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AYAW #2 - Return to Basics

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Riley, May 4, 2014.

  1. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    And what's worse is we are 6 hours until no lynch and hardly anyone is online. :( This is what I was afraid of and why I wanted Ika lynched early....This is not good.
     
  2. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    So name the names that make you uncomfortable rubicon

    Why are you preemptively distancing yourself from all the potential lynches today?
     
  3. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    I'm bothered that all my scum-reads are either not voting or voting vanity wagons.

    Why are you so focused on ika's vote on you?
     
  4. Atum

    Atum DA Member DLP Supporter

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    @Titus: Do you have a reason for hopping on the TerRaine wagon besides what you said in #963? Because while I agree that those were bad answers the only thing that really bothered me was her chiming in 7 minutes into the start of the new day to post something useless.

    @Dermon: Same question, excluding your reasoning from #961. You had her down as a slight scum read D1, but now you're leading the wagon there.

    @Rubicon: What's a vanity wagon?
     
  5. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    cirtus, why are you so worried about my vote on you vs everyone else?

    atum: give me a second theres something i noticed that contridtic the current vote count that cirtus has

    im also for teirrain after looking it over

    I just got home from work

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    and cirtus, no i dont know your town, what makes you think that?
     
  6. Titus

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    I did a read wall. It wasn't in the manner you cared for, Your Highness. I am soooo sorry for that. This is the obligatory sarcasm post. Moving on.

    This is the most extensive readwall you are getting. Most of it rehashes what I have already said, but I have no problem being bound to my opinions. Also, you failed my reaction test as you didn't notice what was missing. Whatever I put, it wasn't enough of a readwall. My read wall matched the depth of others. Yet you don't bitch at then.

    I am town. Don't think this needs explanation.

    Ika's town. He was doing his own classic gambits and not taking easy positions. If he was scum, hewoild push my scumreads.

    Citrus is probably town. If he is scum, he would have voted ika when ika was antagonizing him. The only way I like Citrus scum is if ika is also scum. Plus, hid demeanor doesn't match his scum game.

    Atum's town. His thought process is transparent and logical. He's cautious but not afraid to be associated with his decisions.

    Snowvon is likely town. I am seeing more effort from him here, which makes town Snow more likely.

    Sloth and Dermon are both lean town. They appear town in most respects but don't give me that gut feeling they are town. It just doesn't feel right to say they are.

    Mathblade's artificial denseness, strange standards and interpreting me saying she appeared melodramatic is bad. If town, she has a stranfe confbias.

    TerRaine's lack of content, total ignorance of Rubicon's slip accusation and sudden flip on ika make me very uncomfortable with TerRaine. As a whole Rubicon's interactions with TerTraine make me feel uneasy.

    Rubicon's votes and arguments seem wholly divorced from catching scum. His recent switch off of ika, refusing to vote someone who he felt gave a reliable scumslip. He seems to be going through the motions and is much different than Brass Tax Rubicon.



    Now to go see what I might have missed in my hurry this morning.

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    Oh who are your reads and why are they vanity wagons. If you join us on TerRaine then she has three. So what counts as a vanity wagon? One on scum?

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    Vote with me then. I ain't voting Citrus.
     
  7. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    @Atum: Vanity wagon = wagon for sake of appearances. No real/valid belief in that person being scum and/or no hope of actually lynching the person.

    @ika/Titus: I see your posts just waiting til you're done before I respond.
     
  8. Titus

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    TerRaine had low content day 1. She should have reacted to Rubicon accusing her of scumdlipping. When I call her on that, she attacks me. Rubicon has fishy interaction there. She flip flopped on lynching ika but isn't voting.

    I like a Rubicon TerRaine team. I like Rubicon more but he won't be lynched today.
     
  9. ika

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    what went from this to this

    also atum, look at how cirtus has acted towards me all game, you are near indefinte that im scum. However now look how cirtus is reacting to me and my vote. Hes acting towards me as if he knows i will flip town. Also look back on how he has been adressing it to me, He keeps acting like he knows im going to flip town. You obviously have not.

    Now lets think, what kind of role would know im town?

