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Brass & Tax Mafia

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Prophylaxis, Mar 24, 2014.

  1. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Oh he's Moridin. Ugh can the info post be updated with that info please?
     
  2. Titus

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    No. Prophy can't edit that which is odd bc I can edit my first posts.

    He gave us a QT to check, that's where you can see flavor as well.
     
  3. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Yeah I mean the QT, it hasn't been updated since Possum's death
     
  4. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Zennith: Could you describe ika and Citrus' level of interaction in the jail QT? Have they talked to each other? How much? How natural did it seem?
     
  5. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    tee hee hee

    wanna play a game?

    ask me any yes or no questions. And i will answer it

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    it cant be about yourself though
     
  6. Zennith

    Zennith Pebble Wrestler ~ Prestige ~

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    Honestly, there hasn't been a whole lot of it. Most of Ika's posts have been along the lines of "I have thoughts, I'll post them later". Citrus has been asking me questions and for reads, I've found his posts to be pretty tame/not suspicious overall.

    Frankly, there hasn't been much to learn from Jailchat, unfortunately, due to Ika's lack of post content. He was pretty pissed when I revealed the Jail mechanic, though.
     
  7. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Citrus was pissed?
     
  8. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    everything i posted in there is 100% truth. i already stated i sniped a few notes from here to post in there.

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    can someone at least talk to me to pass the time?
     
  9. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    At the time I was. I raged a bit at Zennith about how he outted everything without saying anything about it first in jail chat. I also was leaning toward Zennith scum and thus ika town at the time.

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    Ika, how much gold will you give me when you die?
     
  10. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    i will give you all of it cirtus.

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    as long as you promis to execute our warden for being an idiot and outing the entire jail mecanic

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    also i cant wait for next game

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    hmmm...

    serious question for everyone:

    should i change my observe to sign for titus game?

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    give everyone a better chance to get to know me w/o titus :)
     
  11. Prophylaxis

    Prophylaxis Squib

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    Vote Count 1.9 (votecount BEFORE daykill)
    (8 to lynch)

    ika (4): blab, Maiden, Titus, Titus
    Zennith (2): Custer, Irdiumstern
    Irdiumstern (1): Sloth

    Abstain (Eight): Zennith, Moridin, Luckylee, Riley Poole, ika, Rubicon, fontisian, Citrus

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    Vote Count 2.0 (current votecount)
    (8 to lynch)

    ika (4): ika, Luckylee, Titus, Titus

    Abstain (10) Rubicon, Zennith, Sloth, blab, Citrus, Irdiumstern, Custer, Riley Poole, Maiden, Moridin

    The Info Board has been updated.
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2014
  12. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    ill be back later time to get ready for work again
     
  13. Sloth

    Sloth Professor DLP Supporter

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    Hungry for apples?
    Ok, back.
    Don’t even know if I still need to do this after your recent posts, but I already explained:
    As far as I’m concerned, the bolded parts are the parts that townfirm me as much as anything short of Word of God can. It took me less than a minute of casual thought to come up with a much better way to use the DK, and you can’t tell me using it on Fonti like it was would have been a complete and utter waste if it had been me.

    If anyone doesn’t think that sounds right, fine. Tell me why.

    --

    Now, let’s look at Lee…
    I don’t know what to make of him. He seems like a huge troll, and I am really uncomfortable saying he’s even 50% Town in my eyes. Demanding gold makes it even worse, but he probably does have Vig powers

    …He could still be a scum vig, or even an SK. Yes, I’m still working with the idea of third parties. (Quick question to those that have played with him before: Does he add some RP to his roles?)

    But he claims to be Town!Vig, that’s fine, that works for Town.
    Ok then. Looking at this, we know the problem immediately: Irdium has stated that you can’t decide who to give gold to post-mortem. It has to be before.


    Assuming that’s true, I don’t see why Fonti would have given Lee any gold: I’ve gone over her post, and the most recent, most positive thing she had to say for him was in #424, were she said she felt ok with him. Since then, she has prodded him, demanded to know if he was scum, and scrutinized him over his desire to hammer, plus that “code” with Rubicon (care to explain, Rubi?). So, yeah, it doesn’t look likely that she would have thought him as reliable Town before her death.

    This gives us 3 options:
    a. Irdium is lying. He’s my scumread, and he has been acting somewhat like newb!scum, he’s also claimed that Proph has confirmed stuff for him before so maybe he’s hoping we won’t question it. Admittedly this is unlikely, but it’s also easily verifiable: I’ve asked Proph to explain that aspect of Last Will, and if you haven’t already, I recommend you do.
    b. Lee is lying about getting gold, hoping to townfirm himself in our eyes (unaware that fonti can’t decide after the DK), and hoping to push others that have gotten gold into saying so.
    c.1. Town has gold-gift ability and has used it on Lee.
    c.2. Scum has gold-gift ability and has used it on Lee.

