titus is becoming more and more scummy atm, shes trying to string everything up like brass and tax

 

Ter id most likely a scum lynch, hence the opposition without evidence.

 

THIS is what I meant. This iswhat you haven't address.

 

Nah, in Brass Tax, I sheeped everything that others wanted but for Riley who was a threat, always compromising.

Fine I claim 3rd party.

 

Everything you quoted, I repleid to here:

 

Ika's plan...protect the real seer. If ika's scum, they gain nothing by killing the seer. Ika with his cc can claim a guilty on anyone as needed and burn himself the next day. Ika does gambits like this. Ika also gains information if he sees crumbs and he is good at that.

Ika being scum with Citrus doesn't fly with the end of the day.

Ika Rubi is theorectically posdible but very remote as this is ika's towngame. Ika would like distance Rubi on being lynched.

This also isn't Brass Tax ika.

This is addressed...again.

 

From that post, I think Titus/ika is still the best combination. Titus is sheepishly defending ika and they are feeding off of each other. They probably discussed which people could gain the most discord with an explicit goal of causing a no lynch. They could do whatever and say whatever as long as a no lynch happens. I don't think that ika thinks that he'd actually get the votes for a Titus lynch. He's just spamming names around right now.

 

@Titus: ika's play reads scummy. First off, we've addressed the whole anti-town thing to death, but the fact of the matter is that dressing his play up as "anti-town" is a nice way of calling it scummy. Therefore, while I am entirely capable of comprehending your argument and his as they relate to him using a gambit to draw the NK and protect the seer, I can't ignore the fact that a large body of his posts were scummy, deliberate or not.

Ter, I'll vote for, her D2 responses aren't pinging town for me, tone-wise. Her D1 play to me has the same unoriginal quality as Dermon's based on a light review, some good content (often repeated from others), some empty posts. There were other reasons I found looking through, but honestly I didn't write them down at the time and I don't feel like finding them again, though I'll do so on request.

 

Anyway, this is probably my last post of the day. I'll try to be here for the ned, but more than likely that won't happen.
TerRaine = Town
Citrus = Possible Scum, too early to tell without answers.
Ika = almost guaranteed scum.
Titus = The degree of her arrogance is only matched by her inadequacy to have it. Maybe scum, but I think she's just blind again.

Sigh. Happy mother's day, guys. (You especially, Titus, I believe you're a mom.)

 

Ika as scum
First of all, if ika’s scum, Titus and Burkion almost certainly aren’t. None of the other newbies are either, probably.

and if im not you go look into titus/cirtus, more so titus atm

It’s simple: What was with the Seer claim? As soon as Tomorrow came, there’d be at least questions on his results (might be why he pushed Titus’ plan?).
Basically, if ika is scum, he made that claim with the intent to be lynched D2 (and probably the hope he’d be able to talk us out of it). He would only do that if he felt his partner was reliable enough to handle the game on their own once he was gone, and having them be somewhat townfirmed by his lynch, probably.
That rules out Burkion and Titus: Burkion was MIA most of the Day, and Titus only replaced Ness later on (something ika would have no way of knowing). It probably rules out the newbies because they’re new, why would ika trust them to win the game?

a lot of this confused me but again think, if i am wolf, seer can easily cc me and i either

A) take back my claim
or
B) CC and 1v1

The real seer would out on a true wolf and i would then say "ok"

WHERE IS THE LOGIC BEHIND A WOLF DOIGN THIS?

Why would ika do this this early in the game? Honestly, I could see him doing it as a wild gambit like he always says. He could have just bet everything on going out taking the Seer. Even hoped that he could hide in audacity and claim he was Town trying to protect them. Sounds like ika, tbh.

ok so you agree that its me, now ask yourself, WOULD A WOLF DO THIS?

However, ika would have only hit Lyrium if he knew she was Seer. Unless we can be relatively certain of this, he’s not scum.

