eliminate all threats to town rather than Eliminate all scum. Previous games of this size have included a third side, so I'm inclined to believe that one does it exist, especially in concordence with some of the stuff TItus can do.

 

Rubicon, having Custer talk will help figure that out. I don't really see resolving Custer toda. I could see Custer as scum but the flavor in the update post "shot through the eyes" suggests Possum was a mob hit. So scum trying to kill me and then suggesting sk is unlikely. Rather, I wouldthink scum tried to do something else and freaked when I commuted. I am speculating here supposing Custer!scum which I have no clue on.

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You didn't like me referring to myself as conftown, yet you cannot find me referring to myself as town.

You think anti-scum isn't protown.

You think there's a third party based on the fact the mod gave me a commute ability and revealed my double vote status at the start of the game.

Basically, this is fabricated and ignores common sense.

 

How come?

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Ok so why is Titus an SK again? I missed the part where you explained that.

 

So let's see.

We know Titus can Commute sentences. Or at least, that's the terminology that she chose to divulge. She has two votes. That in combination with the jail mechanic for town would be very strong indeed. I'm starting to come around potentially to custer's way of thinking. That, and Titus keeps calling the idea of a third party ridiculous when, under this setup, it clearly isn't. Something to think about, at least.

 

Zennith, I don't commute sentences in mafia. Commuting is the act of leaving town during the night where ALL actions taken on me fail.

 

Interesting, I didn't know the phrase, since I've only played here. Can you do it to others, or just yourself, and how much gold does it take?

 

I do it just to myself. I think it was a counter to the fact the mod involuntarily revealed me as a double voter. I'd be kill death number one. It costs 1 gold everytime I do it.

What did you mean by commute sentences? The only thing I'm aware of commuting sentences occurs in the meat world. What is a sentence for purposes of this game?

 

Oh, that was just me referring to my mechanic of sentencing people to a day in jail. I thought that your ability specifically countered mine, which does not actually seem to be the case.

 

Yeah, the single NK is a bit of a hole in my argument re:Titus. At the moment I don't really feel like going after her is worth it this early on; her interests and the Town's interests happen to coincide. I'd be much more interested in pursuing a lynch on someone who's scum, like Zenn/Sloth or figuring out which of ika/Citrus is scum. Take from that what you will, my vote is still on Zennith.

 

Ok that makes sense that you'd think we'd be diametrically opposed then.

Mafiascum Wiki on Commuting

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Why are Zennith/Sloth and ika/Citrus necessarily opposing factions?

Rubicon, Custer is too careful and always leaves an escape hatch. I don't want to take a run at him, until I am sure who what he is and then figure out alignments based on reactions to him. Notice here, he's left all his accusations as vague and can dredge them up whenever convenient or go well no finally I'm convinced no third party. Confidence shouldn't leave an escape hatch.

 

Titus, was your double-voter power given to you by another player?

 

No. I started with it. It is a passive ability revealed by the mod at the start of the game. No player has given me any ability to my knowledge.

 

Ew, I missed this. Downgrading my read of Custer accordingly. Fyi, Nemrut did a little SK hunting as well, but it looked more towny.

 

I actually thought of the same thing earlier and forgot to ask if it was normal to say "eliminate all threats" rather than "eliminate all other scum." Someone here is a third party. My guess is Titus or Ika. If not, then one of them is scum.

 

I personally think "Eliminate all threats" is either Prophylaxis aiming for an ambiguous win condition that doesn't give away information about the setup, -or- there is a third party but it's not Titus.

Prophylaxis making the third party a mod-confirmed double-voter would simply be cruel. A third party has to survive to the very end to win, and that power would paint a huge target on her back. Even with a commuter power, it would be a virtually unwinnable role.

The only way I can see it working is if Titus received her power from someone else through a random twist of fate (but then she wouldn't risk lying about it).

Either way, she should be playing more passive if that's the case, minimizing the threat she poses to scum. Certainly not declaring herself confirmed town D1.

Also I'm not sure Titus would've shot Possom as an SK. This is WIFOM, but I'd expect her to shoot someone who was a bigger threat. Possom hadn't posted at all.

 

I agree with that--I don't understand why Possom was the one to go. Originally, I thought it was the scum kill for the night, but everyone else seems to suspect otherwise. Either way, it doesn't make sense to get rid of Possom. From a scum standpoint, he wasn't doing ANYTHING.

 

Those are the win conditions Prophy has listed. I doubt Prophy would include a third party and then not give its wincon.