If Lucky isn't the serial killer, there either isn't one or they aren't killing. For now I think it's safe to assume no serial killer/third party exists.

Titus, care to post in jailchat?

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Journalist sends those interviews out. He gave Ika one N1, and someone one N2

 

Or Luckylee is scum. Damnit.

Vote: Luckylee

Explain.

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For now, just answering Blab since we’re pretty set otherwise, after 4 days straight of talking and discussing.
(Citrus, I’ve already answered you after Prophy ended the Day. Did my answer satisfy you? And could you tell me why you thought I was pushing to begin with?)

@Blab

My point was the way you worded it (like an order), and the fact that you addressed Luckylee with it, rather than talk about it with the group and try to convince them that I was the right target.
Like basically everyone else was doing.
That’s what I meant, granted, not a huge point against you, hence why I’m not voting you, but it got my attention

This, I worded poorly—I meant it looked like you hadn’t really read my posts in-depth BEFORE #892. At #892, you were clear and concise and it was obvious you had. It was odd that after several posts of insisting I was scum, it took this long for you to speak and analyze my actions in recent pages.

Your reasoning is interesting.
To use your own words, it feels like you’re straw-manning, with X being “average personality outside of the games” and Y being “game persona.” It seems that wouldn’t be a mistake you’d make, yet you use it to explain why I could be town. Again, very vexing.

More importantly, there’s also a sudden shift from #762 (the most recent one that mentions me directly or indirectly) to #892, in the way you address me. Not in the words (still think I’m scum, for example), but in the tone. You almost seem apologetic, and like you’re backtracking, and I’ve mentioned before how that raises a lot of alarms in my mind.
From a Scum mindset, it’s easy to see a scenario where you decided it’d be easy to turn the rest against me and have a mislynch, but when you saw Rubicon, Titus, and others not go for it, you decided that it was for the best to cut your loses and make sure it doesn’t look like so.

Of course, there’s nothing solid on this, I’m just brainstorming. If I had anything that made me think this is true, I’d have voted for you. This is also why I said I wasn’t comfortable calling you scum…but I am definitely not calling you town.

(Regarding your quotes, I figure that rather than try to appear conventional Town, I’ll just play how I see fit. When I keep flipping Town, people will eventually accept that I am not to be judged by how they would judge most players.
In other words, you’re 100% right about my arrogance: I don’t conform to you. You conform to me.)

She was also evidently wrong about Zennith. Who was in her mentor scumteam and whom she was sure I was coaching.
I’m not saying you shouldn’t remember her words, I’m saying that when you think I’m Town (and admittedly, this is more to Rubicon than you), and your only reason for thinking otherwise is because of fear of Fonti’s rage for arguments you already explained away, it strikes me as senseless to keep hanging on to the idea.
I suppose you should never be 100% convinced of anything without Mod-word, but if I do get lynched, I hope it’s because of something stronger than that.
Anyway, what I’m saying is that Fontisian can be wrong. Do what you will though.

That falls back to the initial argument for 3, and applies to 7, 9, etc.: “Very unlikely, it would be a strange as hell way to distribute the gold from prophy.”
He’d give him exactly enough for 1 shot, or 2. The reason I think this is because, from what little I know of Prophy, he’s a stickler for details and symmetry. A disparity like that would mess with his OCD something fierce.

Anyway, that’s it. Gonna fall back and observe toDay’s events a bit now.

Quick sorry for the sloppiness and the confusion on that post. Like I said, I was in a hurry.

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It no longer matters, but the interviewee was me.

Citrus, was Titus brought in last Night?

 

Stop trying to meta, that's an incredibly dumb reason to decide something like that. I can easily see Proph giving partial actions worth of gold, it incentivizes trying to get people to last will/payback them

Rubicon's reads should be taken very seriously.

1) Scum may have fearkilled him
2) He's confirmed town so they're true reads

"On the rest, I’m running my own gambit. I’ll know more come Morning."

Going to address this now, since you were the interviewee?

 

I actually figured it was you. The big giveaway was your accusation that I'm 'transparently newbie'. [What does that even mean?] I'm pretty sure that this makes the third time you've accused me of 'hiding away' or 'going along with everyone else'.
The first time you accused me of this, I gave a response that pleased you enough to back off.
This past time, you asked for an analysis on blab and Custer. Granted, I was only able to give you Custer, but I still put a lot of work into that damn it.

Now, once again, we come back full circle to this accusation. So what, pray tell, do you want me to say or do to prove to you that I am town and that I am genuinely trying at this damn game?

Also, 'Word, dawg. I’m outie.' gave it away, Sloth.

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@Citrus: On D2, you said you have some kind of information. What is it?

 

The information will be revealed soon (today) unless there's good reason not to reveal it.

 

I really don't like that, but for now I'll trust you. Do you mean toDay as in D3, or today IRL?

 

If not today IRL, with plenty of time for the accused to defend/everyone to work off the info

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(plenty of time before today's lynch is figured out)

 

Here, I am jailed. Reading... wtf Rubi

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I was expecting Rubicon to be a scumfuck for defending obvscum Riley. I'm going to have to reset.

