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Question of the Century

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by BioPlague, Sep 5, 2006.

  1. BioPlague

    BioPlague The Senate DLP Supporter

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    Who Would Win?
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  2. Missy

    Missy The Emperor Sheep's Mistress

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    Lord Vader 'cause he has the nifty Lightsaber and could so chop off Voldemorts head.
     
  3. Rainstorm

    Rainstorm Fourth Year

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    Against some of the stuff that an immortal (until Horcruxes can be found anyway) Voldemort could pull off? I'm going to have to go with Voldemort rather than Vadar on this one.
     
  4. Litha Riddle

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    I reckon it'd be a tie.

    The main reason being that Voldemort is too cunning, to want to fight another enemy. I mean he only hunted Harry down because of the prophecy, which was in his way of immortality.

    I don't know that much about Vader, but from what I remember from the first set of movies, he too was a cunning man. There is too much for them to lose, and a lot to gain by not fighting. So I reckon they're equally matched.

    Litha
     
  5. thapagan

    thapagan High Inquisitor

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    While Riddle's combat history is murky, Vader is a top Jedi master.

    I have been toying around with the concept of were Riddle would fit in the DC comics line of magic villains and heros. I think he is around the level of Felix Faust, a villain who uses his magic to summon others (demons etc) to do his fighting, or uses magical traps. Vader would be more along the lines of Black Adam or Slade Wilson, a major treat that could take on several heros at once.

    But I digress....:wall:
     
  6. DemonDream

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    I have to go with Vader here. All he would have to do would be to force choke Voldemort. After all, it is difficult to cast spells when all you can think of is that you cannot breath.
     
  7. Amerision

    Amerision Galactic Sheep Emperor DLP Supporter

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    Pfff.

    Immobulus, Avada Kedavra.

    They take what? 2 seconds? Vader wouldn't even have time to blink.

    And then there's apparition, transfiguration, etc. I can't see Vader outduelling a hundred mini stone soldiers and a wizard throwing out death curses at you.

    Imperio, Crucio, AK can't be blocked, so Vader can't repel them.

    Vader has absolutely no chance.

    Worst case scenario: Vader can repel curses. Voldemort summons water and freezes him, transfigures a dozen snakes to kill him, transfigure the lightsaber into a dildo, or cause the ground to wrap around his feet or something.

    The Force would be owned by magic. Some of you have forgotten what a real magic duel is like....
     
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  8. BioPlague

    BioPlague The Senate DLP Supporter

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    Bringing the Horcruxes up is a good point.

    Remember though, that Vader single-handedly hunted down the remaining Jedi who weren't scuttled at the Temple in the third installment. How many that is is never said but I can safely say it's over seven (since there's going to be a 100 episode tv show by George Lucas concerning the remaining jedi and the events inbetwixt III and IV).

    That's all scavanger hunt. Vader can tap into the essence of beings - the Force - and hunt them down and kill them quite effectively. So, are Voldemort's Horcruxes safe? Probably not, IMO.

    On the flipside, Voldemort is anything but human - would not being able to breath really effect him as it does Humans? Enough not to cast a counterspell?

    And besides, Voldemort can be just as wicked:

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  9. Rainstorm

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    The only reason we know that the Horcruxes are there is because we have been told, how would Vader know that they even existed, all fine being able to track them down but if he gets his arse kicked in the first fight then its useless where as Voldemort can be all but suicidal as he will come back later. Also, silent spells as well as some of the other things shown in the battle between Voldemort and Dumbledore in the battle at the DoM? Vader would just be slaughtered.

    Of course there is also the second advantage in that Magic disrupts electricity/technology, if the lightsaber and Vader's suit which keeps him alive start to short out then Vader is going to be pretty useless.

    Also,

    Voldemort: "Accio mask."
    Vader: "eaaargghh" Death rattle.
     
  10. Dark Syaoran

    Dark Syaoran No. 4 Admin

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    Bah. The picture rocks. That's all I have to say.
     
  11. Xenon

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    Me thinks it depends on the length of the fight. If Darth Vader *somehow* knew about the horocrux's and used the force to hunt them down, AND the fight lasted less then 10 seconds I belive Vader would win. Pop on some force speed and chop the now mortal bitch's head off. Can't use spell's on what you can't hit. If Vader misses, or Voldemort blocks... games over. Voldemort hands down. But honestly, is Vader going to miss? Is he?
     
