titus, can you talk with me or give me something to speculate or banter about. it might help. While i still dont entirly trust you, im willing to see how things work out for now.

but really i think theres more to the kill/

SNOWVON GET THE FUCK IN HERE AND GIVE FUCKING COMMENTS.

 

I'll definitely look there to see, along with any other suggestions. Prophy as a mentor is different. I had Prophy as a mentor on another site. He's very hands offish as a mentor.

I know you like gambits, just like you know I'll voice my disagreement. However, if you intend to stick with this path, you need to be calmer when they blow up because that WILL happen.

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Start with Rubicon and read backwards. He votes you despite feeling someone else scumslipped. That makes no sense. His awakening occurs just when Mathblade votes you. That makes no sense.

Yesterday, his actions after my arrival seemed to be more about setting up possible trains than actually scumhunting.

So I'm asking you whether something appears "emotionally off" considering you tend to do that sort of thing.

I'm asking you to go all insane but you obviously can't know if the teacher is town.

 

no i had a beer (now that im 21 recently), the point is im fuckign pissed im being wagoned over shit reasoning.

heres some info to take in titus:

2 wolfs
1 seer
rest villagers

now take this from logic standpoint:
would it be optimal play (or even remotly logical) to gambit that early on claimg seer as wolf just to kill it the next night? or out of chance kill it?

I WANT EVERYONE TO ASK THEMSELFS THAT QUESTION RIGHT NOW!

if you were a wolf, would you risk everything on a gambit as huge as that on day 1?

 

Eh, if you were to flip town then I assume that more attention would be given to your reads, which reminds me to go check Maiden's again. You've listed Snowvon and Citrus as your scumspects; do you think they're a team? If not, who else stands out to you?

I'm not sure on a potential wolf buddy for you. You've driven a lot of the conversation thus far, and there's too much interaction for me to reasonably limit the number of suspects there. I'll be sure to look back through things though.

 

Ika, why are you soft deflecting towards me? Do you think I'm scum because I didn't believe you to be the seer? Because it was pretty fucking obvious.

 

Oh one other thing, we should also look and see who would kill Lyrium provided scum hadn't discovered she was the seer.

 

so basicly you want me to iso rubi?

 

Also, what if your scum buddy wanted lyrium killed? Werewolves had no communication until night start

 

This looks like newb town or extremely coached scum. Given Atum's newb status, I doubt he could fake the if then else type pattern. Of course, there is the chance he thinks like me. If so, I should be able to socratic with Atum and find out.

For starts Atum, what do you think is important from the early days and why, besides the Maiden wagon?

 

do you have any other comments besides being passive right the fuck now? like about the kill? like why you are not fuckign voting me for my stupidass gambit?

honestly thats quite a defensive remark you are making right now. you arent even voting me, you seem to be aware im town and are just letting me blow up

 

Yes and looking for the emotional tells. You know I'm not as focused on that.

Oh and congrats on turning 21... why didn't you tell me? I woulda bought you a beer.

 

heres what i think, and you can talk with titus as well b/c she is better at translating me at times:

i have played with cirtus enough that he would be able to basicly devine me for the most part. him saying "im obviously not seer" and then trying to deter us wifoming it up. is quite intresting in itself.

snow feels off from game one, but if titus is town, she will work with me on helpign sort everyone out as well. if shes scum, well i will figure it soon enough.

odds are one scum already wagoned me in this in attempt to try to hide themselfs.

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ill fill you in on that on skype or elsewhere (irc maybe?) right now focus is game

 

I'm stuck somewhere with no wifi so I must phone post, just until tomorrow afternoon.

I'll fight you tomorrow ika, but if there's anything you want to ask immediately please do. Might be sleeping soon actually.

 

snow: look at 247 then 250

theres something off, im iso rubi right now and some of his post just feel odd, not emotionaly wise but context wise.

titus read rubi/cirtus interactions, scum interactions?

same with any other player whos here, something just feels off now after just glancing though some of their posts

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the 247 where you say weird dream about that then rubi agreeing just rubs me the wrong way.

 

Not sure I'm understanding the question right but if I am then here you go.

Important stuff early on: Burkion's RL emergency; ika tunnelling Snowvon early on before shifting to Maiden; the vote spread that still existed a few hours before Day end; the most commonly listed suspects (Snow, Maiden, ika, Sloth, Math, Citrus), who called attention to them and who agreed; someone pointing out Lyrium's behaviour as being that of a "cruiser" IIRC and the intermittent follow-up; Maiden's long-awaited readwall; and LochNess's replacement.

There's more stuff I'm forgetting, like people tunnelling Mathblade, but since most of my analysis relies on reviewing content I'll let this do for now and I can always revisit later if you want. Basically, what's important to me is what ends up leading the overall dialogue in new directions and what seems to connect suspiciously to later events.

@ika: Did you ever finish addressing your suspicion that the game was still broken?

 

"That was no dream" isn't necessarily an agreement with anything I said.

I literally had a dream about a person and I had a feeling it was one of you three. The end.

 

Hey Ika. Maybe I'm being quiet for a reason. What I don't get right now is why are you deflecting blame towards me so much.

You kept stating yesterday "oh you can all lynch me D2 if Maiden is town, all will be revealed don't worry" yet now you are getting very self righteous

Did you really think I was seer?

These 2 points are the only places where I'm confused about your behavior. Otherwise, I have a solid read on you

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These 3 points*

 

it was discussed in QT with host. If host wants to diclose it he can otherwise im failry confident in sevral things.

in fact now that you mentioned it and comparing it to how i was lookign though players

vote cirtus

as we have atm is villagers and WW, cirtus seems too confident in reading me atm.

In fact hes not even trying to derail my train, hes just sidelining it and is playing passivly, and the fact you are "hidiing something"?

ya right, unless if you calim to be a backup seer (which does not exist) i want to see you flip.

how about this: who are your scumspects and why?

what about rubi? whats your read on him? i am already assuming one scum is in my wagon and one is off my wagon.

and comparing the madien wagon, i am assuming one was an early scum voter. which would be you.

lets look at maidens wagon as well, you voted early on, and just left it there for most part. after that everyone else went at maiden, not once did you even come on and contibute.

FUCKIGN CONTIBUTE MORE OR BE FUCKING LYNCHED

theres soemthing about ppl sloting snowvon town even though he seems diffrent that makes me ponder

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what are they? well actualy before that what are you reading me as if you so "confident" in it. If you are saying scum, i am wondering where your fucking vote is.

if its town i want to hear some nice ass reasoning besides meta and shit

 

ika stop it. Citrus is probably town. Stick with Rubicon/Snowvon... much better wagons. I can't really find anything wrong with Citrus's play. Attacking the people defending you is not likely to get you anywhere.

 

vote rubicon

fine, something about cirtus seems off though.

think about it, scum white-knighting possibility? so far ciruts has been kinda passive on my wagon for most part and not really trying to derail it.

if im going to be wagoned and lynch the least im going to do is press everyone far as possible to get shit done