 

@Citrus
I'm not sure why having two ready shots would discourage paybacks...?

Also, I'm really not sure if you directed this to me, but I assume not since I never said they shouldn't be and in fact my whole point was that he was legitimately scumhunting.
You're right in that they needed to have a reason why they hit Rubicon, and not, say, Zennith

This relied mostly on seeing the results of the Night Actions in order to know what to do next. What happened here was the worst scenario, leaving me with no clue where to go next, because, obviously, I was not following good leads.

Before I attempt anything more, I need to step back and get more info.

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Not act like it's starting to get personal to you would be a start. Reeks of AtE.
Point being, that's generally what I've noticed you doing, replying to posts pages ago while catching up, which at times made you look less than stellar and you being embarrassed about it. But you kept doing it, as early as yesterday, and at that point it seemed like a routine to keep looking like you were fumbling.

You're reacting rather strongly to a throw-away comment about my being concerned, too.

We'll see how you do toDay.

...Well the question was worded like "Your name was chosen fo' tonightz anon rap battle. What ya gotta say ta all tha playas out there?" so I tried to play along. XD

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Thanks for the answer Titus. This means, like I said, Zennith, Titus, and Citrus are reasonably Townfirmed. ...Or scum is seriously overpowered, which if so, WTF, prophy? What the actual fuck?

So, Scum is either Irdium, Custer, Blab, Lee, Riley, Maiden, Moridin. I'm not including myself, because I'm Town, and we can discuss that all you want tonight if need be.

Ugh. I was really hoping Lee would trim the names a bit.

Question for anyone: Roleblocking. Is EVERYTHING blocked for a Night? or just one action?

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This is all I'm going to be able to do tonight. Exhausted.
Will check back in the morning.

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Night all.

 

In what way was I appealing to emotion?
And by your 'throwaway comment', do you mean the interview?
The reason I reacted to this is because, like I said, this is the third time you've said something along these lines. It's a little frustrating is all.

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I'm going to head to sleep too, and hopefully, I'll have some fresh thoughts tomorrow. I was hoping that N2's lynch would provide some fresh insight into what's going on, but I feel like the scum were clever on this one, since it hasn't given me much to go on.

@ Prophy: Any luck on replacing Custer? It seems like something of a waste to cast a lynch vote for someone who can't even confirm or deny.

One last note: Bulletproof is for sale toDay and Watch was for sale on D2. Has anyone bought these?

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@Sloth: Why do you think Rubicon was targeted on N2?

 

The way lucky worded his night action, all his kills are the same night action, but a role blocker would block them all anyways

 

Guys, there's something else missing here. Both the day kill and Rubicon had the same flavor. Isn't that a little odd?

 

@Maiden: I attempted to buy the watch but was told I did not get it.

Let's see what lucky has to say for himself now
Vote: Luckylee

 

Scenario 1: Lucky lied about having kills in order to scrounge up gold for some other ability.

Scenario 2: Lucky was roleblocked.

Scenario 3: Lucky forgot to put in the kills.

Scenario 4: If kill survivals are not public (if anyone knows about this, please chime in), his target(s) survived.

Scenario 5: Lucky didn't want to put in the kills but didn't want to publicly defy town.

4 is unlikely given he had two targets. 3 is also unlikely since I'm not sure he can derp that much. 2 is a possibility. 1 could mean he's saving up for a blitz against town later when it would cripple/destroy us. 5 is doubtful since he could easily have killed me and one other town from the list of suspects, or just killed me and claimed the other was protected/survived or something.

All in all, considering we have no reason to believe in his claim, I'd say we lynch Lucky today unless we get information that changes things significantly.

Titus: What do you mean? The Fontisian daykill? That was just Vira saying "Fontisian has been daykilled". Could you clarify that?

 

If you look at the flavors of the kills in the quicktopic, the first nightkill has the flavor of "Shot between the eyes". Fontisian and Rubicon have "disappeared".

Huh, what if shot between the eyes is a third party kill, while disappeared is killed by scum?

 

I do think Luckylee went offscript but that he isn't group!scum.

Look at the info board. It uses "disappeared" for Fonti's death. Disappeared also applies to the Rubicon kill using the info board. It makes sense to conclude the same party did both. Shot between the eyes i a textbook mafia hit.

I think group!scum shot Zennith hitting a doctor or there's some other reason, i.e. Town winning a bp shot.

Mod: what flavor occurs if Rubi was shot by two factions?

Alpha Vote: Luckylee
Baker Vote: Riley Poole

 

Vote: Riley Poole

To even out the current bandwagons

 

Double Vote: Riley Poole

Lucky is likely being framed. We are missing two kills. Either a) the scum kill got blocked/healed and one of Lucky's kills did OR b) Scum made 1 kill with the ability to make it look like someone else did it. Or c) Lucky lied and self-sabatoged.

Given c is anti wincon for town or scum, I am eliminating it.

B is more likely here are I don't see Lucky as suicidal. Plus, two heals with me in jail holding the commute ability is unlikely.

 

Lucky still needs to give a direct and complete explanation upon his arrival

 

Agreed Citrus. Let's jailchat.