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Thanks for summarizing the massive blocks of text.

It doesn't make sense that a nonscum would lie about the basic foundations of the game so Citrus seems the most scummy.

Vote: Citrus

 

I literally just told Titus she was wrong about that in daychat (6:55PM ET) FYI, but I didn't catch her before she posted in here

 

Please explain FM 18.

I think I have most of the other items through the past few pages down. Thanks everyone for letting me catch up.

 

I'm still not sure I understand, so let me try to paraphrase what you mean:
Let's assume the scumteam is Zennith and Titus.
From my(Sloth's) perspective it would be optimal for Zennith and Titus to kill Citrus.
Citrus wasn't killed.
Therefore the already unlikely scumteam is even less likely.
Correct?

I'm still not understanding the stuff about "jail system having worked".

Well, the additional things that went through my head:
1. You could have killed him for towncred with the interview.
2. Titus could have killed him because he threatened town-leadership.
3. His town-reads could have killed him for gold.
4. Anyone could have killed him for a role-read, or just randomly.
5. Maybe he was just a dangerous obvious town, but unlikely to be protected.
6. Maybe scum wanted to kill Rubicon already N1 but didn't because they feared protect.

Your certainty is suspicious, because I'm not, and I'm usually (relative to my play) good at that.

@Titus, just a few points:

I actually found his reasoning believable (for Riley). (ika said "tibit" before, the interviewed said "tibit", therefore the interviewed is ika)

What if I told you that town!Riley is that derp. And from town!Riley's perspective it is unlikely that he'll get killed N1.

Probably the most damning thing of your stuff.

@Riley:
Let's assume Titus is scum. Who did you expect to kill Titus? Not a town!vigilante (because Titus is generally townread), not scum themselves. The potential SK?

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@Mathblade
both ika and Titus said that FM 18 was an old game they played. I don't actually remember if it was linked.

 

Shit, totally forgot to say because I said it in jailchat btw.

Ika sent me a message at day end yesterday, making a joke and telling me he sent me his 0 gold.

1) Ika lied (most likely)
2) Ika's sending messages does not cost gold
3) Ika used up the last of his gold with that message

If 3 -> Mafia abilities left are either fairly crappy or don't require gold

 

@Blab/Mathblade, I will be checking constantly to see if there is a public link. Otherwse, the only way to access the game is to register at sc2mafia.com. If you have specific question, just ask.

@Blab, unlikely to be killed doesn' mean inoring the mechnic ntirely.

@Mathblade, Why Citrus? He isn't lying but I cannot prove it without outing him.

Double Vote: Riley Poole

 

Vote Count 2.5
(6 to lynch)

Riley Poole (3): Citrus, Titus, Titus
Citrus (1): MathBlade
blab (1): Maiden
Sloth (1): blab

Abstain (6) Zennith, Custer, Riley Poole, Moridin, Irdiumstern, Sloth

 

Interesting. I thought the quote I posted was explanatory...Based on the quotes it seems that Citrus said that townies didn't get three gold. But are you saying he didn't lie when you said he did before?

Also what do you mean by outing him? Do you have information others do not? This intrigues me. Please explain why you'd have to out him.

@blab, Thanks for the context.
@Citrus, please go on about this daychat referenced earlier

UNVOTE

 

I thought it was obvious I was hoping for the SK or a Town Vig.

 

Your analysis is correct. I do have information from the jailchat, so I know why Citrus believed that. Outing him means revealing his role and possible ability.

Why did you vote Citrus?

What did you think of my Riley case?

 

Right now, I want to call your bluff on jailchat. A jail is a building...I suppose I could just walk on to the jail and into the building eh? It is just four walls. If there is really a jail chat and I tell the moderator that I'm walking to the jail, do you think he'd let me in jailchat? Unless of course this is a mafia chat zone instead hmmmm?

I know what outing him means, I'm just not buying that there is a jailchat. A mafia chat maybe. But not a jail one.

I voted for Citrus originally because of the idea that townies have enough issues without being misinformed on the basic rules. Adding that just seems wrong and a townie would look at the front page and/or where that was posted. But at the same time there's references to chats I haven't seen. This is why I am awaiting more information.

And about your Riley case, blab made more sense in less words in post 1021 and 1025. At some point there's when you're posting too much information and that might be a good example of it. Quite honestly, I'm disregarding most of it due to its length and having to cross reference everything is too much of a pain and would probably take a couple of hours. It might have had a lot of good information but eh.

 

LOL,

That's not possible Sis. :facepalm It started as ika, Citrus and Zennith. Zennith attempted to jail me night 1, failed bc I commuted, then they jailed me.

Unless you plan a team of five for a game of 13 players, that's ridiculous. The jailchat is real.

 

In post 184 you believed the jail to be fake as well. Sloth has also mentioned he's been in jailchat post 1011. I don't think anyone failed at anything because you wanted to be jailed, post 638. So at worst it is mafia scum with some people they want to save last to kill. At best it is a collaboration of people who the jailer believes to be town, of which I am town. Let's be honest there's at most 11-12 townies and 5 people have been in there, one of whom was confirmed mafia in Ika. We're supposed to believe that no one in there is mafia. Especially when you take that 11-12 down to 10 or 11 when I am town. So coincidentally the mafia never targets the jailed people or even tries to lure them out. The lynchings are all for people outside of it.

If mafia was trying to eliminate the safe zone, they would be trying to lynch the jailkeeper who was outed as Zennith. Something is very fishy here. I am not sure what. One of my best ways is to get inside that jail though. It'd stop me from "disappearing" because the people in jail sure don't "disappear".

ZENNITH, please jail me.


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Oh and I guess the answer to any question I don't want to answer is "jailchat" has the answer.

 

:facepalm

I didn't mean this to say the jailchat was fake. Rather, that the hypothetical scumteam in the interview now known to be done by scum!ika was a collaboration between Zennith and Citrus and ika (to the extent that he posted it).



I've been doubting Citrus but yeah it's most likely all three of us are town. Perhaps you are having reading difficulties?

What is the safe zone?

You know what, if we lynch scum, let's jailkeep you. Then, it's more likely that scum cannot kill and all we have to do is worry about who is making people "disappear" and we know that cannot be me or Zennith.

 

@Blab: Sorry, I wasn't trying to say that you were lurking, I just can't get a solid read on you.

 

Yep it was me having reading difficulties, sometimes sarcasm and literal gets confusing to me. And by the way I'm not scum. The jail to me seems like a safe zone where no one can be killed, assuming it exists. I am glad you are thinking like I am As I am not making people disappear or killing them or anything of the sort.

 

I completely agree. Not only that (and I've said it before and I'll say it again), there's no way that Townies would have on their side:

-A jailer that can keep people safe
-A double voter
-A vigilante

One of you is scum. I had a scumread on Zennith at the beginning of the game, but it's been so long, I can no longer remember why.

Unvote Blab
Vote Zennith

 

Ugh, self defense.


Why do we have this icky white scheme? I miss the green.

 

Also, all of this white is giving me a major headache.

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April Fools? It would explain the 50 shades of Draco up at the top.