Titus: Could you help me understand why you said you thought ika was the Seer, and said you wouldn't have proposed your plan if you thought scum already knew the Seer? It looks like a direct contradiction to me, so I'd like you to explain.

Er no it ended a couple minutes later when I posted my reply to her and Citrus. I don't get what you're suggesting here. What do you think her vote had to do with mine?

You're chainsaw defending against my pressure on TerRaine though, so noted.

Explain this one as well.

I think the bigger question is whether YOU would. It's true that it's dangerous but on the other hand you can always say 'well it was a gambit to get night killed'.

I think a scum team comprised of only newer players would probably have struck at one of the stronger and more active players like me, Sloth, you, ika, Citrus etc.

I probably meant that it wasn't a dream it was all of us together in the scum QT.

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ika: What bothers me about you thinking Citrus was Seer is that Citrus was Seer last round and you know that. Why would you think he was the same this time? Especially w/ all that stuff about his scumtells.

I'm going to want to know what this reason is.

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Why specifically is Citrus probably town?

 

no we find cirtus reason now, also quite being passive, all i see is nitpickyness.

 

I'm open to you explaining what seems different about him. Go for it.

 

rubi im gonna have a but load of shit for you to answer after im done iosing you, hope you are ready to be hammered hard

 

What do you think of Titus saying he's 'probably town' despite apparently not having read the entire game?

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Come at me bro

 

You figure that out

No im not fuckign answering that, you tell me what you fuckign think first, im already being fuckign wagoned by your fuccking ass, you tell me what you think first.

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but i agree, titus expalin the cirtus!town read you have

 

I think it's bullshit.

 

now expand on why.

 

And I mean, I've explained why I think Snow is town and responded to most/all of what people are saying about him, but I'm open to the idea I'm missing something. If you've noticed differences in his play let me know what they are so I can take another look.

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If she has a good reason for thinking so, okay, but at the moment it looks made up considering she hasn't read everything.

 

im not doing fuckign work for you. know what fuck this.

heres what i think:

if rubi is town, look at titus/cirtus

if rubi is scum, look at cirtus next.

im too pissed at ppl here to even give jack, if i come back and im at l-1 expect a hammer.

if someone wants me to do something leave questions or something of importance for me.

and seriously, ask yourself this fuckign question:

would you as a wolf in a towndsided game, risk this fucking much on gambits?

i have asked that sevral fuckign times, i want everyone to answer that shit. I already know sevral have but unless if someone else can have some legit reason for wagoning me besides me "seer gambit" you have the most illogical thinking.

also if rubi live to day 4 he should be lynched b/c he said he expects to die by n3. if he live past that i will take it as a scum claim

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Obviously she has read? dont fuckign try to misrep you ass. now what were you saying?

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titus: do me a favor and ask a bunch of questions for me to answer for when i come back.

it will at least give me something to do.

 

I colored it in red for you Ika.

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Shit like this is garbage because if he's town you'd cost us the game

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How did I get ninja'd by >4 posts??

 

Rubi, question: why are you trying to make me doubt titus atm. Many of your questions are asking for reasons but seem to have no end results, then you com asking me about titus as if you are tying to make me doubt her.

CIRTUS ANSWER THE FUCKIGN QUESTIONS ASKED OR I WILL FUCKING TAKE IT AS A FUCKIGN SCUM CLAIM

 

Okay... I'm not trying to piss you off by voting you, so I'll just explain my thought process here. The wagon is because you did something (arguably) anti-town which may have resulted in the Seer's death and I'm pressuring you to see how you and others will react. I don't know if you're scum for it. The wagon is how I'm trying to find out.

You think Snowvon is scummy and I don't. We talked on IRC a few days ago and you said you were open to talking to people about disagreements as long as they approached you reasonably and didn't just assume they were right and you were wrong. I'm making an effort to do that.

If you think Snowvon is scum, you should be able to explain why, right? You want people to ask you questions and give you something to do, right? This is a good place to start.

Probably not. It wouldn't be a good plan. That doesn't necessarily mean you didn't do it.

I'm talking about this sentence from #829: "We already have half the votes required to lynch and I haven't even gotten through my entire read through of the game to this point."

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I'm trying to understand you both. When I play mafia, doubt and suspicion is where I start from and I only move away from that when I see a good reason to.

 

@Titus

Near the end of Day 1, I was online chatting with Rubicon for over an hour. The fact that he was continuing to engage with me and analyze the day thread caused me to adjust him from "null leaning scum" to "slight town" for the time being. Do you agree with this at all? Or if you haven't read that part yet, could you read it and give me your opinion/thoughts?

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@Titus (or anyone that wants to comment on this post series)

Posts #581 - #598

 

Going to bed in a few minutes.

In the morning I'll meta-dive games w/ both ika and Titus and see what I can deduce about their interactions.

 

Why?

There's a ton of other players in this game, many of which haven't even shown up for day yet.

@Everyone

I'm still waiting/looking for people to answer their opinion on the night kill

Looking through Lyrium's posts, I could buy she were seer from reading through. However, I feel it's a bit contrived to guess she was the seer at least to me - either the scum were going for a fairly solid town read or else they were worried about her reads. I already looked through her later-day posts and don't see anything solid. She did kind of skim the end of the day

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I'll answer tomorrow

 

read on cirtus, now. Im keeping an eye on him b/c theres something still off about him. Compare game 1 and game 2, he said he delibertly tried to emulate his scum game, do you see similarities? do you see diffrences? if so, explain them, if not explain why not.

As of now cirtus is continuing to go up my radar. im gonna iso him next and look.

 

ika and Titus are two of my null/scummy reads and I'm curious whether they could both be scum and also how much I should trust their ability to read each other.

By the way: Please don't let ika anywhere near L-1 while I'm sleeping. Thank you.

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This was @Citrus

 

vote cirtus

Its already tommorw where i am so you can answer them now. Im gonna keep this shit here untill you answer them.

rubi i recomend you do same, scums will always try to stall out answering

 

Go ahead and read my posts, I'm not at all afraid of that.