The point I was making is that regardless of how many scum are left I am town, the number left won't change that.

As for times where I've allegedly slipped. I'm still not clear on what you want.
A) A time when I was town and mislynched due to a "slip"
B) A time when I was scum and slipped and was lynched.

Which are you looking for?

 

Blab, help me out here. Looking at days 1 and two alone, is Citrus/Sloth possible.
Then add in the later days.

I find Sloth's cop claim odd to say the least.

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I am looking for A. Sorry for not being clear.

Riley, if you are town, there are four scum. Obviously your role PM isn't going to change. I am deducing Riley = town means 4 scum.

With Zeit and ika dead, there is either 1 or two scum left. One scum means that player must RB you and kill someone else. That is impossible due to the rules. Hence there are four scum if you are town.

 

Vote: Moridin

Since I've tried this (almost) every day, let's see if it will stick now.

Townreads:
Sloth
Probably Blab
Probably Titus

Null:
Riley

Probable Scum:
Moridin
Citrus

Titus is still scumhunting, Citrus took a whole new turn towards shifty, and Riley is being Riley.

 

Link. This is the closest I could find via search and my memory. I was Town in this game (Empire was town, Jedi/Rebles were scum). I was lynched for lurking, a habit I've toned down. This is also early on in DLP's Mafia history so RPing wasn't quite as frowned upon.

 

Still working, but how can you be having unique abilities (which were not mention in jailchat) and be a jailed vt?

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That post is exactly what I was looking for Riley. That "may be scum" comment would have caused me to vote you.

Vote: Citrus

Just rereading and I am through post 500. Citrus has no significant interaction with Zeit or ika. Citrus pushes a rolefish and there is contradiction between his early play and this play. Citrus voted Zennith when ika was available and didn't mve his vote until late.

The game makes sense if you suppose scum deliberately aim to fool me since I was the double voter.

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Citrus and Moridin are likely unaligned pairs for the post reason I quoted.

 

Lolz ok. I'm leaving my vote on Riley and not returning at this point.

Peace out, I'll maybe check here in a few days and maybe not (not like being here at night does anything for me anyways)

 

I am going out for awhile. The play steps make sense if Citrus is scum. I am just not sure who his buddy is.

 

And Titus, I'm fairly surprised you haven't given the jailchat a thorough read because it's fairly obvious Ika and I are unaligned if you actually read it (rather than asking us in it to summarize shit over and over).

Don't be surprised when noone receives gold via last will from me, because as I said I have none. And good luck dealing with scum night kills.

 

So you're ignoring the fact practically no one else wants to vote Riley as their first choice? Refusing to scumhunt?

No vla claim?

 

That's not obvious at all.

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Ignoring my minicase?

 

I don't really give a shit. Everyone's flip flopping based off what sounds best at the time. Ex: Irid completely changing his read on me the second you do. At this point I don't really give a shit about defending myself

 

While we're talking about jailchat...

How could you feel comfortable saying you had an active ability on post 12 in the chat? What is it?

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This is our last possible mislynch here in 4 scum are present. Defending yourself is important Citrus.

 

I'll be honest, I figured the whole 'vanilla townie Citrus' thing seemed to be some sort of gambit from the two of you, including the 'why would you say that' from Citrus. I take it that's not the case? Huh. In that case, Ika's assertion that jail have unique abilities becomes a little weird.

Seven people alive. People I don't want to lynch are Citrus, Titus and Sloth, in descending order. Blab is null leaning town. Riley slightly below Iridiumstern as scum. I assume we have two left, which is not great, but I feel like they should be these two - unfortunately, not something we can narrow down with time. As Titus said, we're one mislynch away from Lylo.

Lynch Vote: Irdiumstern

Anybody have any additional information, it would be helpful right about now. Also, I'm still wondering why Mathblade gave me gold given, you know, #1398. Any insight on that front?

 

Ok, everyone but Moridin has posted, and I’ve seen him lurk. No one’s claimed roleblocker so either there isn’t one (highly unlikely given the Opening Post), or they’re scum.
We would know if they were dead Town, because their names have been self explanatory.
Therefore, Riley’s Town as far as I’m concerned.

Who hasn’t claimed yet?

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@Titus

This sorta cements, in my mind, that one of you two is scum.

