Should we treat Lee like outed scum and narrow him to one target to shoot at night?

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You think that Fonti was townreading Lucky, more than you? Explain please.

 

I honestly have trouble imagining Font sending Lucky gold unless she knew something. However convinced she was of his towniness, I think whatever the hell possessed him right after her death is typical of why that's a bad idea. Plus, as said, Rubicon would be a better choice.

I think Lucky should be taking two targets tonight. For one thing, it proves his claim that he got enough gold for an extra shot. For another, it narrows his role down to exactly what he says. If we can come to a consensus on which targets to choose, that'd be the best way to do things imo.

 

I like Custer and Ird for the shots. Discuss.

 

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Wouldn't surprise me. I had a strong town-read on him until a few pages ago.

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Okay, who would you choose?

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Meta says Titus is probably town for her interactions with Zeitgeist and ika.

 

I mean, I just can't believe Ika hasn't even tried a roleclaim. Unless that happened somewhere in the crazy fucking two pages from a while back that were impossible to get my head around.

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But really, for applicable things, I agree that Lucky should take two shots and at least confirm his PR. I'm liking the irdium shot for sure, but I'm less certain about Custer. Are we on the town-train now with Sloth? What do people think?

 

He claimed Town Messenger.

I think Sloth is town, will put together an argument later. Would not shoot. His play is WAY too much like his play in previous games. This would be his first game as scum. Also I think he's smart enough not to have made some of the comments he's made about Zeitgeist and ika about a buddy.

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Also his frustration with fontisian seemed real to me.

 

I never fake my frustration/rage. It is very hard for me to even attempt something like that. Every post that have a tone of frustration/rage is never faked. If you ever doubt it. You can ask titus.

If i ever try to fake it, i will have to force myself to put myself in that mindset to try to post like that.

 

Custer and blab, personally. I agree with Rubicon re: Sloth. I don't see the inherent scumminess in Irdiumstern that warrants putting him above those two. That said, we have just under two days, so we have time to discuss and stuff.

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ika, I think Rubicon was referring to Sloth's frustration?

 

oh...

meh, at this point if theres something that perks me, i will respond, maybe give some insight to how i play

 

Thanks. Reading back I see how I skipped over that in the shitstorm.

And I can potentially buy what you're saying about Sloth. How are you feeling about Custer? I'm honestly having a hard time getting a read on him.

 

From the 8 posts he's made so far, I think he's scum, but he hasn't given me much to go on.

 

Right, which is why I'm also having trouble getting a bead on him.

Custer. Tell us why you're not scum, and who you think is after all this craziness. You last posted about 9 hours ago, and there's a ton that's happened since then.

 

Well then, I'll get started

Narrowing Luckylee down to two targets seems like a good enough plan with his prior behavior. Out of the options listed above, I personally like the blab and Moridin (Who replaced Nemrut, right? I didn't have a high opinion of him D1) the most. Custer could be trying to lurk through, so we need to see more content from him.

Zennith: I'm still not liking how you failed to put a vote on me and have been completely ignoring me. When I flip town (Or if titus dies tonight), I suggest you look here.

Moridin: Not liking his most recent posts. 729 is filler without actual scumhunting, and 722 is parroting what titus and rubicon have been saying. Scumy

Blab: I'll admit that this one is more gut feeling and lurkiness than anything else. Scumy

Rubicon: I think you're scumhunting, but your posts come off as odd and all over the place to me. If there's a third party, I think you are it. Otherwise, probably town.
Actually, looking back, I really really don't like your post #679. In #720 I'm apparently scum, but in #679 when you're defending yourself Luckylee is wrong on all points.

Titus: Pretty sure he's town.
@Titus: Regarding your double vote: How many days do you have left? Or did you claim in a post a little while ago that you'd lose your double vote after the game got down to 8 votes?

Sloth: Killing Fonti with another scum's dayshot and blaming it on ika would be amazing play. I don't think it's very likely, but the possibility exists. For now, I think he's town, but if the vig shots turn out to hit all town, it might be worth looking here.

Custer: Needs more posts. Hasn't exactly done much. I'd prefer to see the people that I think are actually scummy be shot first, but this is also an idea. Null leaning scum.

Maiden: One townslip and he disappeared off of everyone's radar again. Might be worth checking out tomorrow. Null

Riley: He was here for the clusterfuck, and his reaction seemed genuine to me. I think he's leaning town.

Citrus: The mechanics talk from fonti's will seemed somewhat odd to me, but I still think he's town.

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Rubicon: Regarding your comments about me being too calm. If I think I'm reacting in anger, I generally type out the post, look it over, and then close the tab if I think it's only kneejerk anger in regards to honest pressuring. Luckylee's bullshit earlier got me mad, and some of that was way too kneejerk for me to usually post.

 

First of all, I'm sorry about yesterday. I was travelling and phoneposting/browsing didn't work out the way I thought. I'll binge through.

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Alright, I think I missed something, because why does anyone believe ika when he claimed dayvig? He tried to hammer himself, if he were dayvig, he would have tried to shoot before that.

 

@blab, ika was faking the self-hammer bit. He loves playing/faking jester. I haven't ruled out him faking claiming but he's either scum or covering for them. I can't see town!ika shooting Fonti without discussion on Fonti.

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Oh I am going to be out for awhile today. Work thing. Try to keep the chaos to a minimum.

 

Yeah I'm not gonna be around today, class and work. Explain reads/why who you want me to shoot, kthx. I'll prob check in tonight, ciao.

 

Ird, I am not directly answering your question.

 

If a person is placed in the jail, are they immune from NK's?

 

@Titus
ok, I can see ika faking self-hammer, then he can still be the dayvig. why would he cover for scum if he isn't scum? I don't see why you still operate under the assumption that he can be not scum. Even if nothing he's done before, claiming dayvig should have scumfirmed him.

@Sloth
Your defense in #713 is weak.
You are
a) straw-manning
you weren't accused of being dayvig, you were accused of being scum (so probably on the same team as dayvig)
b) is just going to end up in WIFOM
you're trying to get us to believe your words on what you do if you are scum. (counterargument: you would do the exact opposite, ad infinitum)


Sloth is still scum, I haven't seen any convincing argument on why he isn't.
Actually, the strongest, imo, comes actually from myself in #177.


@Rubicon+Citrus:
Can I have a case on me please? If we are going to make a plan involving nightkilling me I at least want to know why you think I'm scum. All I remember is Moridin's read and that was weak.

Rubicon, you can start by finally answering my question and tell me why my reaction was off. Is it the same reason as Moridin's?

@Lucky:
Kill Sloth. If I get something resembling a reasonable case on me I even am willing to trade my life for it because the conf!townblock is large enough.

@Riley: zennith said yes