Snowvon and ika, I don't like them as a team. Noob scum Von wouldn't be fast to jump on ika's train if they were scum together without daychat.

 

knwo what im going to pull a page from font.

look back and see how many times rubi mentions cirtus and vice versa anyone see anything odd?

 

PHP:

The setup says no daychat.

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And there was no pregame on the reroll...

 

anyway, i have given my scumspects titus, dermon plz l-1 me so i can end this shit

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Do you have host confrimation on that? or are you merly specing?

unless if you have host confrimation its something that should be looked into

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anyway dont expect anything else from me.

also look at B&T where i was outed scum, how did i act? I had one person left, does anyone else see this or am i just spewing nonsene now?

 

Ika, you have the suspects but you are not scumhunting. Forget defending yourself.

Also I hear your request but you know I don't vote my townreads ika.

 

I have, think about the setup.

2 wolfs, 13 players.

scums are going to try to be middle-grounds, not being overly town, but also not being overly hiding.

cirtus is doing just that, and gets defensifve when i (or anyone) calls him scum or just kind ayells at me. last fm (that finished recently) he did same exact thing as scum. titus go to homestie and look at fm day 2 and look at greenland (cirtus) and china (me) and how he acted towards me. now tell me how similar it is.

im not scum hunting outside of that. you have rubi pegged. I have cirtus pegged.

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rubi has been rather passive and looking back seems to have an air of lack of willing to do stuff and is just coasting and letting everyone look into each other. all he does is ask questions with no real merit or anything. He also donest seem to care if his questions get exactly answered or not.

cirtus has just been lurk and seems annoyed (or apathtic) for scums b/c game is so town-favored, every time someone calls him scum he jsut goes "well screw you" without any actual scum hunting or anything. Hes also been passive and then goign agro at people who come at him.

in this setup, scums want to be middle-grounds, not attentoin grabers, and not overly lurky.

they fit the case.

titus: im done with this game and you know that, if no ones oing to fucking listen then i might as well do nothing.

I have basicly given everything i have so everyone can scum hunt outside of me for once

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1. Burkion - rli
2. TerRaine - dont see ill intention
3. Sloth - too attention grabby for scum
4. Citrus - scummy mcfuck
5. Atum - too lock onto me to be scum, you seriously need to learn
6. Maiden - town
7. Ika - pissed off
8. Lyrium -seer
9. Rubicon - goign with titus on this and after rereading
10. MathBlade - too dense to be scum
11. titus - it titus...
12. Snowvon - seems passive, but still had his fluff
13. Dermon - could be outliar

 

Howdy everyone I'm back online for an hour or two, hopefully more. Anything critical in the last four pages I need to get?

If no one speaks up I'll probably be reading the thread for about 30 minutes for analysis and posting general thoughts.

 

ya, vote cirtus/rubi after me

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FYI im prob not even chacking back in.

 

ActuallyI don't recall ever calling Lyr Null. Lyr was one of my higher town reads towards end of Day. Where did I say Null?

And yes...I should have gone into my reads more at Day start. Frankly I intended to and just decided screw it because I wasn't in the mindset to wade through pages of FUCK THIS FUCK THAT GET YOUR FUCKING HEAD OUT OF YOUR FUCKING ASS to get to the postings after the past few days I had.

But yes. The Town flip on Maiden isn't the biggest shock of the day for me. As I said I only had a slight lean on her and Ika was my top choice. Mislynch is better than no lynch and all that. The Lyr NK made sense given no one seemed to assume scum and Scum wouldn't risk taking out any other town that people had as scum leans protecting them. I honestly think the Seer kill was a lucky shot on the scum side.

I'm still pretty set in my Ika read as scum for reasons already stated. You claim your responses are pure emotion driven but you slip in and out very easily hiding your points in between tantrums. Seems too planned out...like your playing a part which says scum to me.

