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AYAW #2 - Return to Basics

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Riley, May 4, 2014.

  1. Maiden

    Maiden Muggle

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    While I'm working on this wall, does anyone have any questions for me? A lot of you are quick to accuse me as scum, but no one seems to actually be interested in asking me anything.
     
  2. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    I've never done a rainbow before.

    Snowtown

    ???

    ika
    Rubicon
    Citrus
    Dermon
    Atum
    MathBlade
    LochNess
    TerRaine
    Maiden


    Lyrium
    Sloth


    ???

    Burkion


    Do you see how much I hate my brain. If you ask me a question about the colors you will get gurgling as a response.

    @Dermon: I copy/pasted the names from your post when I did my rainbow and I noticed you missed LochNess.
     
  3. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    The stuff i ahve pointed out?

    1)the bad reaction to me slotting her white (which ment absolutly nothing)
    2)being highly self-aware (comes back to 1)
    3)lurking (but sevral have done that)
    4) post 406*
    5) constant "im working on it"
    6) shit reads at 423 (look how many nulls)
    7) survivalism plays
    8) post 430**

    *post 406: its straighfoward thinking, yes?
    now lets divulge why this is "technacly" the wrong answer (or bad)
    - you have 2 scums: fact
    - you have a seer: fact

    case: scums (usal) default thinking is to kill a pr first and think about player later, however an optimal scum would eliminate a better player first (we have no healing roles in this so thats out of equations)

    if in the event one of the players gets outed by seer, you bus and then take out seer and try to manipulate from there. If you take out seer n1 you are at risk of dealing with potential better players who can out you by scum hunting.

    Come down to the basic format, a seer is another player. In a battle of seer vs a better player. Optimal play is take out the better player if you can afford it. A scum player does not think that and just goes with basic thinking of kill pr first worry about players later.

    Much like the question lyrim asked: "how many wolfs"

    towns are less inclined to retain that it was said to be 2 becasue balence dictate 3. iirc: madien just went to setup and copied or said "it was answered"

    **post 430:

    this is more of rehash of cirtus, but look at all those nulls, it basicly allowing her to move whoever she wants to where as needed to agree with majority. In fact i did it in a scum game i was in

    http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=5753699#p5753699

    her post is almost like a carbon copy of what i did when i was scum
     
  4. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Snowvon is so town I reach for my sunglasses just to read his posts.
     
  5. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    Question: why didnt you put vote before all the yellow names?

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    also snow, can i be red for love?
     
  6. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    ...

    Sorry, I'm having trouble getting the grammar of your question. One more time please.

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    For me green is love.
     
  7. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Post 1: Check-in, states 2 scum pre-reroll (prior knowledge of scum team size)
    Post 2: States will post more once caught up
    Post 3: Answers public questions.
    Post 4: Awareness of Ika's readwall with white for her.
    Post 5: States has to leave due to exams. Also defends LochNess in a way no other player has (perspective wise)
    Post 6: Question
    Post 7: Safe answer about werewolf night possibilities for death
    Post 8: Votes Rubicon
    Post 9: States working on readwall
    Post 10: Question
    Post 11: Response to Ika
    Post 12: States busy due to school

    --------------------------------

    Post 13: "I'm reading through posts, trying to see if anything jumps out at me, constructing a wall, and asking questions that are specifically pinging out at me."

    Post 13.b: Readwall:

    A lot of null reads, which she has done historically. The entire point of a readwall is to share your views while making solid stances. This doesn't really cut it, especially because logic for some of the players does not match up with what I saw at all. What really puts me off about it though, is the fact that I call out your read on me and you retract it. It makes me call into question your entire readwall. Was it manufactured? Because now there's evidence to say it was.

    Post 14: Lack of confidence in read on me (see 13.b). Promises a big post if it looks like she'll be lynched (which caused people to switch to town reads on Sloth? Self awareness/trying to look towny?). Asking Ika about read on me. Calling Sloth out for not posting as often as she is used to.

    Additionally, I normally take RL stuff when someone said it, but then why your second post? Why say you'll be around?

    Overall lack of scumhunting - biggest post (wallread etc.) comes after I ping you as scum.

    Maiden, are you town? Who should be lynched instead of you, if you are? Convince me, because your posts so far haven't done so.

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    Maiden, see my post before writing/posting your wall please
     
  8. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Tell me why. Whisper into my ear how townie I am. I want you to make me feel like I'm the only townie in town.
     
  9. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    @Snowvon

    Is that rainbow wall in any sort of order inside each color group?
     
  10. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Not in particular.
     
  11. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    this is how you do it snow, you vote everyone in yellow and screw around witht he host. im mass histeria

    also can i be collored red yellow and blue for MERICA with a purple !
     
  12. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    Cruiser? "A large and fast military ship" or "a boat that is used for pleasure." I guess I must be used to getting away with it because I'm not sure what I'm getting away with.

    If it's the sheeping you're talking about then yes because deep thinking\logic is not my thing so I rely on instinct or when feeling biased or emotionally hyperactive then baa baa baa.

    My instincts sometimes lead to innocents being killed but it can still be funny. As long as we're not at LYLO. For example, ika dying would be hilarious regardless of his alignment.

    Snowvon, why align me and Sloth? If you're town, you're heart won't be sore. If you're scum something else will be sore. ;)

    Also your rainbow makes me sad. Why? I mean is Snowtown where all the purple bouncy clouds live? What kind of alternate reality\parallel universe came into existence in the making of that rainbow?

    P.S. Orange is in my "Less favored colors" list. I like this Lyrium.

    Dermon, remind me do you have a mentor? Also yay a pretty rainbow that's all organized nicely.

    Maiden, you want questions. I want answers.

    Your play before re-roll and post re-roll doesn't show any vast difference which is what is throwing me off. Can you show\explain how your play has changed since then?

    I mean you can probably, for example, see the difference in my own play.
     
  13. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    @ika: I like the sound of that.

    Also no I will not color your name for you.

    ((ika!))
     
  14. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    note to self: if ever die at night, accuse lyrim if shes not obvi-town

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    :awesome

    this will now be my sig

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    /tenchars?
     
  15. Lyrium

    Lyrium Sent Back to India

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    ika, how will you accuse me, do you mean post death?

    The rare times I draw scum on IRC, and don't flail and burn in two seconds by just opening my mouth, I always NK people I don't know or lurkers first. It keeps the game fun.

    Sometimes I target fonti but that's because she's dangerous and I'm in awe of her.
     
  16. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    Guys I can understand that you need to post town/scum reads in colors but can you please refrain from random posting of colors? It hurts my eyes.
     
  17. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    can you contibute somethign besides fluff then?

    @lyrim

    i will figure out something.
     
  18. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    I don't know how to put it into words. You're a floater. You float around the thread a lot and it feels like lurking but more pleasant. People like to dismiss it like "oh there's Lyrium again, bouncing along the flower bed, she's totes town" and it'd be really easy for you to get away with that as scum. IRC has made me wary of you.

    Fair enough. Logic doesn't appear to be my thing either so it'd be silly to point a finger at you for sheeping.

    For a minute, yes, then I'd just be sad.

    ooooh wink wink

    Maybe you can be part of Snowtown someday soon.

    Noted <3

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    I am all over it.

    ((ahhhh it's in your sig i'm exploding))

    Shh. You're great scum in IRC.

    And another quote for my sig.
     
  19. Maiden

    Maiden Muggle

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    I have yet to be upgraded to a plus. I resent that. xD
     
  20. Vaimes

    Vaimes Fifth Year

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    Filthy lies.
     
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