Lyrim was town reading me for the most part. I doubt she would of checked me

It all depends on whether he managed to catch her. Ika did say he was Seer-hunting, and it’s possibly he made his claim expecting to see the real Seer react. Lyrium did somehow, he caught it, and he struck.

here you are being biased that im already conf!scum.

Which leads us to the worst thing ika has done in my eyes: He claimed he thought Citrus was seer…and frankly I don’t believe that because he was asked for arguments about it and they were really weak. I think he may actually have thought Lyrium was seer.

I could of subsituted anyone else name there.

If he didn’t know who the Seer was, he’d have hit any random target for no conceivable reason to throw us off, like he did Possum in B&T, unless his partner talked him out of it.

I could not speak with my partners in B&T, I went yolo on it due to modkill. Otherwise im more caculated

Speaking of partners…

Mathblade + ika is very unlikely now that the NK has occurred, given the bit about the newbies.

Snowvon + ika, I wanna say is unlikely, except I keep hearing people like Rubicon and Lyrium say he’s a skilled scum player in IRC, so maybe ika trusted him enough? Rubicon, thoughts?

Citrus + ika and Rubicon + ika are equally as possible in a scum!ika world, and I’d have to do an in-depth analysis of their interactions to see if either is more likely. Someone poke me to do that after some sleep. Along with a case on Citrus, I said to pay closer attention to him.

So, given all of that, yeah – Ika’s more likely than not scum.

and when i flip fuckign town?

Sloth, if you are town, i expect an huge "I'm wrong about you" after this.

You still havent learned that you are wrong and will continue to be in your biased formats

 

LOL She's not a mom.. If I ever get to be an auntie I'd be elated and probably teaching the kid advanced calculus and football at way too young an age and spoiling them out of it.

 

Atum, anti town and scummy are different things entirely. Anti town actions are things such as lying and gambiting designed to get a result. For instance, Citrus voting ika early D2 while thinking ika was town to see who would jump. That is anti town but it generated information.

Ika was being antitiwn but hurt no one as towns do not PR hunt as much.

Vote: TerRaine

You are the tiebreaker Atum.

 

sloth, you will never learn

 

One simple answer is WIFOM. If a scum wouldn't do it the good play is to do it if hiding as scum. However I think you are more complex than that and there probably is a complex strategy to it. This is why I try not to get too deep into meta because my read meta shit piece is broken.

And if you flip town, which I doubt you will, you'd have one from me Ika.

 

Nope. Newly married, less than 2 years but not a mom.

 

Last line is @ika

 

Ika, please do what is in your self interest and vote Ter. Please. :cry:

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Mathblade, ika plays on impulse and emotion. He goes some planning but mostly what feels goid at the time. Meta is good for capabilities but not much mire than that. The meta comments are the first logical things you have said in awhile.

 

I will be expecting a pm...

You still have a lot to learn about me.

I have 2 ways of playing:

1) calcualted (more often as scum or tpr)
2) reckless as shit (more often citizen, or in this case villager)

after i get hammered i will be on irc if anyone is up for games.

Also, i am going to hamemr anyone who goes to l-1. Personaly i rather be todays lynch so everyone can shut up about my plays and everything. Its hurting town more that everyone is specing about me.

 

@ika No....I'm going to keep my vote on you. I don't have a stronger scum read on Titus and flipping off to vote on a slight read on D1 helped a mislynch. I'm not going to help my highest scum read just to save my own ass

I don't know if Titus is a scum....I do know she is more concerned in being right than helping town but that's her lot.

If I am dead then I leave with the suggestion to keep an eye on Titus for this behavior down the line so y'all don't end up with more mislynches. Her answer to what about Snow's informative "it came to me in a dream and Rubi was nice to me" so swayed her vote was in its most basic form "I read more" (very helpful). Ask more of her please?

Also for the above mentioned reasons look closer at Snow? Ask him to contribute content?

I'm out...thanks for all the fish.

 

whatever i quit giving a fuck

vote teir

i still feel like it might eb town but whatever lets just get soemthing done already