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AYAW #2 - Return to Basics

Discussion in 'Little Italy' started by Riley, May 4, 2014.

  1. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Hi Delphine.

    I wanted to bounce that reasoning off you to see what you think about it. Do you disagree that it clears him, and why?

    I've been watching Monochrome's profile and knew she was still in the sorting hat. mbond99 has no excuse.
     
  2. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    The last sentence I like and makes sense. I'll keep an eye on them for now, but are still pretty likely town. I'm getting a pretty good townread on Delphine and well obviously nothing on mbond, but will give him a town nudge due to the more scummy activity of other players.
     
  3. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Disagree, since you could argue the other way just as easily (I would work twice as hard if I were on my own here) and there are slots who could be interpreted as crumbling or don't fit the picture (Citrus, Snowvon, whichever of Dermon/burkion isn't your slot).
     
  4. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    Is this a possible tell?

    You don't have a mentor and you should be working through the game alone with only the board to help you? So why aren't you working twice as hard?

    Please clarify.
     
  5. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    This is a good sign.
     
  6. Sloth

    Sloth Professor DLP Supporter

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    Hungry for apples?
    Kudos for going the extra mile on that one. XD

    As for Citrus, why would it clear him? Let's look at it from a scum mentality: Bringing up that scum have no pregame chat would make the scum seem more powerless than they are, which is smart to do in a game where odds are already against you.
    Once caught on your lie, you publicly ask the mod to prove you wrong. And he does. After a mishap.
    This could happen to Town too, except I'm not sure Town would have brought it up at all, forcing it into the conversation as it was.

    ...Hm. Actually, give me a sec, I think I found something.

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    Oh, and your reads?
     
  7. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    No, I mean if I were the only active person on a scum team versus having an active partner to back me up.
     
  8. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    The explanation makes sense but that post is still stilted to say the least.

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    Looking forward to what you found Sloth.
     
  9. Delphine

    Delphine First Year

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    Citrus, what motivation was there for experienced wolves to shoot a null slot (re: post 1255)? Does anyone else think this is a weird conclusion to draw?

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    Did Terr ever actually respond to Rubicon's 830 and the surrounding discussion? Can't find it if so~
     
  10. Rubicon

    Rubicon High Inquisitor DLP Supporter

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    Sloth: Both scum within Citrus, Snowvon, mbond99, Monochrome. Tentatively liking Monochrome so far.
     
  11. MathBlade

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    I do and don't find it weird. It depends on context. If scum wasn't suspected of being scum because of current town plays, it'd be a good scum play to kill a null read and continue to let town sink themselves. However Citrus isn't really posting a read justifying that null kill or a readwall that justifies it.


    https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showpost.php?p=722588&postcount=830
    I think 830 was directed towards Ika's fake claim right? What were you expecting Ter to respond to?

    As an FYI when referring to posts in the prior game it's a good practice to quote them or to put a link like I do.

    https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showpost.php?p=722588&postcount=POSTNUMBER

    You can borrow mine, just replace POSTNUMBER with the post number. You'd also have to replace the 722588 every game as well.
     
  12. Delphine

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    uhhh, I meant 816. https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showpost.php?p=722547&postcount=816. My bad.

    Something I didn't like from Atum on D1 is that in #485 he thinks ika's possible wolf (or at least antitown) for tunneling on Maiden and Snowvon as wolfreads and not questioning a variety of people, but in #602 says that [if] "Maiden flips town, my next suspect for scum would be ika, for the reasons I've already said and for changing his suspicions from Snow to Maiden really quick." Doesn't add up to me; can you explain?

    I also think it's weird that he posted a Maiden case after the flip - I get that Sloth asked him for a case, but I'd find it surprising if he'd bother being that detailed once it's already Twilight as town.

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    Sloth: I think you vastly overestimate my ability to figure out what the heck you're getting at (I'm frankly not familiar enough w/ the thread to know your past stances on him, etc.), but I'm willing to wait for your elaboration.
     
  13. MathBlade

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    @Delphine: It happens, thanks for correcting it, and I think it was addressed here:
    https://forums.darklordpotter.net/showpost.php?p=722803&postcount=909

    That post is a quote countering Sloth bringing it up.

    @Atum: Please answer the question above.
     
  14. Delphine

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    I wanna know what TR thinks of Rubicon mentioning that and then writing her off.
     
  15. MathBlade

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    Ohhhhhhhh now I got ya!
     
  16. Citrus

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    If the wolves were in a comfortable position, it would be a way to not give anything away reads wise with the kill. Plus knowing the replacement was incoming

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    @Sloth

    Dermon was in a witch hunt game a few months back, as I already said. He was pretty strong in that game (and flipped town) and it makes be think he's holding back this game (also such little activity/scum hunting today)

    @Everyone

    If you don't understand one of my posts, ask me and I can explain my reasoning/motivation.

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    This is scummy as fuck, but I thought he was testing TerRaine and so was giving him the chance to do so without calling the action out. If he asked me to un-redact I would have explained, and the fact that he didn't made me believe he wanted to test without interruption

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    The no lynch stuff sounded like scum realizing he was fucked by him, considering he wanted a lynch as much as I did. But wanted to see Titus's response to that hence redacted, same as with the other post
     
  17. MathBlade

    MathBlade First Year

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    Citrus please explain why you are talking about Dermon when Dermon was replaced out?
     
  18. Citrus

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    I really like MonoChrome's posts so far and am thinking town. Also hi Delphine :D

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    That explains it. Brb I don't know who replaced who, I thought monochrome is the new burk

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    Ugh can someone just give me the current player list with who replaced who?

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    For scum:
    Current thought is {Rubicon + TerRaine} or {Rubicon + Atum}
    with an outside chance of {Snowvon} in the mix

    And ignoring mbond because he's completely null (replaced in for burk right?)
     
  19. Delphine

    Delphine First Year

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    As a note, I've noticed I struggle with reading people who buddy me/give town cases on me and would generally prefer it if people just didn't mention me if they think I'm town.

    Live List
    1. Monochrome - replaced Burkion
    2. TerRaine
    3. Sloth
    4. Citrus
    5. Atum
    6. Maiden Dead Villager
    7. Ika Dead Villager
    8. Lyrium Dead Seer
    9. Rubicon
    10. MathBlade
    11. Titus Dead Villager
    12. Snowvon
    13. mbond98 - replaced Dermon
     
  20. Citrus

    Citrus First Year

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    Votecount:

    (with 11 players alive, 6 votes are needed to lynch)

    ika (6) - MathBlade, Sloth, TerRaine, Atum, SnowVon, ika
    Citrus (1) - Rubicon
    Rubicon (1) - Citrus
    TerRaine (2) - Dermon, Titus

    Not Voting: Burkion
    Switched: Ika had a vote on me before self-hammering
    Note: For all intents and purposes, Snowvon hammered Ika

    ---------- Post automerged at 02:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:40 PM ----------

    Updated vote count:

    Maiden (7) – Citrus, ika, Snowvon, MathBlade, Lyrium, TerRaine, Maiden
    Snowvon (2) – Sloth, Maiden, Dermon
    TerRaine (1) – LochNess

    Not voting (2) - Burkion, Atum, Rubicon

    13 alive, 7 to lynch.
     
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