If there’s a Gold-Interference System, it probably works by spending gold and targeting.
Following up, it can’t be a target on the giver (the one dying), because that’d be way too easy and OP since they usually leave gold to multiple people.
So it has to be the recipient of the gold that must be targeted. One of you targeted the other and received all of Zennith’s gold as a result. This also works with Fonti’s missing gold, the one that Rubicon should have gotten, but didn’t.

Meaning…if we lynch either of you and the flip is Town, the other has to be Scum.

er, what? Why would he take the dive if he WAS the dayvig? Is this working under the assumption it’s a once-per-game ability and no longer had a use?

I’ve been trying since D2, where I first brought it up, but I haven’t had luck finding anything solid.
He was very aggressive and diligent in Avatar, whereas in Dresden he was aggressive, but his diligence sorta felt flimsy and fluid to what was most convenient.
His recent moves remind me too much of Lee to be honest, so there’s that too. -__-
Nothing but gut-feels in the meta, but I’ll try again.

Not necessarily, if they’re scummates they could have just talked about it in scumchat and set it up to solidify Mori as town.

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@Blab

2 lynched + 3 alive according to Citrus' theory.

Did you mean a specific post or all of them?
Also, no, but in a game with 5 mafia (or even 4), that’d be a brilliant way to decisively Townfirm you, knowing you can spare a few teammates already screwed.

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@Riley
In a world where only Titus or Citrus – only one – can be scum, who would you go with? Work with me, please, I’m looking for the insights of others.

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…Ugh, this is where I wonder if I’m being strung along blindly and I’m falling for it.
Citrus as scum in the set-up of the game doesn’t make much sense – unless the two jailed players are chosen entirely at random (not likely given their 0 gold status), why would prophy place two Scum in jail?
…Damn, I wish Riley would have used his ability on either to make sure how much gold they have.
Interestingly, on D3, when asking who he should audit, he asked about Citrus claiming 0 gold.
Afterwards, Citrus told him to ignore that and audit me, which Riley ultimately did, but never replied in affirmative. And he got blocked that Night.

Ok, coming around to Citrus scum, but it still doesn’t make sense in the set-up. -__-

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...weatherman = roleblocker? Forecast stormy Night, thereby stopping Night actions? I doubt it, but who even knows at this point.

 

Mathblade was gambiting with her reads. However, I think she liked you as town. She never really hassled you much, which probably means she thought you were town. She's much harder to crack though when she's faking scumreads and whatnot.

 

If that's the case we should save a Citrus/You lynch till tomorrow and focus on either Blab or Irdium, wouldn't you say?

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^is that for me or Mori, Titus?

 

Vote Count 3.3
(4 to lynch)

Riley Poole (1): Citrus
Moridin (1): Irdiumstern
Citrus (1): Titus
Irdiumstern (1): Moridin

Abstain (3) Sloth, blab, Riley Poole

 

Sloth, how can Citrus have an active ability if he had no gold? He was open with that in the jailchat but then suddenly became a VT.

I do agree there is a gold interference mechanic or Citrus is scum. We are also missing a gold from Fonti. Citrus may have been given gold by Fonti as well.

Weatherman cannot be the rber, as Riley was blocked after Fonti's death.

Citrus cannot be beliving 5 scum alive at start and be town as no town power could counter that and he would be gamethrowing if tiwn by not defending.

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Blab's town. Irid is acting like town.

We should be lynching amongst possible roleblockers if we feel Riley is town.

Given Citrus's flipflop on PR status, he is an excellent place to start.

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What are you referring to for Moridin or you?

 

Was that before or after Ika was lynched? I'd imagine after, since you weren't in the jailchat together, but you quote posts as early as #13, which I imagine had to be as early as D1.

Following on either answer, what sort of reasoning did Citrus give for his change in claim? I find it hard to believe that you find this odd now but didn't earlier. What did he say to appease you then?

This one is working under the train of thought of: Weatherman = Roleblocker = Riley is lying.
My musings don't follow just one probability, they consider them all before sticking to the most likely.
Weatherman = Roleblocker isn't likely, but worth bringing up in case someone could give further insight in that it was.

Ird has been continuously lurking despite being pressured not to (scummy), and his only contribution is to vote for the one person he's been voting all game (Town move), but then his reads change to appease yours without any explanation. (Scummy)

This was regarding your #1515, I got confused, but now I know you were talking to Mori with that last sentence.

 

I never said 5 scum, I said 3