    There are 2 possibilites:
    1) seer checks me
    2) cheating or some other means
    3) wolf

    we already know 1 is impossible

    2 could be based of how many games we have played and everything. But look how cirtus has never once really tried to derail or even go to another train. so i find this unlikely, he doesnt even come to really defend me or anything he jsut lets me go all out and blow a fuse and then isolates his vote

    so we are left with 3, hes re-rolled wolf and therfore knows im town.



    as for day 1, its been said sevral times over and i dont really knwo any other way to explain it other then this:

    It was a gambit to draw a night kill and save the seer.

    Take a hard think on it on this setup, i keep saying this but really think, do you think a scum who has one other person would try to draw that much attention with only 2 scums and one PR? Maybe if we had 3 scums, but as 2 no.

    Compare me now to brass and tax, do you see consitency?

    If thats not going to convince you. then i dont know what will.

    I'm highly consider teri to be other scumspect as well based off cirtus/rain interactions

    rain has always had cirtus town for some odd reason while cirtus has not.

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    titus, stop with rubi, seriously i will only consider him as outliar scum.

    but im pretty sure if we lych those 3 we will win (yes i know how scummy that sounds but still)

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    titus, why is cirtus so worried about only me vote? why is he only worried about me?

    do you see where you are faltering?
     
  10. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Maybe because, since you haven't been reading all my posts, I think you're fucking town still ika
     
  11. ika

    ika Temporarily Banhammered

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    titus, cirtus has been overly agressive on many things as well. tell me where any of it comes from a town. you may lack the emotional part, but cirtus agression is not really town motivated. if anything its scum motivate.

    he already locked himself that im town, you have locked that im town, math is being math, atum is starting to understand, if cirtus is willing to move his vote to teir im willing then

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    then cirtus, explain to me why you have a lone vote isolated?

    are you willing to vote teir?
     
  12. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    1) I restarted my poe because I was wrong on maiden.

    2) demon's been coasting this game relative to his strength as a player. I caught part of the witch hunt game where he was oracle/town and he was much more active. I expected him to be active today and that caused me to reconsider my town read on him. I specifically said that d1
     
  13. ika

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    im willing to give you some doubt at this point since your so intent that im town, but you have to prove it to me that your not a wolf atm
     
  14. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Not without reading through the posts again, which I will have time for. I'm on my phone. And if it's my lynch that is the only eligible one, I'd rather have a lynch + info than none considering we throw away a mislynch if we don't lynch.
     
  15. ika

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    cirtus, how come you only have one suspect? who would be his partner?

    if you are so sure im town you should have no trouble working with me on answer these
     
  16. Titus

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    @Rubicon, I was partly through my read. Context made it obvious no pregame with reroll or daychat. You've been corrected on this multiple times by multiple people. Faking dumb doesn't suit you.

    Under my hypo plan, if the real seer got a guilty, they would still straight up clsim.

    @Snowvon, someone defending you doesn't make them town. As scum, I pick one town player to be my beard yhat's hyperactive. The act of scum defending town illogically is whiteknighting. To catch thst, you have to look outside yourself to see if someone defends you or brushes away legitimate scummy acts.
     
  17. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    On top of everything else, it would have been easy as fuck to just make you really mad AND join the easy bandwagon on you at the start of d2. Rather than being slippery. We both know I've gotten away with it once, and I'm almost positive I could pull it off again. Except for, or wait, I'm town
     
  18. Titus

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    Ika, join me on TerRaine and we'll discuss Citrus and Rubicon tomorrow.

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    Ika this is pecisely what I have been telling you.
     
  19. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Honestly I'm having issues with Rubicon because I thought him towny for engaging me for 1.5 hours late day 1. I want to Reread his posts and see how he justified voting you then following your vote onto me.

    Dermon pointed out a strong contradiction by TerRaine, I want to Reread her posts.

    Burk is still null.

    I'm comfortable sloth town, and leaning town on Titus. Plus it makes more sense for town to quit than scum with the amount of pressure she had before quitting.

    Snowvon seems towny for his normal town playstyle, but he's not contributing anything useful. He explained his vote as based on an out of game dream.
     
  20. Titus

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    Ika, I feel you are derp town. That's what I have been saying...
     
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