Citrus, I need somebody sane to talk to me about KaiDASH
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You townread Kai strongly, so can you tel me why I am wrong?

 

I think the main change is Luckylee voted for himself like a ****.

And I unvoted. Still want either KaiDash or Fontisian.

We have like 30+ hours I guess.

 

1) role hints are prob what i fished out at the time, i never wrote them down. if i go back i bet i can find them again but im not spending time doing so now im too bad in a mood to do so.

2) i haven't even really looked at your huge ass walls of posts. if i go back and read i bet i could figure it out.

3) more or less. right now im in a state of where im just not even giving shit about looking into stuff atm. I will prob do a look-over during night and have everything posted for day tommmorw. Right now im not in rolefhishing/hunting mood.

Anything i stated at that time was merly my thoughts at that time, and are true. If you link me to the post i can clarify them to best of ability. but as i already stated, im not in a mood of doign big-ass project/hauls

 

Right. That can happen regardless (of this GD claim plan) though, and I think you're overblowing it by acting like it's a near guaranteed mislynch - it isn't. And it puts the claimed GD to the top of the scum list if the game isn't over when it 'should' be.

And the GD posts their info asap after day start, not selectively timing it for when it would suit them.

And it requires they know someone's role while none of the other living town players do.

 

I also got Polysemous's vote for Kai, so yay.

 

Backhanded insult in 941 noted blab.

Wait does the GD get alignment? I don't see how the GD jumps up if they are accurately reporting roles?

 

titus: its only holds true if font is town really unless if shes trying an early attack on scum buddie. really thats what it feels like to me. i have too much

Mood: irc

 

GD gets role and faction information ie

sleb the village peasant gravedigger

or

sabrina the witch gravedigger

or

pope the village clergy priest

 

Yeah, I am sorry.

Titus I just didn't understand your logic in your response to me. You didn't adress any of my points specifically, and all I got is that you like KaiDASH because he says the same thing about fonti as you which is just way too simplistic for you. And I don't even know how to respond to that.

I have an easier time understanding Citrus.

I don't think you are dumb or insane (and I am sorry for implying it), I just have a much harder time reconstructing your thoughts.

 

Wow laptop died and phone at 5%. I'll be back in a few hours and look through what you posted blab

 

Oh ok. I didn't realize alignment was noted. That does make GD a fair amount more powerful.

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Then do it point by point because I feel like I dismantled your argument and that you're confbiasing Kai.

 

It would if that had actually happened?

I would like to stab ika the pants dropper who doesn't understand his role with a rusty spoon.

Feeling a lot better about Polysemous.

I'd put money on a Kai/Luckylee/Rubicon team (not a lot of money, but still, money). Fourth is probably Citrus.

Lyrium: We're not massclaiming now. Wait for some priest checks.

I kind of follow. Minimize risk, Kai. Oh, and I'm not telling you everything. If it feels like th3, then give some other scumreads.

1. Von feels town. Like, I don't know how to describe it, but he just is.
2.blab's being proactive. I think the fact that he's acknowledged his barns and defenses of me and is openly referencing his attempts at manipulation from B&T speaks well for him.
3. Understanding a replacement mentality has nothing to do with civility because it is a choice players make in game.

I know. That's why you're on my scumteam (well, besides poe).

 

Citrus, I can very much assure you that I am but a humble villager. (^^)b

 

@Citrus: You were in the game Werewolf, you saw how Sloth played as scum. Sloth's sig right now is a pretty good indicator of how effective/successful a good scum can be by 'scum hunting.'

Also, KaiDASH, how do you get the GD power of determining alignment from:

Looking through the rules on the Signups thread, the definition of 'card' seems mildly ambiguous, so mod clarification would be preferable here.

 

Atum, if you read the GD QT's from WH3, you can see that the GD learned the role + alignment of people who died.

 

Good to know, thanks Snowvon.

 

In IRL WH, you get two cards on the deal: Your role card (gravedigger, priest, etc) and your faction card (peasant, witch, clergy, etc).

Gravedigger learns both.

 

Kai, stop dodging. If I'm scum, who are my scummates. If I'm town, who's scum?

 

I don't understand your first paragraph.
In your second one, you are saying that fontisian didn't push hard enough?
My response is similar to what I said to Kai:

I understand your third paragraph, and that's fine, but doesn't really affect my arguments about Kai.

I believe Kai has been deliberately misframing his argument (see original post). You didn't really respond to the stuff where I tell you why I believe that, you only tell me that you agree with Kai that font should have pushed harder.


To say it in different words, a lot of your scumread on fonti (which is basically your whole townread on Kai, as far as I can see) is that fontisian didn't push her "gambit " about the pregame gd claim hard enough. But a pregame claim is basically a D1 claim, except that it incovieniences scum more (has a chance to catch dumb scum). Basically I didn't see fontisian claiming she did run a huge gambit, I see her pushing for the slightly better of two options. I don't actually believe she believed to catch scum by it (which is maybe where you see the disconnect?), I believe she pushed for pregame gd claim because you just push for the better of 2 options.

And you didn't address any of my points of how KaiDASH is dishonest (for example the point that he is scumreading fontisian for wording that fontisian borrowed from you)

 

Working on it, fear not.