  12. Dark Syaoran

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    It's possible. Apparation is your friend.
     
  13. Naga's Shadow

    Naga's Shadow Seventh Year

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    Remeber the power of evil, after all how evil is Voldemort really. He killed some wizards, big deal. Vader blew up a hole planet because his daughter wouldn't answer his questions. Vader's eviler and therefore would win. Not to mention that if magic spells apear as light they problaby can be reflected just like Vader bounced Han's blaster shot in ESB.
     
  14. Erotic Adventures of S

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    I'd say Voldemort because he has ranged attacks with all his spells and can transfigure stuff to attack Vader. Vader could only use a blaster which I am pretty sure sith hate.
     
  15. Fuegodefuerza

    Fuegodefuerza Minister of Magic

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    WTF? What does the power of evil have to do with anything? What is the power of evil, anyways? And why the hell does it benefit Darth Vader?

    Voldemort would win, no question. Even if lightsabers can deflect spells, all it would take for him to win would be a couple quick conjurations, a few distracting spells, and presto! No more Sith Lord. Kudos for both of the pictures, though.
     
  16. Vayne

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    It really depends entirely on whether they can defend against each other's attacks. I'd say that if a lightsaber can deflect/reflect spells then the advantage goes to Vader; the force is a lot harder to detect in action than magic (by which I mean there are no coloured lights flying around), making it a lot harder for Voldie to anticipate and counter Vader's attacks. I'd imagine that force choke would disorient voldie enough for Vader to get off lightning, which I'd imagine would be a similar level of pain to the cruciatus, making it very unlikely that Voldie will be able to concentrate enough to cast anything back.

    That said, I'm assuming this is to the death in a single fight. Anything more than that and the fact that Voldie is effectively immortal owing to horcruxes means he's pretty much guaranteed to win; he just needs to get lucky once, whereas Vader needs to beat Voldie every time he gets resurrected until after all the horcruxes and Voldie himself are destroyed.

    Bear in mind though that Vader's not Star Wars' 'big bad'. If you pitted Voldie vs the Emperor my money's on Palpatine, since he not only has the advantages Vader has in a single fight, he also has a better method of returning from the dead than Voldie (His spirit/soul automatically transfers to a clone of himself on death, with none of that icky flesh, blood and bone business).
     
  17. Xenon

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    Now that I have meditated farther on the matter, it would have to be whoever got the High Ground™. As everyone knows, Darth Vader can't win if you have the High Ground™. Although, one would think this would theoretically work in reverse, it is mearly conjecture at this point, having not been tested. The affairs of wizards are strange things indeed.
     
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  18. SushiZ

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    VOldemort hands down would win. Magic is just more powerfull than anything vader could pull off.
     
  19. the-caitiff

    the-caitiff Death Eater

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    I'll say Volde wins the initial confrontation against Vader but Sidius kicks his ass in the end. You might kill one or two Palapatine clones, but after a while he will learn your pathetic tricks. Not to mention that the whole coming back to life bit will shock the hell out of Volde in round 2.
     
  20. Niffler Lord

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    I go with Vader. Partly because I'm a Star Wars nut more than a HP nut.

    While I agree that the force is more limited then magic it is nothing to scoff at, especially at the hand of a Master. It is possible that Vader could use the force to stop any spells thrown at him or that a light saber, being a weapon of pure energy, can divert a lot of incomming spells.

    Transfigure the light saber into a dildo? Hah. Use Force Throw to fling Voldie back (breaking a few bones in the process) and then Force Speed to rush to the falling body and stab it through the heart with the dildo. Besides you have to hit the damn handle to transfigure it and thats a pretty small target area considering that its in Vaders hands. If it were that simple then it would be just as easy to transfigure wands from the hands of wizards.

    You also forgot thing like Force Summons that could remove the wand from Voldies hands or the whole choke from a distance thing.

    So Voldie's got Horcruxes. Just means Vaders got more time to prepare to kill him again.

    Vader for the win.
     
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