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Brass & Tax Mafia

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Prophylaxis, Mar 24, 2014.

  1. Titus

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    @Blab, he's scum or jester. Jester tries to get lynched and thus would claim the kill, even if he didn't do it.

    @Riley, yes
     
  2. Riley

    Riley Alchemist DLP Supporter

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    Ok, so what if I had a way to prove I was town in two Days?

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    I'd Need to be jailed the first day so I can communicate with someone and then the second day would be the day it's proven.
     
  3. Titus

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    Why can't you just talk here?
     
  4. Riley

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    Because it'd require a more public role reveal. It'd be safer to do this through the Jail mechanic. I can do it publicly I suppose but there's still too many scum running about.

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    Actually, screw it, I don't care if scum shoots me in the night.


    I am the Town Auditor, my ability requires 2 gold but it allows me to look at someone and see how much gold they currently possess. I used it the first night on Fonti and came up with 4 gold.


    The reason I felt the need to reveal is because currently only two people are claiming to have received 1 gold from her and that means either:

    A) she used a power that costs 2 gold
    B) one or two other's received the rest of the gold.


    Make of this info what you will. If I'm jailed or killed tonight it won't matter as I don't have enough gold to run a second check. If I survive longer and received a single gold I can run a second check and see who's used all theirs. We might be able to determine who Day-vigged based on that.

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    So help me if someone adds a C) Riley's lying I will tunnel the fuck out of you until you're lynched.
     
  5. Titus

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    Riley, why can't Fonti's ability cost one gold?
     
  6. Moridin

    Moridin Minister of Magic DLP Supporter

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    Riley, don't forget Lucky also claimed to receive gold, enough to fund a second hit.

    That actually meshes with Titus' question. The third gold goes to Lucky, the fourth was used to run her ability is possible. Or third and fourth went to Lucky and she never got a chance to take out a second hit.

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    Uhh, crossed thought streams there. The last thing should be 'she never got a chance to use her ability'.
     
  7. Citrus

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    Ika slipped my role into one of his posts. He's confirmed not town.
     
  8. Riley

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    It's possible and covered by the second option in that only one other person received a gold.

    What I'm more concerned with though is that Proph told me in my QT that all Town Vanilla roles start with 3 gold. I'm not a town vanilla role but I started with 3 gold so I'm curious why the weatherman starts with 4 if she did indeed start with 4 gold and wasn't given one.

    A) If she started with 4 gold and used her power once for 1 gold, and then distributed the rest, that means there's potentially a third person.
    B) If she started with 4 gold and used her power once for 2 gold then we don't know what happened.
    C) If she started with 4 gold and didn't use her power and then distributed the rest there's 2 others or someone's lying.

    The option that really worries me is option C as it means that she potentially gave 1-2 gold to scum and they're hiding that fact. Either way we KNOW Fonti was town so what we need to figure out is what happened to the other 2 gold.

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    Lucky claimed to received 1 gold if I remember correctly. If that's not the case then this is all just pointless circular logic than.

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    Wait did three people claim receipt of Gold?

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    My original plan was to be jailed, reveal this to one person who could send me one gold. I'd use it on them to confirm their remaining amount and then we'd reveal the whole thing. This can still work outside of jail but then we run the risk of me dying or the recipient dying before I can confirm their amount.

    Best case scenario at this point is I get hit in the night and deliver my one gold to the person I think is most town.
     
  9. Citrus

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    Riley, there are 3 claims of gold receival

    Voting because I'm getting drunk later and don't want to accidentally not vote

    Vote: Ika

    Blab, the burden of proof is on you, not us. I gut scum read you, you've been coasting. Feel free to prove me wrong.

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    Riley, theoretically all that proves is your role, not your alignment evidenced by zeit, roles and alignments are reasonably unlinked

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    Oh and I confirm gold last wills must be done before death. So no way to communicate from the dead

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    @irid

    Propose a scum team please

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    @blab

    Kick-start to your defense: propose a scum team or two with some justification
     
  10. Riley

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    I'm not really sure why Scum would need an auditor Citrus.

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    Who was the third? Ika?
     
  11. Titus

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    Scum with an auditor can track PRs.

    Third was Lucky. You have just told him what is safe to claim he received. :facepalm
     
  12. Riley

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    Hence why I wanted to do it in the jail but if I'd said that I'd have looked scummy and would have been jumped on. I'd rather the info on Fonti be known than to die without sharing it Titus. IF someone tries to claim it at this point we'll know who's suspicious and who's not anyway so it doesn't matter what he claims.

    Especially since if I die and my role is revealed you can look at the appropriate people anyway.

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    I still don't understand who the third was. I know Titus and Lucky claimed but who else claimed?
     
  13. Citrus

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    -Vig Selection: Custer

    I think this kill target is pretty justified for at least 1 of the shots

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    Town Reads:
    Titus, Rubicon

    Loose town reads:
    Zennith, Maiden

    Somewhere in-between loose/null:
    Luckylee, Irdium

    Null reads:
    Riley, Moridin

    Scum reads:
    Custer, Blab

    Scum of the Earth:
    Ika

    @Riley yes I moved you to null

    @Ika
    If you send me all your gold, you can name a phrase and I'll refer to you with it from now on. Ex: Ika the glorious

    I'd prefer shooting Custer + Blab, in that order of priority

    In a nutshell:
    Custer seems to be coasting
    Blab seems to be also

    Neither of the two is scumhunting, which is a surprisingly easy way to detect scum

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    Null reads: Sloth, forgot him

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    Null = neutral on scum spectrum, not no read at all
     
  14. Moridin

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    Can't go through the thread properly just now, but see Sloth's #719.

    Lucky, what are your thoughts on Custer/Blab/Irdium?
     
  15. Citrus

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    Blab and Sloth may be unaligned upon further reading?
     
  16. Titus

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    Zennith = Third Claimer bbl
     
  17. Riley

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    This is also untrue as Lucky claims to have received the same "message" as you via the 1 gold "clue thing" a while back. Therefore I'm assuming either Lucky is town or two of: Titus, Lucky and Zennith are scum buddies and one of you is lying to throw off the number of gold you really received.

    Therefore:
    1)Someone got two gold between the three of you and is lying.
    2)Someone got 1 gold and hasn't posted.
    3)Fonti used one gold and gave out 3.
     
  18. Moridin

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    Considering Lucky misunderstands the purpose behind the message in that very same post, I wouldn't rely on that being a confirmation that he got exactly the same as Titus.

    That said, w/e. This discussion is relatively pointless unless we can pinpoint the perpetrator behind 1) or 2) or get some information regarding 3), none of which I see happening any time soon.
     
  19. Citrus

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    Hmm. Tossing the theory around that sloth lied about receiving gold and is scum, as font said specifically to lynch him if she dies. That feels extremely contrary to receiving gold as a town read...
     
  20. blab

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    I don't get it.
     
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