Garrett told someone to tell the pilot to keep it low until they were over the gulf. Ward was there at the time.

 

Haha Im the oppoosite... find Skye boring and Ward better.

Fitz was irritating though.

I dont think they will redeem Ward... if they plan on a second series maybe have him live and save them sometime in the next season or something.

If he dies, maybe tell Skye what he found out on his last breath or something.

 

I agree on both counts, but I think Skye is definitely getting better. With Wards hydra revelation, I believe his character for the earlier season is more justified as well.

As for the show itself, I believe it's drastically improved from the first few seasons. Honestly, until Hydra was revealed, I would of called it mediocre at best. I believe what we are seeing now was the goal from the start though. Delaying it until the release of Captain America 2 definitely degraded the quality of the earlier episodes though. In my opinion at least.

 

THe series linked and made references to the latest phase two movies, so do we think they will attempt to link any season 2 episode to Guardians of the galaxcy or even the next avengers movie? It is claimed we might see phil in avenger 2, so his team might get a movie appearance.
The thing is how will they tie in a movie totally in space, Will we see alience from the movie coming to earth or something?

 

Guardians will come out between seasons, chances are if there is going to be a season two there won't be any Guardians references.

 

Show has been renewed for season 2.
http://tvline.com/2014/05/08/abc-renewals-2014-once-upon-a-time-resurrection/

 

More interested in the Agent Carter series coming up.

Howard Stark should at least cameo that, assuming this is Post- Captain America.

 

Watched the first two episodes when the series first started, but really didn't like anyone except Coulson and May. Heard that the season got better by the end, so, decided to give it another chance. Got halfway through episode 3 before I said screw this and just skipped forward to episode 16 or so, and finished the season from there.

There is definitely enjoyable stuff there, although, I still don't really care for anyone except Coulson and May, and maybe Hill, but only because she is a character that I actually know.

Ward is...incredibly dull, and honestly, about the only thing interesting about him is the Hydra stuff and I don't particularly care for his sobstory and hope they are not going for a redemption theme with him. Or, even if they do, at least I hope he goes to prison for life. I know that this doesn't count for much in stuff like this, but he did kill a large number of redshirts.

So, yeah, the collapse of SHIELD and stuff is interesting, am curious and a bit concerned where to go from here, though. Hope the recreation of SHIELD is going to be solid.

 

We know garret had an equal rank to phil, so I wonder if he is the highest ranked shield infiltrator, so most likely key to a whole lot

 

I'll be honest, it went so strange I could see them making a convincing season 2.

In the end when Phil literally blew up the biggest tv show/comic cliché in the history of the world I lost it.

 

Nice little LMD hint.

Turns out May did actually care enough about Ward to be pissed off, kinda annoyed how insecure they made him, but thats probably so he can return in S2.

Furys lines were priceless; "are you telling me all of this is because you misheard my one man speech?"

Coulson - Director of SHIELD?

 

Thought RDJ said he'd do 2 more Avenger movies and the main reason for wanting out is the IM scenes... so they might try and get him in a non-fighting role.

Yeah, seemed everyone stepped their game up because of Jackson being there.

 

That was a damn decent ending.

Hope Fitz comes back for season 2. Hope Ward doesn't.

 

Ward seems to have been replaced anyway.

An episode next season will probably be about his escape or something though.

 

Gotta say, that is how you do a season finale. Wrap up some, but not all, dangling plot threads, lots of action, a few hints for next season, the best one-liners all year, and emotional moments for several characters...

Notes & Feelings:

I was this close to crying when Fitz was telling Simmons there was basically no way both of them would survive.

Clark Gregg's delivery is officially perfect. ("For now, your torture will be internal." "And a bit external." "Yes, that too."... "I know what it does."... "I found it! I told you it was in here!")

I think we can all agree that Samuel L. Jackson owns all the rooms. If he walks into a room, he owns it. That is all there is to it.

Looking forward to more of the Koening clones, or LMDs, or whatever-the-hell-they-ares. (I keep begging the luck-gods that they'll find a way to get him to talk about comic-magicians. It's my favourite bit of his.)

The producers say Brett Dalton is definitely sticking around next year, so I'm guessing Ward is going to spend at least a bit of the next season as a prisoner, but eventually they'll need to take him into the field to get/learn something, and he'll escape.

J. August Richards could and should return... and it would be kind of epic if he could crossover to the Defenders shows when they start next year.

Skye is probably some variation on Kree... she just has no idea how to trigger or control her own abilities. Personally hoping that once her powers (whatever they are) wake up, she'll lose control every time she tries to use them. And meeting daddy will doubtless be much more fun for us than for her.

Would like to see an extended recovery for Fitz... he's my favourite character, and his emotional development has felt like the most natural of all of them (to me, at least) and seeing how he deals with the fallout of everything that happened and everything that was said will be fascinating.

Took half as much time to warm up to Trip as I did to Ward, so looking forward to seeing how he develops.

Rebuilding SHIELD should take up most of their time next year; there will doubtless be tracking down dangerous escapees, including Blizzard and Graviton, as well as occasionally recruiting new agents and assets, not to mention the on-going difficulties with hiding from other authorities and reclaiming or destroying Hydra-controlled outposts.

In short, the awkward introduction chapters are over, now we can get to the good, meaty, action-y middle part.

 

Fitz was great, so he'd better not be out for good. Unless they're planning to do a season long Fitz/Simmons/Trip love triangle, in which case I hope he dies off screen.

Who ended up with the Gravitonium? Quinn? No indication that Hall is still stuck inside it in this episode, but I'd like to see him in season 2. There's a lack of bad guys now that Deathlok is free.

Speaking of which, did Deathlok really sneak off without anyone defusing that bomb in his eye? Not the smartest idea anyone has ever had.

Skye's daddy appears to be melting. My money is still totally on Inhuman, but who knows. Maybe he's a Vampire and this'll tie into the Doctor Strange movie instead.

I hope there's a whole goddamn army of Koenig brothers/robot duplicates/clones and he just keeps popping up in every single SHIELD base they find.

Garret and Coulson have apparently never heard of pens. It's some sweet artwork and it's presumably coming from the GH-325, but what the hell did it mean? Was it alien text? An engineering schematic? Space coordinates? A chemical formula? Is there anyone who's willing to bet that Skye isn't the who eventually decodes it?

Yup. I'm not sure if he took over directly from Fury though, there's been a lot of people in charge of SHIELD. Aside from Fury and Stark, I can remember Sharon Carter, Carol Danvers, Maria Hill, General Ross, Steve Rogers and Norman Osborn all being in charge at one point.