However I'm not sure lynching Ika is going to get us anywhere at this point. On the off chance everyone is wrong and he flips Town...we really don't get reads on anyone else I feel like. Feel free to tell me why I'm wrong on this. I think we should be tunneling someone else and pressing them if were all so certain on ika. Save a certain vote for an endgame move. Leaning towards Math but I also need to go back and do a reread of everything to confirm it.

Not going to be able to post at all tonight fair warning. RL beckons.

Wanna see this myself...

 

@Titus: Why have you not hammered ika yet? This seems like a big neon warning flag. Most other players realizing where the lynch is heading after trying to deter it will admit that is where the lynch will be and hammer (e.g. Sloth last day) If you honestly believe he is town then you should be voting for him, picking up some town cred and moving on. I don't think you believe this though because of post:

Yet that was your main hypothesis for lynching me when we played together last and you were scum as the serial killer. I was doing a gambit called the derp nuke and low and behold you were trying to lynch me.

I'm really having trouble getting your actions to add up. What about ika's play is stopping you from earning town cred with everyone and lynching him for anti town? Even if he turns town (which I am very much doubting) his play is so destructive towards the town and is not helping of new players that it's the best play to lynch him no matter what at this point. Playing a gambit with this many new players is a recipe for disaster for town as town may not understand what he is doing. The best play IMHO is the simple one of scum hunt and ika just isn't doing that right now. You even said it yourself at

https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?p=722785#post722785

We need town that scumhunts. Period. Lurkers are always my first play because they don't scum hunt and having scum know that is my play means they have to come up or they will be targeted unless an extremely scummy play comes out. This gives town more evidence and is very pro town.

Even your explanation of how the system you suggested for the seer wouldn't work because it assumes self awareness.

This hypo is utterly ridiculous. It requires almost everyone to false claim seer which is A) stupid (Citrus explained why before) and B) requires town to lie which is a very ANTI town move and proscum. And assuming that your hypo took place and Rubicon flipped seer. He wouldn't give us the results as the seer has to post them the next day. Mod doesn't announce "Player X is town!!!" All it does confirm is reads to go off of. I also believe you said it best in some of the follow ups is that town should never ever lie or do something funky, especially in the follow up of the game we played. Yet you are continually protecting ika when he is doing something "funky" or "anti town".

Your defense of ika, even if you believe he is town (which I think you're scum trying to fake it) is mind boggling to me.

I really really want to give you the benefit of the doubt because you came into the game late, but it is very hard right now. Please do something townie anything...A read wall, some indepth scum hunting (most posts are defend ika/poke at Rubicon) please. You are my top two suspect and my gut is screaming at me to give you this chance, please do something to help town.

@ika: I agree I made some mistakes before, but please don't insult me when I do. It sends the wrong message to new players. I accept you think that I am following bad logic, or you can say my play is illogical but please don't insult my social intelligence. I will even state outright that it's probably less than most people's but I ask that you rephrase it nicer in the future. Please help us by scum hunting and get me in the right direction other than just Rubicon and scum...Help me and town to get it right.

@Sloth: Sorry for not trusting you on the Maiden is town bit...:/ You and Rubi are still my top two town reads right now.

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Clarify please. Leaning Math town or math scum or math endgame. I am not following your pronoun usage.

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Correction @ika: Other than Citrus *sigh* Fuck my stream of consciousness

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@Ika: Yes confirmed no daychat

https://forums.darklordpotter.net/member.php?u=3958

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https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showthread.php?p=717535&highlight=daychat#post717535

Ahhh much better.

 

Scum as said before Math

 

Sorry I struggle with pronouns/implied context at times so I must ask additional questions. Thanks for clarifying.

We do gain a lot even if Ika doesn't post substantial reads. For a traditional player who hasn't given reads it would be hard, but Ika on the other hand has been very much working against finding scum and just been yelling FBombs or generally taking a verbal flamethrower everywhere. The more we can keep this calm and scum hunt and find scum the better. So if Ika filps town which my heart of hearts doubts we gain a more constructive, positive environment to find scum in. And I welcome you to reread the thread. You can ask me anything you want as I'm not scum. If on the off chance that Ika flips town and the town decides I'm next, ya'll will have a really large read wall as a present. Anything for town's better good is my motto and I'm sticking to it.