    I’m not sure which one seems more likely now, but I want some thoughts on this.

    Lee, question: Exactly how much gold did you receive?

    Also, regardless of how it was done, Lee, you got what you wanted. Gold.
    So, shall we start voting on who you should shoot?
    If you’re Town Vig, you should have no problem with that, and you should hit the target wee give you. If you’re not Town Vig…well, we’ll see what happens.
    In the meantime though, I’m not comfortable with the idea of giving you more gold until at least a few Days of you being a reliable attack dog.

    Slow and steady wins the race and all that.

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    Keep in mind, Citrus might have been wrong about the communication, that’s what we’re trying to decisively find out by asking in our QTs.


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    @Irdium
    Your post is pointless, and you’re upfront about it. Fonti say that you admitting such things made you Town in her eyes, and now she’s dead. Not exactly related, but…Hurry up with your morning post.
     
  14. Titus

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    Sloth, I can't quite agree with that. Using a dayshot on the day when you're the lynch target pretty much screams scum. If you waited until a wagon developed on you, I'd pretty much auto lynch you barring some pretty strong circumstances. Here would be the ideal time for Scum!Sloth to use it. I don't think you're scum but you ain't conftown.
     
  15. Zennith

    Zennith Pebble Wrestler ~ Prestige ~

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    I was actually referring to Ika being mad. Citrus was annoyed, sure, but Ika was much more so.

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    It's worth noting/remembering that both Titus and I have received gold as well. I got just one.
     
  16. Sloth

    Sloth Professor DLP Supporter

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    Hungry for apples?
    Zennith, I...wanted to see what he'd say first without a frame of reference. -__-
    Thanks for the info, I guess.

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    Yes. I think you may have misunderstood:
    I meant that there was no convincing anyone I was Town anyway, so might as well take someone out with me.
    But even with that, I'm honestly still not seeing how now, at that time, would have been ideal to do.

    That aside, thoughts on what I say on Lee?

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    "at that time" meaning "at the time fonti was earlier today"
     
  17. Titus

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    Sloth, what if the third gold Lucky got was meant for Rubicon but Lucky intercepted it somehow?

    Beyond that, I've pretty much said your lucky wall before you did.

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    Supposing Scum!Sloth,

    Shooting tomorrow is boned city. Shooting tonight = huge target. Shooting today == blame ika. Given ika claimed the shot, I'm not to high on this one. If ika's lying, he's probably lying for Luckylee at this point.

    But I would be pretty ingenious if you shot Fonti at the moment.
     
  18. Zennith

    Zennith Pebble Wrestler ~ Prestige ~

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    Sloth, are you saying he was just going to forget that we'd also gotten gold? We both posted and conversed about it RIGHT after he did. I don't think he's THAT dumb, dude.
     
  19. Sloth

    Sloth Professor DLP Supporter

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    ...ok, again then.

    Zennith, the exact question was: "Lee, question: Exactly how much gold did you receive?" Key word being 'exactly'

    If you look back at the posts about you lot getting gold...
    Lee didn't state how much gold he received, only you and Titus said 1 gold. There's a reason I'm asking him this.

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    @Titus
    Hm. Point on that strategy. Honestly, I never considered it. That's one thing about my gameplay, I guess. The only times I consider relying on others is when I can't think of a satisfying strategy I can do on my own.

    As for Lee intercepting...interesting. ...And very, very likely.
    It'd be strange--between Titus, Zennith and Lee, Lee's the odd man out in Fonti's reads. She seemed far more comfortable calling Rubi Town than she did calling him scum, so why not send him something?

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    @Rubicon
    Did you get any gold and not say anything?
    Also, looking forward to your promised reads for Lee.

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    Also, to get the ball rolling, voting on Vig target.

    Obvious targets: Irdium, Blab, Custer.

    Anyone else?
    Considering Riley, he still acts sloopy and gets really defensive at times, then drops things quickly. People say derp!Town, but isn't he too experienced for that?
     
  20. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    I didn't receive gold. I don't think it's surprising font sent gold to Lucky, though. It sounds like she distributed it between her top town reads.

    I'm working on writing stuff up now.

    The gist of it, minus reasoning, is that shooting / lynching the following players will probably win the game:

    Irdiumstern
    Custer
    Blab
    Moridin

    And if the game is still going after that, look at you and Maiden.

    Looking through his posts, I think Irdium could be the sleeper scum. My main thing is, he seemed unusually relaxed, inquisitive, etc. early on despite coming under pressure. Daychat & coaching might explain this.
     
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