 

Sis are you seriously suggesting I should vote my townread for towncred? You are suggesting I should be anti-town for my own personal benefit, but you're wanting to lynch ika for being anti-town.

Also, ika wasn't insulting your social intelligence. He means dense as stubbornish. And to that point he's wrong as well.

You are deliberately obfuscating trying to confuse Sloth sis. Under my plan, seer results are known if and when the seer dies. It's not antitown as the seer hypos are just that hypos. Antitown means something thst works against the tiwns interests. No lies means no antitown. They aren't meant to be anslyzed. You don't struggle with hypotheticals.

You are on name common to both major bad wagons, provided ika is town.


As for the meta, you may gambit but you calculate gambits. As such, you should be aware of others gambiting. Yet you open without thinkinh of that possibility.

 

Titus, why are you ignoring me?

 

Suppose Rubicon is scum, please rank jis likely budfies with reasons.

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What post did I miss?

 

Most of #861.

 

Absolutely Titus. You should do what is best for town and that earns town cred. Stop confusing the issue with it being your "town read". A no lynch is worse than lynching a townie.

And your hypo is wrong for every game I've played a seer/cop in. The mod doesn't confirm anyone with it. Ever. You've played more than enough games of mafia probably hundreds or at least 10s more than me to know that doesn't happen.

On the Sloth point I think you may need to go take a break I don't even know how to begin to respond to that because I don't know what you are thinking...I'm not making any arguments to deceive or confuse or alter anyone's thoughts. I'm letting my words stand up for themselves and if they do and town acts correctly great. When your hypos are so off the wall and useless and replace valid scum hunting it is suspicious. And hypos are absolutely meant to be analyzed. Unless you want us to take your word for them without question and do it? That IMO is a silly play. I didn't say I struggled with hypotheticals. I said I struggle with pronouns/implied context, different things.

I am aware of the possibility of others gambiting, but I don't think this is. He explicitly went against his word of being okay to lynch the next day and then went to staunchly defending himself.

Now that being said you aren't really scum hunting just defending yourself. I'm going to give you three hours to do a read wall while I'm playing Skyrim. Since you said you were almost done it shouldn't be a problem. If you need more time post before those three hours with a reasonable time. I would be looking forward to seeing your thoughts that way if Ika flips town then yours and his can be combined because right now you look very much aligned.

 

Just opened the thread

889:

I think you misread my post sloth. I said it would be bad town play to wait til the last second to claim Seer. After that other game, I don't think we'd be able to move the lynch with less than 30 minutes. I never said she deserves a modkilled, I'm saying I would think she were far claiming as scum in that scenario because the alternative is bad town play.

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And TerRaine is female, acknowledged and noted (default Internet male sorry lol)

 

First, I didn't know ika was seer. I could ruin his gambit by saying he likes to gambit but that hurts worse. Rather playing as if it was true and coming up with a plan for seer innocent results to be conftown supposing a seer who lives through the night is a good plsn as it helps the seer live longer.

You weren't ready to vote a scumslipped player in your eyes but you vote ika immediately after a wagon...bullshit. That tells me you are lying town or lying scum.

Also, saying you should have voted TerRaine is not a defense of TerRaine.

Your posts are about setting up trains. You posted before Maiden was flipped assuming she was town and doing associations. You posted today setting up TerRaine. Now you're pushing ika but not really giving much beyond the claim.

Your NK suggestion doesn't even answer my point, but encourages me to look at scum newbies. Given the skill in mislynching, I doubt double newbie. Second, my point was supposing Lyrium was killed for being threatening to scum, who do we look at?


Citrus is probably town bc he's not pushing to dominate (Dresden) but looking methodically. Scum Citrus would probably push dead ika more.

 

The fuck is wrong with you? I asked and confirmed no say chat Pre reroll. There was no time for a pregame because we went straight into game 2